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First 12 league matches as manager

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GollyGTFC
February 17, 2024, 10:11pm

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As today was David Artell's 12th league game (mis-)managing GTFC I thought i'd see where he ranks against the previous 23 permanent managers of GTFC. He's in at 20 in the table and 3 of the 4 managers below him ended up relegated at the end of the season during which they were appointed as was one of the 2 managers immediately above him in the table...

#.   Manager                 W-D-L  GF-GA  Points

1.   Brian Laws              5-4-3  22-17  19 pts
2.   Marcus Bignot           5-3-4  17-13  18 pts
3.   Ian Holloway            5-3-4  20-19  18 pts
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4.   Russell Slade           5-2-5  15-11  17 pts
5.   Alan Buckley (2)        4-5-3  12-12  17 pts
6.   Paul Groves             4-4-4  14-12  16 pts
7.   Mike Lyons              5-1-6  21-21  16 pts
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8.   Russell Slade (2)       5-1-6  19-23  16 pts     
9.   Lennie Lawrence         5-1-6   9-15  16 pts
10.  Michael Jolley          4-3-5  13-19  15 pts
11.  Bobby Roberts           4-2-6  13-12  14 pts
12.  Kenny Swain             3-5-4  17-17  14 pts
13.  George Kerr             4-2-6  13-18  14 pts
14.  Alan Buckley            3-4-5  12-19  13 pts
15.  Alan Buckley (3)        4-1-7   8-18  13 pts
16.  Graham Rodger           3-3-6  12-20  12 pts
17.  Mike Newell             2-5-5  14-20  11 pts
18.  Nicky Law               3-2-7  11-21  11 pts
19.  Paul Hurst & Rob Scott  2-4-6  14-21  10 pts
20.  David Artell            2-4-6  17-28  10 pts
21.  David Booth             1-6-5  12-18   9 pts
22.  Neil Woods              0-9-3   7-13   9 pts
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23.  Johnny Newman           2-1-9   9-20   7 pts
24.  Paul Hurst (2)          1-3-8   6-17   6 pts

Interestingly only 4 managers achieved more goals scored than DA has. But unsurprisingly no one comes even close to having conceded as many goals as his side have.
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Looking at that table Brian Laws is free.


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Quoted from GollyGTFC
As today was David Artell's 12th league game (mis-)managing GTFC I thought i'd see where he ranks against the previous 23 permanent managers of GTFC. He's in at 20 in the table and 3 of the 4 managers below him ended up relegated at the end of the season during which they were appointed as was one of the 2 managers immediately above him in the table...

#.   Manager                 W-D-L  GF-GA  Points

1.   Brian Laws              5-4-3  22-17  19 pts
2.   Marcus Bignot           5-3-4  17-13  18 pts
3.   Ian Holloway            5-3-4  20-19  18 pts
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4.   Russell Slade           5-2-5  15-11  17 pts
5.   Alan Buckley (2)        4-5-3  12-12  17 pts
6.   Paul Groves             4-4-4  14-12  16 pts
7.   Mike Lyons              5-1-6  21-21  16 pts
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8.   Russell Slade (2)       5-1-6  19-23  16 pts     
9.   Lennie Lawrence         5-1-6   9-15  16 pts
10.  Michael Jolley          4-3-5  13-19  15 pts
11.  Bobby Roberts           4-2-6  13-12  14 pts
12.  Kenny Swain             3-5-4  17-17  14 pts
13.  George Kerr             4-2-6  13-18  14 pts
14.  Alan Buckley            3-4-5  12-19  13 pts
15.  Alan Buckley (3)        4-1-7   8-18  13 pts
16.  Graham Rodger           3-3-6  12-20  12 pts
17.  Mike Newell             2-5-5  14-20  11 pts
18.  Nicky Law               3-2-7  11-21  11 pts
19.  Paul Hurst & Rob Scott  2-4-6  14-21  10 pts
20.  David Artell            2-4-6  17-28  10 pts
21.  David Booth             1-6-5  12-18   9 pts
22.  Neil Woods              0-9-3   7-13   9 pts
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23.  Johnny Newman           2-1-9   9-20   7 pts
24.  Paul Hurst (2)          1-3-8   6-17   6 pts

Interestingly only 4 managers achieved more angoals scored than DA has. But unsurprisingly no one comes even close to having conceded as many goals as his side have.


Does that take into account when it was 2 points for a win?


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February 17, 2024, 10:20pm

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Very GTFC that not a single one has had a start you'd deem great.


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February 17, 2024, 10:22pm
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Have we ever conceded more than 21 goals in 6 matches (is it 21 in 6 - I’m too traumatised to check?)?

There’s a clean sheet in that run too!

Edit: I’ve checked the 6 matches around the thrashings by Hartlepoolx2, Sheff Wed, the 6-5 Burnley win etc and we don’t even come close to this level of defensive shïtdom
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February 17, 2024, 10:25pm
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In no defence of Artell who I think has to go, that table doesn’t really mean a lot . Dave Booth one place below him, managed probably the best Town team I’ve ever seen . I think they finished 5th on goal difference in what would now be the championship.
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All that demonstrates to me is that you can't judge a manager after 12 games.


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Cant beleive the best managerial start weve had in the last 40/50 years didnt even win half the games  
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February 17, 2024, 10:33pm
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Johnny Newman is 2nd to bottom in the table.  My memory (wrong or distorted) is that he went on to be a good manager for us.
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