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The chairman's jumped ship.
We're in 17th place.
7 points from the playoffs.
4 points from the relegation places.
A -7 goal difference.
Is it time to panic?
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| September 24, 2011, 7:18pm |
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The chairman's jumped ship.
We're in 17th place.
7 points from the playoffs.
4 points from the relegation places.
A -7 goal difference.
Is it time to panic?
Gotta be positive, the past is past and if we dont lift the negativity and realise we are not in the championship anymore and are now a long ball conference side that is not very good, we will never get out of the conference. |
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| September 24, 2011, 10:09pm |
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Out of this years and last years team my best would be this
Mckeown
Wood Atkinson Kempson Green
Coulson Disley Church Eagle
Hearn Connell
So in my opinion we've only lost 2 good players from last year and gained 5 so I think we've got a better squad than last year but we're just lacking a goalscorer, but now Hearns got his first, hopefully he can push on and get more.
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| September 24, 2011, 10:27pm |
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The chairman's jumped ship.
We're in 17th place.
7 points from the playoffs.
4 points from the relegation places.
A -7 goal difference.
Is it time to panic?
[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!Bmu()GQ!mk~$(KGrHqEOKiEEtkl9YNWOBLgrCNn2Nw~~_35.JPG[/img] Definately time to panic. The club is going nowhere. while we have a lot of effort we don't have very much quality. We don't seem to have a player who can take a game by the scruff of the neck no-one to command the defence, no-one to boss the midfield and no-one you'd back to take any chance which comes their way. As well as all this we have the doubt over who will be in charge of the club after christmas and longer term if we'll even have a club. |
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| 80sglory |
| September 24, 2011, 10:37pm |
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No need to panic - we're slowly getting better. Relegation ? No chance ! Just as long as the managers learn from it, we'll be a stronger team and wouldn't at all be suprised if we hammer Alfreton on Saturday. Tell me you're panicking then ! |
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| bobbyturtle |
| September 24, 2011, 10:50pm |
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the halmarks of another depressing season for town fans  |
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| jackfoster |
| September 24, 2011, 10:52pm |
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It's a terrible situation: 17th place and the prospect of having to sell players if there is no further funding, i'm afraid we are all going to have to lower our expectations, just surviving in this league will be success for gtfc, forget the play offs, it's not going to happen...
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| Happy_Mariner |
| September 25, 2011, 9:35am |
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It's a terrible situation: 17th place and the prospect of having to sell players if there is no further funding, i'm afraid we are all going to have to lower our expectations, just surviving in this league will be success for gtfc, forget the play offs, it's not going to happen...
I think we're a long way off hoping to survive in this league but also seem to be a way off the teams at the top. That equates to mid-table obscurity. |
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| September 25, 2011, 9:58am |
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It's definitely not time to panic. We're only 10 points off 1st. I'm not saying we're going to win the league but that just shows how close this division is this season and that anyone can beat anyone. Town are showing signs of form (it sounded like 3-1 flattered Wrexham from the radio commentary), all our strikers are off the mark now and our confidence is growing. There's over 30 games to go, for once, let's have som relative patience.
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| September 25, 2011, 10:09am |
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Sorry, patience is great and i agree is needed at times, but the exact same comments were made last year 'only X points off the play-offs, plenty of time' etc and it didn't happen.
We have to face the prospect that we are again unlikely to make the play-offs, think the best we can hope for is mid table obscurity and hopefully sort out the board room lunacy, with the aim of going for it next year - some will disagree, but in my opinion this season has already gone.
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| September 25, 2011, 10:17am |
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I have to disagree that the season is already gone. That's a ludicrous statement. GTFC as a club has to give a manager more than 18 months. We've gone through 10 in 10 years - it is ridiculous. Success doesn't come instantly and we have to let somebody build a squad, a team, a playing philosophy etc if we want success on the field.
I think that there has been a massive overreaction to the board room on goings as well. MP and JF have both said the club is ok until at least the new year and MP is on the hunt for a chairman.
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Sorry, patience is great and i agree is needed at times, but the exact same comments were made last year 'only X points off the play-offs, plenty of time' etc and it didn't happen.
We have to face the prospect that we are again unlikely to make the play-offs, think the best we can hope for is mid table obscurity and hopefully sort out the board room lunacy, with the aim of going for it next year - some will disagree, but in my opinion this season has already gone.
I think you are probably right. The average points for the top team is almost always 2 per game. To get up to that standard, we would have to win 10 games in a row while the top team plods on at their average. If anyone really thinks that will happen, they are away with the fairies. Maybe if we got rid of this mindset of wanting to gain promotion each season and just watched the games, there would be no problem. For me personally, the real GTFC died at Burton and I haven't really come to terms with that.  |
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| September 25, 2011, 10:23am |
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I think you are probably right. The average points for the top team is almost always 2 per game. To get up to that standard, we would have to win 10 games in a row while the top team plods on at their average. If anyone really thinks that will happen, they are away with the fairies. Maybe if we got rid of this mindset of wanting to gain promotion each season and just watched the games, there would be no problem. For me personally, the real GTFC died at Burton and I haven't really come to terms with that.
Spot on and that is exactly what i am doing.I never expected us to go up this year.Hoped for it yes. I am going to games and enjoying them for the first time in an age as there has been some good,entertaining stuff at BP and my expectations are just to see some improvement as the season progresses and some squad tinkering at the end of the season. It has taken Wrexham a while to get to where they are and they started to click last year. |
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| September 25, 2011, 10:31am |
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I have to disagree that the season is already gone. That's a ludicrous statement. GTFC as a club has to give a manager more than 18 months. We've gone through 10 in 10 years - it is ridiculous. Success doesn't come instantly and we have to let somebody build a squad, a team, a playing philosophy etc if we want success on the field.
I think that there has been a massive overreaction to the board room on goings as well. MP and JF have both said the club is ok until at least the new year and MP is on the hunt for a chairman.
Paris i fail to see what is 'Ludicrous' about it, of course there are plenty of games left etc, etc but as STB says, do we really have the team to put together an unbeaten run of say 15 games, which is exactly what we would need to do to get ourselves toward the top? a realist would say no, we have already lost 6 games from 10, have a moderate goalscoring record and an inability to keep a clean sheet, not really the record of a side about to go on such a run. True there are some improvements to the team in certain areas, but by the same token other areas appear weaker - this to me means a side probably about on a par with last seasons side, which finished 11th, as far as i am aware you do not get in the play-offs finishing 11th! Nothing wrong with optimism, but we GTFC have had that for years now and have constantly been dissappointed. Realism id a word noone particularly wants to hear, but realism is needed - i hope i am proved wrong and would be happy to be so, but i doubt it. |
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| September 25, 2011, 10:37am |
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Paris i fail to see what is 'Ludicrous' about it, of course there are plenty of games left etc, etc but as STB says, do we really have the team to put together an unbeaten run of say 15 games, which is exactly what we would need to do to get ourselves toward the top? a realist would say no, we have already lost 6 games from 10, have a moderate goalscoring record and an inability to keep a clean sheet, not really the record of a side about to go on such a run. True there are some improvements to the team in certain areas, but by the same token other areas appear weaker - this to me means a side probably about on a par with last seasons side, which finished 11th, as far as i am aware you do not get in the play-offs finishing 11th!
Nothing wrong with optimism, but we GTFC have had that for years now and have constantly been dissappointed.
Realism id a word noone particularly wants to hear, but realism is needed - i hope i am proved wrong and would be happy to be so, but i doubt it.
Correction - 11 games - apologies.
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It is not realistic to write off our play off chances in September. Yes, we could be higher up the table and have won a lot more games but as things stand we still have a chance and we maybe just our luck to change. Take yesterday for example, at 0-1 we had two goals disallowed for offside. On another day, they both go in an count because you get the rub of the green. People talk like we get outplayed every game. This is clearly not the case. I appreciate people's frustrations but the doom and gloom that surrounds BP is tiring. We're a Conference team who are still a good bet for the play-offs. Get over it.
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| September 25, 2011, 10:41am |
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I think you are probably right. The average points for the top team is almost always 2 per game. To get up to that standard, we would have to win 10 games in a row while the top team plods on at their average. If anyone really thinks that will happen, they are away with the fairies. Maybe if we got rid of this mindset of wanting to gain promotion each season and just watched the games, there would be no problem. For me personally, the real GTFC died at Burton and I haven't really come to terms with that.
I know what you mean but GTFC didn't die on that day itself.....the six months prior to that had seen us in terminal decline and that afternoon when we finally lost our league status was imho more or less the same as turning off the plug of the life support machine. We were technically no longer a league club from well before Christmas when we were on that record breaking run of not being able to win and from game to game, "life" / our league status was being sucked out of us |
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I think you are probably right. The average points for the top team is almost always 2 per game. To get up to that standard, we would have to win 10 games in a row while the top team plods on at their average. If anyone really thinks that will happen, they are away with the fairies. Maybe if we got rid of this mindset of wanting to gain promotion each season and just watched the games, there would be no problem. For me personally, the real GTFC died at Burton and I haven't really come to terms with that.
the club died when the caretaker in charge who couldnt win a game was given the job he didnt really want,however i still think we can be brought back from the dead it took oxford 4 goes |
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It is not realistic to write off our play off chances in September. Yes, we could be higher up the table and have won a lot more games but as things stand we still have a chance and we maybe just our luck to change. Take yesterday for example, at 0-1 we had two goals disallowed for offside. On another day, they both go in an count because you get the rub of the green. People talk like we get outplayed every game. This is clearly not the case. I appreciate people's frustrations but the doom and gloom that surrounds BP is tiring. We're a Conference team who are still a good bet for the play-offs. Get over it.
'Get over' what? I am a GTFC supporter for 4 decades, seen good times and bad, desperately want the best for the club, but happen to feel we aren't good enough to obtain a place in the play-offs, my opinion, which i am entitled to and i feel many will agree with. To say 'Get over it' suggests i WANT us to stay where we are - nothing is further from the truth, tbh i find that fairly insulting, so how about chosing your words appropriately? |
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'Get over' what? I am a GTFC supporter for 4 decades, seen good times and bad, desperately want
the best for the club, but happen to feel we aren't good enough to obtain a place in the play-offs, my opinion, which i am entitled to and i feel many will agree with.
To say 'Get over it' suggests i WANT us to stay where we are - nothing is further from the truth, tbh i find that fairly insulting, so how about chosing your words appropriately?
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The get over it wasn't directed at you personally. It was more for the people just coming on here talking with expectations and demands of a League club which we no longer are. It wasn't a suggestion that we have a desire to stay put, more a required recognition of the state of affairs for some quarters. I'm sorry you were insulted - in all fairness it was difficult to predict that from this side of the computer screen.
Oh, and Dapperz, je ne suis pas francais.
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The get over it wasn't directed at you personally. It was more for the people just coming on here talking with expectations and demands of a League club which we no longer are. It wasn't a suggestion that we have a desire to stay put, more a required recognition of the state of affairs for some quarters. I'm sorry you were insulted - in all fairness it was difficult to predict that from this side of the computer screen.
Oh, and Dapperz, je ne suis pas francais.
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The get over it wasn't directed at you personally. It was more for the people just coming on here talking with expectations and demands of a League club which we no longer are. It wasn't a suggestion that we have a desire to stay put, more a required recognition of the state of affairs for some quarters. I'm sorry you were insulted - in all fairness it was difficult to predict that from this side of the computer screen.
Oh, and Dapperz, je ne suis pas francais.
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It's not time to panic imo, just time to lower our expectations.
We're not going to be challenging this year I don't think. It's all about next season.
Wrexham are a good side but it's taken them a while to get there. But our team isn't good enough yet to be a contender, it needs building on (and not fecking dismantling).
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It's not time to panic imo, just time to lower our expectations.
We're not going to be challenging this year I don't think. It's all about next season.
Wrexham are a good side but it's taken them a while to get there. But our team isn't good enough yet to be a contender, it needs building on (and not fecking dismantling).
Quite agree. Give these guys two whole years minimum. The players we have are mostly young and should improve in a settled side. If the financial problems, ironically the one thing we haven't had to worry about during our long slide, manage to sort themselves out, then wiith a less trigger happy board we may stand a chance of turning the corner. |
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aslong as we finish around 5-11th i'll be happy! its rob and pauls first season at this level, and there not doing such a bad job! next season is the one!
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