Dallas

https://www.solihullmoorsfc.co.....aWt_lSYwFCCyibmFO2HY

Been offered a new deal at Solihull seems strange as he is on Ioan to chesterfield must be something todo with maximising any transfer fee ?

Technicalities and formalities I suspect.

Not sure on the exact rulings now but it basically revolves around having to offer out of contract players (for those that are under 24) of similar or greater value than their expiring one to qualify for compensation.  Basically exactly what we didn't do with Danny Butterfield which is why we went from turning down a bid of £1million to losing him on a free to the same club within the space of 12 months.

Dallas has only been at Solihull for two-years so their compensation claims will be relatively minor really.  He's kicked into life at the business end of the season, if he continues that in the play-offs his relative gamble of going out on loan rather than a permanent deal will have come in for him, add a few quid to his wage demands for certain.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Technicalities and formalities I suspect.

Not sure on the exact rulings now but it basically revolves around having to offer out of contract players (for those that are under 24) of similar or greater value than their expiring one to qualify for compensation.  Basically exactly what we didn't do with Danny Butterfield which is why we went from turning down a bid of £1million to losing him on a free to the same club within the space of 12 months.

Dallas has only been at Solihull for two-years so their compensation claims will be relatively minor really.  He's kicked into life at the business end of the season, if he continues that in the play-offs his relative gamble of going out on loan rather than a permanent deal will have come in for him, add a few quid to his wage demands for certain.

I posted on the transfer thread the other day that he's 24 at back end of July, and I assume nobody has to pay compensation for him at that point.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I posted on the transfer thread the other day that he's 24 at back end of July, and I assume nobody has to pay compensation for him at that point.

I don’t know this for fact, I’m basing it purely on the fact that Solihull have bothered to offer Dallas a contract and that they were steadfast enough not to accept any offers in January, but I assume that the rule applies based on the player’s age on the date of contract expiry.

If there isn’t some fixed date in place such as that it leaves the ruling open to abuse. If someone knows otherwise and can correct me, please do.

Yeah I suspect that it'll be his age when the contract expires, as Poojah states.  I think contracts tend to expire no later than 30th June, potentially earlier for some clubs who want to avoid paying wages through the summer.

Otherwise clubs would wait for those players who turn 24 in July, August, maybe even September so they can nab them without compensation.  The players too would probably wait if it meant they can take a chunk of that compensation fee to bump their wages.

Be a good question for Kieran Maguire.

Quoted from Poojah

I don’t know this for fact, I’m basing it purely on the fact that Solihull have bothered to offer Dallas a contract and that they were steadfast enough not to accept any offers in January, but I assume that the rule applies based on the player’s age on the date of contract expiry.

If there isn’t some fixed date in place such as that it leaves the ruling open to abuse. If someone knows otherwise and can correct me, please do.

The wording here says "Compensation is payable until the end of the season of the player’s 23rd birthday." so I think they will be lucky to get anything.

[url]https://www.easportslaw.com/news/training-compensation-and-solidarity-mechanism[/url]

Quoted from diehardmariner

Yeah I suspect that it'll be his age when the contract expires, as Poojah states.  I think contracts tend to expire no later than 30th June, potentially earlier for some clubs who want to avoid paying wages through the summer.

Otherwise clubs would wait for those players who turn 24 in July, August, maybe even September so they can nab them without compensation.  The players too would probably wait if it meant they can take a chunk of that compensation fee to bump their wages.

Be a good question for Kieran Maguire.

But also, it would be incredibly restrictive of Solihull and detrimental to the career of a young player if Solihull were entitled to compensation for 2 years if nobody signed him as they didn't want to pay a fee. Dallas is one those few people that only just sneaks in to the under 24 category at his contract expiry, he's like the kid who starts school on his 5th birthday whilst his best mate was 4 only a few days previously.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see him at someone like Motherwell next year, especially if compensation needs to be paid. I may be wrong but I don’t think Scottish clubs would need to pay compensation as it would be an international move?

Who?

Turned us down so he is dead to me.

Who?

Turned us down so he is dead to me.

Who?

Turned us down so he is dead to me.

He turned us down twice so I posted my two cents twice.

One day he'll be in the shower and realise that it had all been a dream.

Quoted from Total Hawsehole

One day he'll be in the shower and realise that it had all been a dream.

Underrated comment this one is, Haws.

Too niche and you have to be over 60 to get it though

Quoted from Total Hawsehole

Too niche and you have to be over 60 to get it though

I’m 49 I’ll have you know!

I'm 40 and I get it!

I’m 54 and I don’t get it.

Although I understand the Dallas reference 🙂

Quoted from Posh Harry

I’m 54 and I don’t get it.

Although I understand the Dallas reference 🙂

Boom boom 💥.

Blokes an idiot. Could have signed for us, ended up at non league Chesterfield who are a smaller club than us anyway even if in the same league. He's shite from what I've seen of him anyway. He can do one.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Wouldn’t be surprised to see him at someone like Motherwell next year, especially if compensation needs to be paid. I may be wrong but I don’t think Scottish clubs would need to pay compensation as it would be an international move?

In Scotland the rule for compensation  is under 23 ,,,,,,,going back a few years York had a player (cant remember his name)  he was under 24 and York was expecting some compensation / fee set by tribunal    and he went and joined a club in scotland  for free ....York where fuming  

Quoted from Poojah

I don’t know this for fact, I’m basing it purely on the fact that Solihull have bothered to offer Dallas a contract and that they were steadfast enough not to accept any offers in January, but I assume that the rule applies based on the player’s age on the date of contract expiry.

If there isn’t some fixed date in place such as that it leaves the ruling open to abuse. If someone knows otherwise and can correct me, please do.

Solihull did accept others in January. The player turned them down.

My understanding is that SMFC will get nothing because he’s 24 before 31st August 2023, but if anyone knows better or has a link to the rules please post them.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Solihull did accept others in January. The player turned them down.

My understanding is that SMFC will get nothing because he’s 24 before 31st August 2023, but if anyone knows better or has a link to the rules please post them.

EFL rule 67.1 defines under 24 player date as 30th June.