Questions for Fenty and Parker

As fans, feel we need to think carefully about what we'd ike to know and how it might help resove any stand off or stalemate.

So ask your question and anyone else can presume the role of Parker or Fenty and fire back !  

If no-one can answer with any real confidence then it may pass the test - then maybe we can consider sending them all to RH and request they enter in a "Fenty and Parker Q&A" !

I'll start.....

Question for Parker:

"You have said Mr Fenty needs to make his position clear in regards to his long term funding of the club.
Why do you say this when you are not willing to make your similar long term intentions clear and what do you suggest might be the answer to a situation where neither man is prepared to provide any assurances for GTFC's long term funding before the other reveals his intentions ?"

Question for Parker or Fenty:

"Whilst you are not making any guarantees at the current time over several things in the future, why have you chosen to not rule any of them them out ?"

For Fenty- Why have you not written your loans off, will you want your loans paying back if mike parker takes control of the club?

Why do you keep aiming blame at the fans and negativity for the clubs plight?

Why will you not talk to the press, is it because you have something to hide?

Have you caused this fracas so you can escape with the money you have put in?

Why are you disclosing personal correspondance through the clubs website now you are no longer chairman?

Will you step down from the board and allow Mike Parker to bring new blood in without calling your loans in?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Why will you not talk to the press, is it because you have something to hide?

I have come on the programme specifically to answers your questions.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Why do you keep aiming blame at the fans and negativity for the clubs plight?

I don't believe I have.
I made some previous comments regarding the negativity of minor sections of support that I believe may have targeted playing staff or added to what I perceive to be an air of negativity at Blundell Park that made a contribution to a greater or lesser extent in the clubs failures on the pitch.
However in general I do not blame and pay tribute to the overwhelming majority of our loyal supporters who continue to do the club proud. I also believe they would wholeheartedly agree with my comments.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Have you caused this fracas so you can escape with the money you have put in?

Certainly not.
I've been crystal clear about my reasons for my actions and why I stepped down.
As far as money is concerned, one of main concerns for the future is the long-term funding of the football club and feel it is only right that these issues need to be addressed.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Why are you disclosing personal correspondance through the clubs website now you are no longer chairman?

Because I see no reason why I shouldn't ? [i.e. please ask a better question ?]

Quoted from headingly_mariner

For Fenty- Why have you not written your loans off, will you want your loans paying back if mike parker takes control of the club?

[Good question - can't answer that one !]

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Will you step down from the board and allow Mike Parker to bring new blood in without calling your loans in?

[loans see above]

I have made it perfectly clear that if Mike wants to rejoin the board as chair then I would support him 100%.
As for whether he wishes to do that or "bring in new blood", that is a question only Mike can answer.

!) Why are you both c*nts

2) Do you consider, irrespective of any financial input, that either of you is fit to have anything to do with running Grimsby Town PLC

3) Will either of you please make me an offer for my shares

80s is Fenty!!! 80s out!!!!  

Quoted from Ipswin

!) Why are you both c*nts

I knew this would happen  
People just want another chance to start slagging people off...

If you've got nothing constructive to add about how we can get the answers we need to resolve it, please don't bother ?

Quoted from siy2k5

80s is Fenty!!! 80s out!!!!  

Dale, the playoffs are very much a possibility !  

Questions to MP :

1 - Why , if you have no interest in being a Director  did you originally join as a Director ?

2 - Why , if you have no desire to be the Chairman did you originally hold the post of joint Chairman with JF ?

Where do you both think the Club will be in one and two years time?

Playing wise, League position and financially?

If the Club is facing financial meltdown during the next 2 years will you put more funding in to save it?  What is the limit of your financial provision?  

MP:  What qualities do you look for in a new Chairman?  (Besides deep pockets, good judgement and the ability to pick a good manager)?

Quoted from rancido

Questions to MP :

1 - Why , if you have no interest in being a Director  did you originally join as a Director ?

2 - Why , if you have no desire to be the Chairman did you originally hold the post of joint Chairman with JF ?

He could go with his personal cirumstances changing since then  - but then why hasn't he ruled out ever becoming chair in the future ?
Because his circumstances might change back again ?
If you can think of a question which combines both or doesn't allow him to get off the hook, you've cracked it !  

[quote=355]For Fenty- Why have you not written your loans off, will you want your loans paying back if mike parker takes control of the club?
Why should I write them off maybe there is something big on the horizon, like a ground announcement which i have worked on for a long time now. I am hardly going to gift my loans to the club for Parkers benefit am I?

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Where do you both think the Club will be in one and two years time?

Playing wise, League position and financially?

Standard answer about hope of promotion, fans coming back, securing long term funding....

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

If the Club is facing financial meltdown during the next 2 years will you put more funding in to save it?  
What is the limit of your financial provision?

Well Remember Fenty said:
"Mr Parker clearly controls the Club with his shareholding. While this situation continues and control sits outside the board room, I do not suspect anyone will be willing to provide money to meet losses. Would anyone with any sense really expect them to?"

Parker - yep good ones unless anyone can guess ?

Would be interesting to see if Parker makes any comment about GTFC being loss-free.
At the end of the day, he doesn't need to say anything - he can say "I have made my position clear blah blah" so do we need questions that are gonna press him as to WHY he won't say anything and what might be stopping him ?

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

MP:  What qualities do you look for in a new Chairman?  (Besides deep pockets, good judgement and the ability to pick a good manager)?

Fair enough - are you getting at something ?

My idea wasn't really to have a "fans forum", more about stopping the waffle and getting them to resolve the standoff.

This thread is bizarre.

A question and answer session without the two protagonists.

It's not a question and answer session.

It's about thinking of questions for Fenty or Parker (that aren't dodgable) we might be able to send to RH to resolve the standoff.

If you think of any questions, feel free to add.

Q to JF - why don't you want to increase or even match MP shareholding full well knowing you would be the major shareholder is this a way out for you?

Q to MP - what interest do you have in GTFC if your not going to fund the club anymore and don't want to be chairman if your intentions are to help GTFC clearly not, explain?

Q to MP - is the main reason why you left the board because you felt it to be unfair that each directors vote is equal regardless on how much you have invested into the club surely you knew this before committing ?

Q to JF - will GTFC be here next season ?

Quoted from 1600

It's not a question and answer session.

It's about thinking of questions for Fenty or Parker (that aren't dodgable) we might be able to send to RH to resolve the standoff.

If you think of any questions, feel free to add.

My question would be "why are you answering questions in one post as if you are JF"?

Like i said,bizarre.

Quoted from Meza

Q to JF - why don't you want to increase or even match MP shareholding full well knowing you would be the major shareholder is this a way out for you?

Fenty said:
"Assuming I acquired the same number of shares which was never discussed, control would still remain outside of the board room. Mr Parker suggested in the interview that I could equate, this does not solve the problem.

Of course, as Fenty admits, it was the case as soon as Parker left the board !

My question to JF would be:
"As control sat outside the boardroom after Mike Parker left, why has it taken 6 months for you to raise the issue ?"

Unsure if it helps or hinders.  

Quoted from Meza

Q to MP - what interest do you have in GTFC if your not going to fund the club anymore and don't want to be chairman

I've been a fan for several years so if I decide to not fund the club anymore I'll still have a keen interest in how they perform and will of course wish them the best of luck.

Quoted from Meza

if your intentions are to help GTFC clearly not, explain?

Sorry Meza, don't understand the end of that one ?
Redo the whole question again if you like ?

Quoted from Meza

Q to MP - is the main reason why you left the board because you felt it to be unfair that each directors vote is equal regardless on how much you have invested into the club surely you knew this before committing ?

I left the board for many reasons (repeat waffle about processes, decision making...)

Good question about directors votes being equal - did he say anything about that before ?
If not, maybe just ask his view on that ?

Quoted from Meza

Q to JF - will GTFC be here next season ?

I would like to think so.
What I have expressed my concern about is the long-term sustainability of the club and any obligation to meet future losses whilst majority shareholding lies outside the boardroom.
If this cannot be sufficently resolved, we clearly need to move towards a position where the club cuts it's cloth whilst remaining as competitive as possible with a view to promotion.

Quoted from ginnywings

My question would be "why are you answering questions in one post as if you are JF"?

Because if I (or others so everyone please feel free to answer too) already know the answers and can answer them, people will probably get exactly the same answer from JF or Parker if/when they try.
So just trying to save people time but if you think my answer is wrong then of course, let me know !

If it was a fans forum we could ask hundreds of different questions but we want more info and REAL answers to get it resolved ?

As I said, if someone asks a question but no-one on here can answer it, then it's probably a good one.

Thanks 80's i'll redo one of the questions and add another.

Q to JF - regardless who is the chairman being an ex chairman surely this would cause a conflict of interest upon decision making if the recent statements and media interviews have anything to go by as in unprofessionalism and lack of mutual respect?

Q to MP - if you appoint someone else to be chairman, will this person have GTFC at heart? And will he run away if things don't go the way he wants?

Q to JF & MP - Itchy & Scratchy would like to sign Green will we be able to permanently add him to the squad and who will pay the additional wage?

To JF - Are there any circumstances that could occur that you would ask for your loans to GTFC to be paid back to you ?

80's can you also add when answering.

Well Meza that's a very good question at the end of the day or when all said and done or even with all due respect lol

Quoted from Meza

80's can you also add when answering.

Well Meza that's a very good question at the end of the day or when all said and done or even with all due respect lol

Quoted from Meza

Q to JF - regardless who is the chairman being an ex chairman surely this would cause a conflict of interest upon decision making if the recent statements and media interviews have anything to go by as in unprofessionalism and lack of mutual respect?

You mean Fenty being a director on the board ?
Sound good to me ! Can anyone else answer this one ? (as if they were Fenty obviously !)

Quoted from Meza

Q to MP - if you appoint someone else to be chairman, will this person have GTFC at heart? And will he run away if things don't go the way he wants?

Yes he will have the club at heart.

[Good question though, I don't know how accountable he would be - i.e.how, to whom ? the shareolders ? is that Parker ? How would it work ? When could he potentially be "fired" ?
Bear in mind it's all academic if Parker is not in any position to do it, so he may just say he doesn't want to answer hypothetical questions at this stage until things are resolved....]

Quoted from Meza

Q to JF & MP - Itchy & Scratchy would like to sign Green will we be able to permanently add him to the squad and who will pay the additional wage?

As always, any potential signings will be taken out of the yearly playing budget.
[PS Give it a week or two, you'll probably see  ]

Quoted from KK_DOG

To JF - Are there any circumstances that could occur that you would ask for your loans to GTFC to be paid back to you ?

Good one.

Quoted from 1600

As fans, feel we need to think carefully about what we'd ike to know and how it might help resove any stand off or stalemate.

The big mistake you are making is that you believe the situation can be resolved and that both can play an active role in owning and running the club.

Consider this...

Parker doesn't like Fenty and how he ran the club as Chairman. Parker has absolutely no desire to work in tandem with Fenty. Fenty would like to have control of the football club back. But he can't do it in a way that is remotely satisfactory to himself- even if he bought another 630,000 shares Parker would still own 40% of the club and wouldn't offer any funding. Fenty would be left owning 50% v Parker 40% but funding 100%- NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Parker holds all the aces. Also consider that Fenty has political ambitions- he will almost certainly stand as an MP at the next election. Would be viewed as very bad form if he was holding the club to ransom over his loans and endangering the local communities only professional Football Club.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The big mistake you are making is that you believe the situation can be resolved and that both can play an active role in owning and running the club.

Consider this...

Parker doesn't like Fenty and how he ran the club as Chairman. Parker has absolutely no desire to work in tandem with Fenty. Fenty would like to have control of the football club back. But he can't do it in a way that is remotely satisfactory to himself- even if he bought another 630,000 shares Parker would still own 40% of the club and wouldn't offer any funding. Fenty would be left owning 50% v Parker 40% but funding 100%- NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Parker holds all the aces. Also consider that Fenty has political ambitions- he will almost certainly stand as an MP at the next election. Would be viewed as very bad form if he was holding the club to ransom over his loans and endangering the local communities only professional Football Club.

The final line is absolutely spot on.  One question however, what chance has a conservative seriously got of being elected as MP for Grimsby got?  More chance of me winning the lottery and sh8gging Scarlet Johansen I would have thought.  

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Parker holds all the aces. Also consider that Fenty has political ambitions- he will almost certainly stand as an MP at the next election. Would be viewed as very bad form if he was holding the club to ransom over his loans and endangering the local communities only professional Football Club.

The rumours are that he's looking to replace Peter Tapsell in Louth.....believe me, he's got zero chance!

Quoted from sweetGTFC

The final line is absolutely spot on.  One question however, what chance has a conservative seriously got of being elected as MP for Grimsby got?  More chance of me winning the lottery and sh8gging Scarlet Johansen I would have thought.  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

The rumours are that he's looking to replace Peter Tapsell in Louth.....believe me, he's got zero chance!

It is worth considering that there are plans in place to reduce the amount of MPs in Parliament before the next election. Great Grimsby only has an electorate of  61,929 and Cleethorpes 70,895. The plan is for seats across the UK of 76,000 +/- 5%. Means the Great Grimsby seat inparticular is going to expand considerably most probably by incorporating Immingham, but if it instead incorporated villages and become a semi-rural seat it could well mean it is a viable Tory target, especially for a well known local candidate.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

It is worth considering that there are plans in place to reduce the amount of MPs in Parliament before the next election. Great Grimsby only has an electorate of  61,929 and Cleethorpes 70,895. The plan is for seats across the UK of 76,000 +/- 5%. Means the Great Grimsby seat inparticular is going to expand considerably most probably by incorporating Immingham, but if it instead incorporated villages and become a semi-rural seat it could well mean it is a viable Tory target, especially for a well known local candidate.

Surprised at this post.

Isnt it common knowledge that the boundary for the current great Grimsby constituency is to be moved into Cleethorpes, taking into account up to and including part of St Peters Ave.

It will leave Gy an even greater labour stronghold and strengthen the conservative hold over clee

Quoted from Meza

Thanks 80's i'll redo one of the questions and add another.

Q to JF - regardless who is the chairman being an ex chairman surely this would cause a conflict of interest upon decision making if the recent statements and media interviews have anything to go by as in unprofessionalism and lack of mutual respect?Q to MP - if you appoint someone else to be chairman, will this person have GTFC at heart? And will he run away if things don't go the way he wants?

Q to JF & MP - Itchy & Scratchy would like to sign Green will we be able to permanently add him to the squad and who will pay the additional wage?

I can't see where this is a problem . Furneaux has had two spells as Chairman but reverted to being just a board member serving under various chairmen.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The big mistake you are making is that you believe the situation can be resolved and that both can play an active role in owning and running the club.

Consider this...

Parker doesn't like Fenty and how he ran the club as Chairman. Parker has absolutely no desire to work in tandem with Fenty. Fenty would like to have control of the football club back. But he can't do it in a way that is remotely satisfactory to himself- even if he bought another 630,000 shares Parker would still own 40% of the club and wouldn't offer any funding. Fenty would be left owning 50% v Parker 40% but funding 100%- NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Parker holds all the aces. Also consider that Fenty has political ambitions- he will almost certainly stand as an MP at the next election. Would be viewed as very bad form if he was holding the club to ransom over his loans and endangering the local communities only professional Football Club.

If that was the case then why join the board in the first place and be Joint Chairman with JF ?

Quoted from rancido

If that was the case then why join the board in the first place and be Joint Chairman with JF ?

I suppose only by working with someone do you get the true picture about how (badly) things are run.

Quoted from rancido

If that was the case then why join the board in the first place and be Joint Chairman with JF ?

He was vice Chairman, not joint Chairman. And like Quagmire said, knowing someone and working with someone is a completely different proposition. Relationships breakdown irreversably in all walks of life.

Quoted from Kris Mustampa

Surprised at this post.

Isnt it common knowledge that the boundary for the current great Grimsby constituency is to be moved into Cleethorpes, taking into account up to and including part of St Peters Ave.

It will leave Gy an even greater labour stronghold and strengthen the conservative hold over clee

That's the way i saw it.I live in Sidney Sussex ward and it is to be part of Grimsby at the next election,i'm led to believe.I would imagine there are more Labour voters in this area than Conservatives,so as you say,that strengthens the Tories in Cleethorpes and just makes Grimsby even more Labour.

Question for John Fenty,

When you gave Grimsby Town FC. a loan or loans, you must have done a legal transfer from your bank,

What does it say on the documents ?

1.   I do not want these loans to be payed back ever.

2.   I can ask for my money back at any time,

OR

3. I will only ask for my money back if I am no longer on the board.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The big mistake you are making is that you believe the situation can be resolved and that both can play an active role in owning and running the club.

Like you, I don't believe they can both play an active role in running the club. (well not in together !)
Owning not sure...
When I said resolved I meant get answers to try to move things along asap, not bring in ACAS to act as mediator.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Consider this...

Parker doesn't like Fenty and how he ran the club as Chairman. Parker has absolutely no desire to work in tandem with Fenty. Fenty would like to have control of the football club back. But he can't do it in a way that is remotely satisfactory to himself- even if he bought another 630,000 shares Parker would still own 40% of the club and wouldn't offer any funding. Fenty would be left owning 50% v Parker 40% but funding 100%- NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Yes I already know !  

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Parker holds all the aces.

Not so sure about that - as it is, Parker is outside the boardroom.
He may be holding the aces but someones just raised the stakes and it might cost him more than he'd like to call.
Also will the investigation force him to acquire or relinquish shareolding ?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Also consider that Fenty has political ambitions- he will almost certainly stand as an MP at the next election.
Would be viewed as very bad form if he was holding the club to ransom over his loans and endangering the local communities only professional Football Club.

If that's true it's a cracking point...

To Both - The Takeover Board or whatever their called knew about this situation months ago so why as it come to an head now?

To MP Why if you have no interest in being Chairman did you invest so much in GTFC?

To JF Under what circumstances would or could you return as Chairman?

Quoted from DJ Mera

To Both - The Takeover Board or whatever their called knew about this situation months ago so why as it come to an head now?

Why has it come to a head now is a valid question when majority control lied outside the boardroom when Parker resigned, but unless you can provide evidence there's no reason to think the TB knew about this situation months ago ?

Quoted from DJ Mera

To MP Why if you have no interest in being Chairman did you invest so much in GTFC?

Quoted from DJ Mera

To JF Under what circumstances would or could you return as Chairman?

Like those.

Interesting to note when Parker was asked "Why then have you become the majority shareholder if you don't want to run the club ?" he came back with an answer specifically about how his "majority shareholding" had arisen. (tbf it was right he did)
If you ask a question about the chairmanship he may do the same thing - talk about that and mention he was happy to share decisions with John until he left, then say his circumstances have changed.

I presume what you're getting at is whether he wants the power to control the club ?

Your question is a fair one but I would ask:

"Why did you agree to put money into the club when you were no longer on the board and why won't you rule out putting future money into the club from outside the boardroom ?" ?

If he says he wanted/wants to protect GTFC etc, then he's putting himself under a sense of obligation to do the same in the future ?  

Quoted from 1600

Why has it come to a head now is a valid question when majority control lied outside the boardroom when Parker resigned, but unless you can provide evidence there's no reason to think the TB knew about this situation months ago ?

[/b]As I understand it (and, believe me, I am no expert!) the TB are automatically alerted whenever a transfer of shares over the value of £100,000 takes place.[b]

Like those. Interesting to note when Parker was asked "Why then have you become the majority shareholder if you don't want to run the club ?" he came back with an answer specifically about how his "majority shareholding" had arisen. (tbf it was right he did)
If you ask a question about the chairmanship he may do the same thing - talk about that and mention he was happy to share decisions with John until he left, then say his circumstances have changed.

I presume what you're getting at is whether he wants the power to control the club ?

Your question is a fair one but I would ask:

"Why did you agree to put money into the club when you were no longer on the board and why won't you rule out putting future money into the club from outside the boardroom ?" ?  The question I would ask is a) why did he leave the board (with the hope of a specific answer rather than his previous answer) and b) Why did he agree to share the financial agreement with JF a year ago but now feels it necessary to limit that to the end of the season. That isn't what he said before!If he says he wanted/wants to protect GTFC etc, then he's putting himself under a sense of obligation to do the same in the future ?   Fair point!

Urrrgghh !   (oh you've changed it now ! )

You say:
"As I understand it (and, believe me, I am no expert!) the TB are automatically alerted whenever a transfer of shares over the value of £100,000 takes place."

Presumably that happened months ago so they just have been slow to react ?

Note Parker was asked:
"How long have the take over panel been involved in looking at this and who got them involved in the first place?"
MP: "Well I can't answer the second question because I just don't know, I have had conversations with them over the last few days, clearly John makes reference in his statement that he's had conversations as well."

Tarka you ask:
"b) Why did he agree to share the financial agreement with JF a year ago but now feels it necessary to limit that to the end of the season. That isn't what he said before!"

What did he say then ?

As far as I know it was an open ended agreement...no time frames were mentioned.  I am sure that JF would never have relinquished his 51% control on the basis of 18 months joint investment.

Quoted from tarka

As far as I know it was an open ended agreement...no time frames were mentioned.  I am sure that JF would never have relinquished his 51% control on the basis of 18 months joint investment.

Bearing in mind the numerous other clangers weve seen JF drop in the last 7 years it was surely only a matter of time before someone else exploited his weaknesses when the chance arose Dave?I am not a wealthy buisnessman who can treat a football club like my personal toy nor am i a shark who can smell blood and instinctively know when the times right to attack Mike Parker however...........................

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Bearing in mind the numerous other clangers weve seen JF drop in the last 7 years it was surely only a matter of time before someone else exploited his weaknesses when the chance arose Dave?I am not a wealthy buisnessman who can treat a football club like my personal toy nor am i a shark who can smell blood and instinctively know when the times right to attack Mike Parker however...........................

That is assuming MP has behaved in a predatory manner....I'm not convinced that he has.  And no, I have no inside information to substantiate this but my feeling is he realised (probably at the point he left the Board) just what he let himself in for.

Quoted from tarka

As far as I know it was an open ended agreement...no time frames were mentioned.  I am sure that JF would never have relinquished his 51% control on the basis of 18 months joint investment.

when he left the board he publically agreed to cover the losses for this season and increase his shareholding, no further promises were made.

But I'm not talking about when he left the Board...rather what was agreed when he joined the Board and prior to last year's AGM.

Quoted from tarka

That is assuming MP has behaved in a predatory manner....I'm not convinced that he has.  And no, I have no inside information to substantiate this but my feeling is he realised (probably at the point he left the Board) just what he let himself in for.

You know that makes a lot of sense, factors are: other commitments after he increased his shares, poor results on the field(until recently} abuse directed at the previous Chairman etc etc.
so rocking the boat hoping that JF will increase his share holding and take control again along with further investment.
If this is correct his only option to recover his share outlet would be to find other investors to purchase them. which he`s promised to do
Just my opinion

Im pretty sure when MP was wheeled out in triumph by JF as another shoulder for the Club to lean on that one or both said other outside parties would be coming in and that has never happened for whatever reason so i think that may be a significant factor in the thinking of MP?