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Connell is wheeled out on cue to praise the club and thank Fenty. The managers and the board issue a rallying cry for "everyone to get behind the club". Ever get the feeling you've been cheated ?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iix18rtJmU0 |
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Connell is wheeled out on cue to praise the club and thank Fenty. The managers and the board issue a rallying cry for "everyone to get behind the club". Ever get the feeling you've been cheated ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iix18rtJmU0
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Give what a rest ?
Spouting utter balderdash. Disagree with it if you want but it's not the end of the world. We haven't been cheated at all, it's basically like you being headhunted at work and moving on. i don't think he fitted the S&H system and although he was a good player last season I think we wouldn't have had to rely on him this season anyway. Time will tell. Maybe, just maybe, there's a replacement on the way. 100-150k for a 28-year-old who's had one good season is a decent piece of business at our level. |
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Give what a rest ?
Breathing, preferably. |
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We haven't been cheated at all
Matter of opinion. What was all this b0llocks about him being "not for sale" and trying to fight off interest ? Let's be honest - it's most probably the club posturing like they didn't want to sell when they really did. I now feel foolish for ever thinking things might be different or the club might have an ounce of ambition. We can debate on every issue all we like but the truth is, we've seen it all before.
i don't think he fitted the S&H system and although he was a good player last season I think we wouldn't have had to rely on him this season anyway. Time will tell.
Sure will but if things go titis up, it won't be Fenty or the Connell transfer taking the blame, it'll be the players for not pulling their weight (again !).
100-150k for a 28-year-old who's had one good season is a decent piece of business at our level.
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Thats not short term thinking - short term thinking is what Swindon have done by signing a 28 year old with only one better than average goalscoring season.
We are clearly showing long term thinking with the average age of our signings.
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At the end of the day, a six figure sum is a big sum of money for a player at this level and even if you don't think we should have accepted that, Connell handed in a transfer request and obviously had his heart set on a move there. I'm drunk off too but we've got to move on.
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The answer to the question of 'What happens next' is Duffy, Makofo and Mulready step up to the plate. The money we have got for Connell WHATEVER the fee should imo be kept til January to fund our final promotion push.
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As Mr J Fenty (con) explained, survival is our main objective.
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We are clearly showing long term thinking with the average age of our signings.
I agree with that but if we're "building for future" that's a different kettle of fish. I was under the impression this season was sh1t or bust. I may be wrong but when you look at the clubs debt you can't help be concerned that downsizing will happen next season if we don't get promoted. |
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The answer to the question of 'What happens next' is Duffy, Makofo and Mulready step up to the plate. The money we have got for Connell WHATEVER the fee should imo be kept til January to fund our final promotion push.
Good point, keeping the cash for later in the season could be a big advantage. It would mean we could actually afford a fee for a player that shows promise in this league or the league below that may be able to improve the team. As for Duffy I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as people make out and fingers crossed he shows that. Makofo has pace and that is a very useful attribute in any league. Maybe if he is used in the right manner we can make use of him. We have to stop paying off players and try to get something out of them. |
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Maybe it is excrement or bust, but maybe we have 2/3 other players lined up who we feel will come in and their efforts combined will be more effective than Connell.
Too much reactionism about in football nowadays.
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As for Duffy I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as people make out and fingers crossed he shows that. Makofo has pace and that is a very useful attribute in any league. Maybe if he is used in the right manner we can make use of him. We have to stop paying off players and try to get something out of them.
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Short term thinking - exactly the reason we've ended up in this shithole of a league in the first place.
The second part is true but this transfer is simply good business. Short term thinking would have been to keep him and turn down £150k then let him go for nothing next year. Well though Connell did last year, you are only as good as your last game. There is no guarantee he would do as well or even be in the side by the end of the season. So well done Fenty, for once this is forward thinking. Give the managers the cash to get one or two more lads who really see GTFC as a step up in their careers and will gives us their all. |
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What was all this b0llocks about him being "not for sale" and trying to fight off interest ?
Let's be honest - it's most probably the club posturing like they didn't want to sell when they really did.
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The second part is true but this transfer is simply good business. Short term thinking would have been to keep him and turn down £150k then let him go for nothing next year.
Well though Connell did last year, you are only as good as your last game. There is no guarantee he would do as well or even be in the side by the end of the season. So well done Fenty, for once this is forward thinking. Give the managers the cash to get one or two more lads who really see GTFC as a step up in their careers and will gives us their all.
I'd be suprised if we got $150,000 ! TRRFC normally I respect your posts but with all due respect, everything I've seen you say today sounds like tired old cliches. marinette made a great point a while ago on this site to the effect that if Connell can score 20+ goals with an alledged bunch of slackers and wasters, then why aren't we entertaining the idea of him doing even better ? Suffice to say no-one ever responded to it.... We'll never know what might have been, but Swindon will most probably be challenging in L2 so obviously they can see the potentia in THEIR bid for promotion. As for replacements for Connell, I think he's already here and called Liam Hearn. Why did I ever doubt anything else ?  |
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marinette made a great point a while ago on this site to the effect that if Connell can score 20+ goals with an alledged bunch of slackers and wasters, then why aren't we entertaining the idea of him doing even better ?
Suffice to say no-one ever responded to it....
Maybe because it became clear he wanted out, after the end of Feb/March time last year he became less and less effective in games and he generally looked like he wanted out. If that had carried on into this season then chances are he wouldnt have even been in the team to get the chance of scoring goals. Maybe he got drunk off at the poor work-rate, maybe he wanted to be closer to home, maybe he wanted 'league' football, but he just didnt look as into it by the end. |
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I don't remember being told he wasn't for sale, only that he wouldn't be going to a BSP club and that a good offer from a league club would be seriously considered. Maybe I missed something?
Just look in the GET article http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....22-detail/story.html"I want to make it absolutely clear again that our top scorer is not for sale." But that's my point though. Fenty is full of doublespeak - he says one thing as if we're meant to beleive it's gospel but then immediate contradicts himself and says the opposite. Ok he MAY have meant Luton, but in any case it's not conclusive, bordering on misleading and we've seen and heard of mutliple examples from the club saying they're not looking to sell. "I can say again we are not looking to sell a player who was our top scorer last season." Yeah, say it again Fenty ! Why can't you just be straight with the fans and say you're loooking to sell at the right price ? But oh no, we've got to have this all political talk and believe they're fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of him haven't we ? My @rse ! As for the season being excrement or bust, it's a guess based on Fenty's own words about a need for promotion and articles in the media relating to the state of the clubs finances e.g. the youth team being under strain. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds but at the end of the day(irrespective of the wages WE choose to pay), we're losing £500K every year we stay in the BSP. |
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As for the season being excrement or bust, it's a guess based on Fenty's own words about a need for promotion and articles in the media relating to the state of the clubs finances e.g. the youth team being under strain.
I hope it's not as bad as it sounds but at the end of the day(irrespective of the wages WE choose to pay), we're losing £500K every year we stay in the BSP.
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Just look in the GET article http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....22-detail/story.html"I want to make it absolutely clear again that our top scorer is not for sale." But that's my point though. Fenty is full of doublespeak - he says one thing as if we're meant to beleive it's gospel but then immediate contradicts himself and says the opposite. Ok he MAY have meant Luton, but in any case it's not conclusive, bordering on misleading and we've seen and heard of mutliple examples from the club saying they're not looking to sell. "I can say again we are not looking to sell a player who was our top scorer last season." Yeah, say it again Fenty ! Why can't you just be straight with the fans and say you're loooking to sell at the right price ? But oh no, we've got to have this all political talk and believe they're fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of him haven't we ? My @rse ! As for the season being excrement or bust, it's a guess based on Fenty's own words about a need for promotion and articles in the media relating to the state of the clubs finances e.g. the youth team being under strain. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds but at the end of the day(irrespective of the wages WE choose to pay), we're losing £500K every year we stay in the BSP.
I've never had a go at you 80's, I admire your enthusiasm a lot but you are beating a long-dead horse here....Fenty did what any chairman would have done. He said what any other would have said. It was a good deal, we got a big payout on a player that cost next to nothing, who did not want to be here for another season AND was not sold to LUTON or SCUNNY ! For that I am grateful. |
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Just look in the GET article http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....22-detail/story.html"I want to make it absolutely clear again that our top scorer is not for sale." But that's my point though. Fenty is full of doublespeak - he says one thing as if we're meant to beleive it's gospel but then immediate contradicts himself and says the opposite. Ok he MAY have meant Luton, but in any case it's not conclusive, bordering on misleading and we've seen and heard of mutliple examples from the club saying they're not looking to sell. "I can say again we are not looking to sell a player who was our top scorer last season." Yeah, say it again Fenty ! Why can't you just be straight with the fans and say you're loooking to sell at the right price ? But oh no, we've got to have this all political talk and believe they're fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of him haven't we ? My @rse ! As for the season being excrement or bust, it's a guess based on Fenty's own words about a need for promotion and articles in the media relating to the state of the clubs finances e.g. the youth team being under strain. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds but at the end of the day(irrespective of the wages WE choose to pay), we're losing £500K every year we stay in the BSP.
For someone who apparently dissects everything into minute detail and forms opinion on every utterance to suddenly take the spoken word of a football club chairman as gospel seems strange, and if you don't mind me saying, a little naive. As mentioned elsewhere............"What happens next".........we move on UTM |
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Just look in the GET article http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....22-detail/story.html"I want to make it absolutely clear again that our top scorer is not for sale." "I can say again we are not looking to sell a player who was our top scorer last season." Yeah, say it again Fenty !
yet again twisting things to prove your pointless argument. How about quoting this line from the same article? "Unless there is an offer from a league club, there is nothing for us to consider and Alan remains here where we want him and will be here on August 13 when the season begins.He's not for sale unless a league club comes in with the right offer........... its all very simple, now just stop going on. |
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In the end, if you say you want to sell you will always get lower offers. He has gone to a league team whicgh is what he wanted, I dont see the problem. Pity hes going but its good business to sell while he is hot property, as long as a big chunk of it is added to the the transfer/wages kitty for this season.
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For someone who apparently dissects everything into minute detail and forms opinion on every utterance to suddenly take the spoken word of a football club chairman as gospel seems strange, and if you don't mind me saying, a little naive.
You've totally misunderstood so are in no position to call me naive, quite the opposite in fact. I never took it as gospel at all, I always had my doubts. But the tone and arrogance of Fenty's words and statements suggested he wanted fans to treat his re-assurances with complete acceptance.
yet again twisting things to prove your pointless argument.
Says you who missed out half of my quote to twist your own argument.
Macca could be a right male private but he wasn't stupid, 80s however...
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I'd be suprised if we got $150,000 ! TRRFC normally I respect your posts but with all due respect, everything I've seen you say today sounds like tired old cliches. marinette made a great point a while ago on this site to the effect that if Connell can score 20+ goals with an alledged bunch of slackers and wasters, then why aren't we entertaining the idea of him doing even better ? Suffice to say no-one ever responded to it.... We'll never know what might have been, but Swindon will most probably be challenging in L2 so obviously they can see the potentia in THEIR bid for promotion. As for replacements for Connell, I think he's already here and called Liam Hearn. Why did I ever doubt anything else ?
Well I will reiterate a cliche for you 80s - you are only as good as your last post game. I think Swindon may well have drawn a blank with this signing. Many strikers over the years have had a purple patch season and then sunk back into the pack. Connell did very well last year but I honestly don't think he would do the same again if he stayed here. As you say, we will never know. But it must be good business to sell on someone who came for "free" before he can go for free, especially as he obviously wanted to go. Never keep an unhappy player. I didn't actually say "replacements for Connell" though I guess there might be another striker on the books before too long unless Duffy suddenly becomes a hero. But let's be realistic and look to the future instead of going on about what might have been - he's gone, history. Thank you very much, good luck and all that .......... but I am more interested in the club and what we can do with an undisclosed six figure fee. |
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Says you who missed out half of my quote to twist your own argument.
Read your post again and then tell me how any of it was any different to the part I quoted. I just condensed it down because you spout crap after crap after crap.
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Just look in the GET article http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....22-detail/story.html"I want to make it absolutely clear again that our top scorer is not for sale." But that's my point though. Fenty is full of doublespeak - he says one thing as if we're meant to beleive it's gospel but then immediate contradicts himself and says the opposite. Ok he MAY have meant Luton, but in any case it's not conclusive, bordering on misleading and we've seen and heard of mutliple examples from the club saying they're not looking to sell. "I can say again we are not looking to sell a player who was our top scorer last season." Yeah, say it again Fenty ! Why can't you just be straight with the fans and say you're loooking to sell at the right price ? But oh no, we've got to have this all political talk and believe they're fighting tooth and nail to keep hold of him haven't we ? My @rse ! As for the season being excrement or bust, it's a guess based on Fenty's own words about a need for promotion and articles in the media relating to the state of the clubs finances e.g. the youth team being under strain. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds but at the end of the day(irrespective of the wages WE choose to pay), we're losing £500K every year we stay in the BSP.
particularly the part about double speak and how he says hes not for sale. Yet you fail to put in the quote where he isn't for sale "UNLESS" some league club comes in with right offer. Don't bother replying cause your now on ignore, well done first poster on here I have bothered to ignore. |
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The answer to the question of 'What happens next' is Duffy, Makofo and Mulready step up to the plate.
I'd be surprised if they'll get anywhere near 'the plate'. A lazy fat bloke, a bloke who can run fast but can't play football and a kid on a 6 month deal. |
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