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dapperz fun pub
September 25, 2011, 11:49am
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Sacking Woods set us back a year. Last year was about par for a first season in this division. This summer Woods would have strengthened the side and we could have had a real go for the summit. Unfortunately we got rid of a lot of the squad and had to start again with another set of players. Sadly now Fenty's money has gone so these guys will probably never be able to show what they could have achieved in a second year with a decent playing budget.


connell wanted out bore wanted out atkinson wanted out peacock wanted out all under woods leadership
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September 25, 2011, 11:51am

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I think it takes a while to build a team capable of winning this league Dean Saunders had a poor first season at Wrexham and they have learned the lessons and have performed well last season and this so far so I really think we ought to show patience at this stage and hopefully a new chairman will be found who can run the club properly and save us from the unthinkable administration until we have got things right on the pitch which I believe we will if H&S get given the time to do it.
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September 25, 2011, 12:27pm
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connell wanted out bore wanted out atkinson wanted out peacock wanted out all under woods leadership


The only one I think we miss is Connell and he clearly still wanted out under H&S so not something that could just be leveled at Woods...


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September 25, 2011, 12:49pm

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Everything the chuckle brothers have said they wanted to change and needed to improve they haven't...I don't see any improvements personally and info believe we have gone backwards but I also believe getting rid of shouty and shorty wouldn't be the right answer either...I didnt want them and in all honesty I don't know manyfans that did but we have to support them no matter what...were they another cheap option? Who knows and only time will tell if they work for us...I don't think they will, whilst we never really looke promotion candidates but we were still sat in 8th or 9th just outside the playoffs, this season we look even miles off of that...


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September 25, 2011, 1:03pm
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I'm not sure we're going backwards, but we certainly aren't going forwards.  We have replaced average players with similar, eg. is Pearson any better than Garner or Watt?  Is McKeown any better than Arthur?  And I know you won't like this, but are Disley, Church, Artus really any better than Leary, Hudson, et al?
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September 25, 2011, 1:28pm

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I'm not sure we're going backwards, but we certainly aren't going forwards.  We have replaced average players with similar, eg. is Pearson any better than Garner or Watt?  Is McKeown any better than Arthur?  And I know you won't like this, but are Disley, Church, Artus really any better than Leary, Hudson, et al?


For me the jurys still out regarding Pearson and Artus, I think Garners a much better defender than Pearson who turns like a battleship and I can`t see what Artus brings to the table
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September 25, 2011, 2:01pm

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To be fair, they haven't replaced Garner. He's injured.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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To be fair, they haven't replaced Garner. He's injured.


Fair point, I think with current staff, Kempson and Garner are the best pair, if pace is needed then perhaps we should give I'anson a number of games
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Unfortunately, I eventually had to come to the conclusion last season that Woods just didn't have a clue about what was necessary to compete in this division. Despite this, I don't think it was the right decision to sack him during the season. Much better to wait until the end of the year, then look for a new manager during the close season.

I think the team we have this season is generally better than that from last season, though there isn't a huge amount in it. Obviously, lacking a player like Connell who single-handedly won us games last season makes us seem worse than we actually are.

I'm hopeful that we can knuckle-down and drag our way up the table during the rest of this season but it won't necessarily be pretty. Most of the new signings are capable enough (though none are exactly world-beaters), but I think that Elding and Artus are both probably not the sort of players we required. Artus reminds me of Sweeney - lots of skill, but too keen to show it and therefore never moves the ball on fast enough. Often caught in possession as well. Elding has had a few very good goalscoring seasons during his career. However, the last was a few years ago and he's not exactly been tearing up any trees in recent seasons. The new Adam Proudlock, perhaps!
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September 25, 2011, 3:01pm

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Artus reminds me of Sweeney - lots of skill, but too keen to show it and therefore never moves the ball on fast enough.


No doubt the opposition will be equally quick to work out that he can't use his right foot! At least Artus puts some effort in though.


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