Wrexham

Good luck to them today . Their fans have suffered enough and deserve to be promoted this time . They should bring a good following next season too .

I just can't bring myself to wish good luck to a team that has cheating Mullin in it and whinging Parkinson as the manager.

Quoted from promotion plaice

I just can't bring myself to wish good luck to a team that has cheating Mullin in it and whinging Parkinson as the manager.

It's about the fans mate

Quoted from It Bites

It's about the fans mate

The 4000 that were there when they were on their knees…not the ones who rocked up when Hollywood arrived…

Quoted from It Bites

Good luck to them today . Their fans have suffered enough and deserve to be promoted this time . They should bring a good following next season too .

I want them up to
Bradford,Mansfield and Stockport to stay down
Wrexham & Notts up
Hartlepool stay up
Thats 6 decent away followings + Donny
Need as many as we can get with the amount most bring .

Quoted from aldi_01

The 4000 that were there when they were on their knees…not the ones who rocked up when Hollywood arrived…

You could say that about us though mate to a lesser extent
Pot kettle really

Quoted from It Bites

It's about the fans mate

Yes and hurrah to all the Alabama Reds! Suuueeyy! Ssssuuuueeeyyyy!

https://twitter.com/joebrewing/status/1648440026534121472?s=46&t=T3cXH3zhRV4z6deXU9rfJw

To be fair, had it not been for an aggressive marketing campaign, spending millions on wages, using their Hollywood status, slack jawed yokels in Alabama and a cheat up front, they’d probably have limped in to the playoffs after sacking the dinosaur in January.

What we did last year, whatever anyone thinks, and it isn’t really bias, is significantly more impressive than what Wrexham have done.

I’m not really arsed either way but after seeing Mr Beige bottle the playoffs and go to the pub at half time or whatever, I hoped they failed every single game the flipping melt…

Quoted from It Bites

Good luck to them today . Their fans have suffered enough and deserve to be promoted this time . They should bring a good following next season too .

Yeah. Maybe. But it would be really funny if they managed to blow it and lost in the play-offs again wouldn't it? Especially if it was to a Jordan Cropper long throw goal again.

Quoted from Mappers

You could say that about us though mate to a lesser extent
Pot kettle really

I would much rather we keep improving ,under the radar with Jason & Andrews intellectual capital than what Wrexham have ; I do not even envy them and feel like they deserve to get a bit of glory , they were and have always been a proper club .

I would only see a need to be upset if we were in a bad place and they were enjoying the riches we would not have .

We have 2 lifelong fans at the helm who will always have that .
We are the fortunate ones.

Quoted from It Bites

Good luck to them today . Their fans have suffered enough and deserve to be promoted this time . They should bring a good following next season too .

Couldn't care less TBH.  The only team I care about is GTFC.  UTM!

Not much of an achievement really is it?

Pour in loads of money, sign players capable of playing well above this level and amass a record amount of points.

Think some of us on here could manage them to the title with that advantage.

In fact, they could probably put one of us in their team and still win most games.

I’d like to see them and Notts come up. Proper football league clubs, long suffering fans who were class with us when we beat them both, and, frankly, the likes of Bromley, Borehamwood, Solihull etc do not belong in the EFL.

Quoted from chaos33

I’d like to see them and Notts come up. Proper football league clubs, long suffering fans who were class with us when we beat them both, and, frankly, the likes of Bromley, Borehamwood, Solihull etc do not belong in the EFL.

To be fair, walking out the ground after that Wrexham game was the most bizarre feeling ever. Of course there was jubilation and joy but it felt a little bit like the end of days or something…I felt like I was in a daze if I’m honest…wouldn’t know if their fans were class or not…

They showed great grace in wishing us well and donating money to fans who were struggling to afford Wembley.
That’s what I’m referring to.

Quoted from chaos33

I’d like to see them and Notts come up. Proper football league clubs, long suffering fans who were class with us when we beat them both, and, frankly, the likes of Bromley, Borehamwood, Solihull etc do not belong in the EFL.

And why not?  They have earned the right to play in the EFL, just like us.

They’re too little. They don’t have the stadium, infrastructure, resource, fan base or history to contribute anything.

Quoted from 123614

And why not?  They have earned the right to play in the EFL, just like us.

I'd agree with that - if Solihull had beaten us they'd have deserved to be in the Football League, 'tinpot' or not. Otherwise, what's the point in promotion and relegation?

Quoted from Mappers

I would much rather we keep improving ,under the radar with Jason & Andrews intellectual capital than what Wrexham have ; I do not even envy them and feel like they deserve to get a bit of glory , they were and have always been a proper club .

I would only see a need to be upset if we were in a bad place and they were enjoying the riches we would not have .

We have 2 lifelong fans at the helm who will always have that .
We are the fortunate ones.

Once Wrexham reach League 1, they will require even more funding to succeed, and then The Championship is on another level to compete. It will be interesting to see what happens to Wrexham once their owners sell up.

I understand the argument and I know my view is flawed, but nevertheless, I just don’t want titchy little tinpot outfits in the EFL.

Quoted from chaos33

I understand the argument and I know my view is flawed, but nevertheless, I just don’t want titchy little tinpot outfits in the EFL.

But they have the chance and the right to grow, right?

Yes, I’m not arguing the right of them to be promoted.
You earn your place in any league on merit and it needs to be an open equation - I’m just saying, I don’t want the likes of Woking and Solihull etc in the EFL, for the reasons stated. They don’t belong there any more than we belong in the premiership.

Solihull play in a car park in the middle of nowhere next to the runway for Birmingham airport. The closest boozer is in a Holiday Inn 20 minutes walk along a dual carriageway away. It's better for everyone they're still in non-league.

Quoted from chaos33

Yes, I’m not arguing the right of them to be promoted.
You earn your place in any league on merit and it needs to be an open equation - I’m just saying, I don’t want the likes of Woking and Solihull etc in the EFL, for the reasons stated. They don’t belong there any more than we belong in the premiership.

I wonder if people said that about Brentford and Bournemouth a number of years ago.

Probably not, because they’re long established league clubs with stadiums and support bases that can sustain that. Yours is a ‘straw man’ argument.
These titchy clubs are barely more than part time, with tiny stadiums, no decent facilities and little to no home or away support. They belong where they are, and Notts county, Wrexham, Chesterfield etc belong in the EFL.

Losing

45 seconds.

Against the best defensive team.

I'm surprised it's not being shown live on all bbc n sky channels with multiple commentators n pundits simultaneously bashing 1 out

Wonder if Rishi will announce a national day of mourning if the feck it up?

1-1

Erico playing for the Wood. A rare Sousa winner would be amusing 😅😂

There will be some worried sheep in North Wales tonight

Wrexham and Notts County are going to be favourites for promotion to League One next season. Assuming County get promoted. Next season looks tougher on paper than this one?

Sousa's had a difficult game.

That's that then .
Two class strikes from their main player today.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Once Wrexham reach League 1, they will require even more funding to succeed, and then The Championship is on another level to compete. It will be interesting to see what happens to Wrexham once their owners sell up.

But thats any club who move through , if we went up there would be a  massive shortfall  to cover just to compete (look at Lincoln ).

I don't think when they sell up Wrexham will suddenly go pop they have a decent support base and would probably average 12 to 15k in league 1 which would mean they could compete  even without super investment.

I am more envious of the funding they are getting for their new stand tbh .

I can see them leaving Wrexham in a better place than they found it when they do decide to leave , i expect them to top out at league 1 with the odd flirt with the Champ , unless they find  more people who will invest even more heavily to take them  right through .

On a sidenote - i was sad to see Hartlepool all but relegated today , thought their fans were brilliant when they came to BP and was hoping for them to come back in their numbers next season ; instead we will have about 50 creep Crawleys .

Quoted from Mappers

But thats any club who move through , if we went up there would be a  massive shortfall  to cover just to compete (look at Lincoln ).

I don't think when they sell up Wrexham will suddenly go pop they have a decent support base and would probably average 12 to 15k in league 1 which would mean they could compete  even without super investment.

I am more envious of the funding they are getting for their new stand tbh .

I can see them leaving Wrexham in a better place than they found it when they do decide to leave , i expect them to top out at league 1 with the odd flirt with the Champ , unless they find  more people who will invest even more heavily to take them  right through .

On a sidenote - i was sad to see Hartlepool all but relegated today , thought their fans were brilliant when they came to BP and was hoping for them to come back in their numbers next season ; instead we will have about 50 creep Crawleys .

I wasn’t too worried about Hartlepool, their support has given us quite a lot of sh1t over the years.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I wasn’t too worried about Hartlepool, their support has given us quite a lot of sh1t over the years.

Yeah they have Herts , just like that they are well supported away from home , if Bradford ,Stockport or/and  Mansfied
go up we will only be looking at 3 or 4 bringing decent numbers - all the ones coming  down from league 1 have never travelled well, whoever it is who drops . FGR , Morecambe and Accrington are double figure types.

I would be more upset at losing a well supported team like Hartlepool in years gone by where we struggled to get 4000 home fans to attend. These days, the likes of Crawley present an opportunity for more town fans to attend as we can give them the smaller partition of the Osmond.

Quoted from Mappers

Yeah they have Herts , just like that they are well supported away from home , if Bradford ,Stockport or/and  Mansfied
go up we will only be looking at 3 or 4 bringing decent numbers - all the ones coming  down from league 1 have never travelled well, whoever it is who drops . FGR , Morecambe and Accrington are double figure types.

Wrexham will bring a load as will Notts providing they go up. Brining numbers shouldn’t be forgiveness for years of sh1thousery, we should know that.

If Wrexham improve at the back they will walk League 2 next year.

Quoted from Mappers

But thats any club who move through , if we went up there would be a  massive shortfall  to cover just to compete (look at Lincoln ).

I don't think when they sell up Wrexham will suddenly go pop they have a decent support base and would probably average 12 to 15k in league 1 which would mean they could compete  even without super investment.

I am more envious of the funding they are getting for their new stand tbh .

I can see them leaving Wrexham in a better place than they found it when they do decide to leave , i expect them to top out at league 1 with the odd flirt with the Champ , unless they find  more people who will invest even more heavily to take them  right through .

On a sidenote - i was sad to see Hartlepool all but relegated today , thought their fans were brilliant when they came to BP and was hoping for them to come back in their numbers next season ; instead we will have about 50 creep Crawleys .

I’m not arsed either way about Wrexham and I’m certainly not impressed by their points tally. They failed last year, miserably really. Last year there were 4/5 teams who were well funded and spent big, with realistic chances of promotion…this year there’s only ever been two.

Were it not for Hollywood nobody would care, and in truth, nobody does, much like Salford, it’s being fed to folk. I doubt anyone supporting a team in league 1 and above has barely raised a murmur, much like last year, and the year before that and so on…

As for Hartlepool, it seems they’ve literally followed the GTFC of old blueprint. Make mistakes, go down. Fight to get out, succeed and then just revert to type. They’ve struggled all year, they dragged themselves into touching distance then lost the one game they really didn’t wanna lose and we’re gonna have to go to flipping Crawley next year…

Quoted from HerveJosse

If Wrexham improve at the back they will walk League 2 next year.

I'm no so convinced while Parkinson's in charge.

This isn't taking anything away from Wrexham, but I also think the National League was much weaker than the season before. Us and Stockport swapped for Oldham and Scunny who were both in turmoil. Solihull struggling as funds run out. I don't think it's a coincidence that two teams have amassed record-breaking points totals.

That being said, they're obviously still really strong and you'd think at least play offs material

The biggest losers here are the National League, they will get zero coverage next year as there will be no big story in tin pot. Unless of course someone buys a club and creates a story that means the lazy media can get to the pub earlier each afternoon.

Quoted from Mariner93er

I'm no so convinced while Parkinson's in charge.

This isn't taking anything away from Wrexham, but I also think the National League was much weaker than the season before. Us and Stockport swapped for Oldham and Scunny who were both in turmoil. Solihull struggling as funds run out. I don't think it's a coincidence that two teams have amassed record-breaking points totals.

That being said, they're obviously still really strong and you'd think at least play offs material

This is very much my take on it, but admittedly, I’ve taken zero interest in watching games at that level this season. It’s bad enough when you’re down there.

It does seem that from the very beginning it was Wrexham v County for the title, so when you couple that with the cash they’ve spent, crowd sizes, coverage and in Wrexham’s case, the external factors raising their profile to a level that Chad and Junior in some made up town in the US are wasting dollars on a shirt because a Hollywood actor bought a tinpot club, it’s really not a surprise.

I’d imagine, having seen last years conference, that th surprise is Barnet and Woking having great seasons. As you say, two fairly big sized clubs with solid fan bases and in our cases, relative stability in ownership, albeit fresh for us were replaced with two basket cases on a downward trajectory…

Not sure about Wrexham walking it. They’ll do well no doubt, but they’re not going to be playing against teams who’ll roll over for them next season, and they’ve painted a massive target on their own backs. Salford found that out, different prospect when everyone wants to beat you & has half a chance - even with 4 promotion spots they’ve still not managed to get out yet.

Congratulations to the true Wrexham fans who were there 15 years ago and stuck with them. 7 years in total in football’s toilet was bad enough for us - imagine doing double that.

Wrexham vs Salford and the return are absolutely nailed on to be played in the September and March international breaks for Sky’s token League 2 games next season. Not arsed about losing Hartlepool as they’re one of those sets of fans who give themselves the best fans in the land title but get really excited taking only a thousand anywhere.

Quoted from ska face

Not sure about Wrexham walking it. They’ll do well no doubt, but they’re not going to be playing against teams who’ll roll over for them next season, and they’ve painted a massive target on their own backs. Salford found that out, different prospect when everyone wants to beat you & has half a chance - even with 4 promotion spots they’ve still not managed to get out yet.

That’s certainly a possible outcome. To play devil’s advocate though, to my knowledge only two sides have won the conference with more than 100 points (Wrexham will finish on 113 if they win their last job game) - Crawley with 105 and Fleetwood the following year with 103.

Crawley went straight up to League One the following season; Fleetwood needed two years. Both bankrolled of course, but Wrexham are in points terms the best non-league team of all time (and ironically Notts County the second best, and may yet not go up). They are a far more attractive proposition than Crawley and Fleetwood, too - the ability to offer both money and the opportunity to fraternise with Hollywood darlings, as well as playing in front of some kind of crowd.

There’s a lot about the modern Wrexham I don’t like. There are a few bits about them that I can tolerate. And there are one or two things I genuinely respect, not least their fans’ donations ahead of our play-off final last season.

But history suggests that though they might not find League Two a cake walk, they’ll probably do alright. In terms of our promotion hopes next season, it makes things a little harder. I’ll be surprised if they’re not top 3 next season, and astounded if they’re not top 7.

I’d be really interested to know exactly how many Wrexham fans gave to that appeal. I’ve always felt like they got a bit too much credit for it.

The few bits I’ve seen of them away from when we’ve played them makes me think their current squad will be competitive but we know they’ll add a few and I’d expect them to do their shopping early.

I guess the difference next season will be they’ll be a good half a dozen sides who’ll be able to play against them and out muscle them in the process, in the NL there a couple of teams who can do that but not as many as in L2.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The few bits I’ve seen of them away from when we’ve played them makes me think their current squad will be competitive but we know they’ll add a few and I’d expect them to do their shopping early.

I guess the difference next season will be they’ll be a good half a dozen sides who’ll be able to play against them and out muscle them in the process, in the NL there a couple of teams who can do that but not as many as in L2.

I think Ben Foster will stay to get a full season of GoPro footage for the American audience to watch and boost his media profile.

You'd expect Wrexham to sign a few more League One players at the very least, possibly one or two from the Championship, so they ought to be pretty competitive next season. It really depends just how much money the owners want to chuck at it.

Quoted from Maringer

You'd expect Wrexham to sign a few more League One players at the very least, possibly one or two from the Championship, so they ought to be pretty competitive next season. It really depends just how much money the owners want to chuck at it.

As a loan with 7% interest though...

Just looked at BBC sport and there are 4 different articles focused on Wrexham from the main home page. Absolutely ridiculous. Nothing highlighting the extreme amount of money spent, only how awesome the owners are.

I would absolutely love them to get relegated next year.  Stuff their long suffering fans,  the whole exposure has gone way over the top.

Can see McAtee on loan at Wrexham next year or possibly Stockport if they go up

It;s all a bit OTT.  Thet are the Man U of the lower leagues.   Was out with colleagues the other day and two of the female teachers were talking about them!  Why not go down to your local side and support them - HCMC.  - granted Wrexham play better football than HCMC.   It's so fickle.

Money money money.

Quoted from Mayaman

It;s all a bit OTT.  Thet are the Man U of the lower leagues.   Was out with colleagues the other day and two of the female teachers were talking about them!  Why not go down to your local side and support them - HCMC.  - granted Wrexham play better football than HCMC.   It's so fickle.

My mates girlfriend announced the other week she's a Wrexham fan now. She didn't even know we beat them in the playoffs last year.

I'm in a massive last man standing group chat and the original small group/ admin are all Wrexham fans. Some great videos of before and after the game in and around Wrexham.

Quoted from HarrogateMariner

Just looked at BBC sport and there are 4 different articles focused on Wrexham from the main home page. Absolutely ridiculous. Nothing highlighting the extreme amount of money spent, only how awesome the owners are.

I would absolutely love them to get relegated next year.  Stuff their long suffering fans,  the whole exposure has gone way over the top.

Salford, Bournemouth spring to mind…ignore the truth and promote a ‘small club does well story’…it’s predictable now. Nothing they’ve done is anymore impressive than what other teams have done, they’ve accrued enough points to gain promotion, fair play but when you’ve splashed serious cash, made a TV programme which, if I’m honest, was weird and a bit excrement and you’ve tapped into a market in America for soccerball fans, they should’ve gone up.

So that’s Orient, Rochdale, Hartlepool and probably Northampton & Stevenage out.

Forest Green, Wrexham in. Any 3 of Mk Dons, Cambridge, Morecambe, Oxford or Accrington coming down, and 1 from Notts County, Woking, Chesterfield, Barnet, Bromley or Borehamwood to come up.

Also going to be losing a northern team in the L2 playoffs.

Ideal world, probably Morecambe, Cambs & Accrington down, Notts County up, Stockport out.

Quoted from Mayaman

It;s all a bit OTT.  Thet are the Man U of the lower leagues.   Was out with colleagues the other day and two of the female teachers were talking about them!  Why not go down to your local side and support them - HCMC.  - granted Wrexham play better football than HCMC.   It's so fickle.

Exactly glory seekers will latch on much like they did with UTD , many now defecting to City after their change in fortune I have always referred to these followers as 'floaters' people who just follow whichever team is in vogue at the time .

The media cream over them in an almost infactuated kind of way .

The problem for Wrexham next season is they will be 'the team to beat ' so against the wildly inconsistent teams in league 2 who will invariably raise their game , Wales FC may well not find it as easy as everybody thinks .

Quoted from HarrogateMariner

Just looked at BBC sport and there are 4 different articles focused on Wrexham from the main home page. Absolutely ridiculous. Nothing highlighting the extreme amount of money spent, only how awesome the owners are.

I would absolutely love them to get relegated next year.  Stuff their long suffering fans,  the whole exposure has gone way over the top.

You miserable git

Any publicity for lower league football is good for all at this level.

Quoted from LH

I’d be really interested to know exactly how many Wrexham fans gave to that appeal. I’ve always felt like they got a bit too much credit for it.

FFS! If one donated we should be praising them.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Any publicity for lower league football is good for all at this level.

Exactly correct. I bet the exposure of Wrexham has helped more than just Wrexham.  I'm all for it . If Tom Cruise arrived in Grimsby with a plan for the club similar to what going on at Wrexham you'd have to be the most miserable, boring , sad  person not to want to be part of that . Although we have a section of fans who would much prefer to stay as we are and moan about poor old Grimsby.  Wrexham's owners mean business, those tears weren't fake Hollywood tears , they were the tears of men who have fallen in love with Football ⚽⚽

Ah the true fans I wish them well - They've had more misery than most and deserve a bit of success. I do dislike the media obsession though its grating - they have effectively bought the league - it's not actually a great story.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

FFS! If one donated we should be praising them.

My point is it’s made out they donated every penny of the fund which isn’t the case at all.

Quoted from It Bites

Exactly correct. I bet the exposure of Wrexham has helped more than just Wrexham.  I'm all for it . If Tom Cruise arrived in Grimsby with a plan for the club similar to what going on at Wrexham you'd have to be the most miserable, boring , sad  person not to want to be part of that . Although we have a section of fans who would much prefer to stay as we are and moan about poor old Grimsby.  Wrexham's owners mean business, those tears weren't fake Hollywood tears , they were the tears of men who have fallen in love with Football ⚽⚽

Not for me.

If we had all of the media circus around us that they have, and a load of yanks spouting nonsense on every one of the clubs social media posts, it wouldn’t feel like my club anymore.

We may be generally naff to support in terms of footballing success, but the club is still a huge part of so many of our lives, and it’s truly ours. Hundreds of thousands of TikTok followers crawling all over us, access to tickets being a nightmare and pre season publicity tours to the US would somewhat dilute that exclusivity in my eyes.

Quoted from It Bites

Exactly correct. I bet the exposure of Wrexham has helped more than just Wrexham.  I'm all for it . If Tom Cruise arrived in Grimsby with a plan for the club similar to what going on at Wrexham you'd have to be the most miserable, boring , sad  person not to want to be part of that . Although we have a section of fans who would much prefer to stay as we are and moan about poor old Grimsby.  Wrexham's owners mean business, those tears weren't fake Hollywood tears , they were the tears of men who have fallen in love with Football ⚽⚽

Ryan is learning.  Now, he gives credit to other teams .  At the beginning he just bigged up wrexham.

One Yank, one Canadian!

If they thought getting out the NL was a tough ask and a big investment then I hope they are ready for the hellscape of L2. Though they'll start with the advantage of all the interest around them to generate revenue. I imagine a lot of their matches will be picked up for TV and they'll have steady streaming income from overseas now they've escaped that rubbish deal the NL signed with BT Sports.

The fans should enjoy it because they spent so long trapped in that league. They went down the season before we did and in the time it took for them to go back up we got promoted, fell back down and got promoted again at their expense. Yeah it's not fun looking at other teams with big shot owners who buy from two leagues above for big money while we struggle to scrape a team together from freebies and loans and try to claw our way into a respectable position. I think Wrexham fans have had to suffer crap enough for them to enjoy themselves though.

So Wrexham are going to the USA in the summer where they will be playing Chelsea and Man Utd. I wonder if they will complaining about not getting a break if it doesn’t end well next season

What’s the money on town v Wrexham first game of the season.

Or maybe Wrexham v Salford for those at tv central to be creaming over

Just listened to Humphrey Ker on talksport. Never heard of him but apparently he’s an actor and director of Wrexham
Sensible, grounded and likeable character
Quoting Luton, Brentford and Brighton as the model. Claims they sold 25000 shirts this season and have ordered 35000 for next season so revenue won’t be the main challenge

Quoted from HerveJosse

So Wrexham are going to the USA in the summer where they will be playing Chelsea and Man Utd. I wonder if they will complaining about not getting a break if it doesn’t end well next season

I tend not to get too flustered about the Wrexham media circus. It is what it is - a story that elicits interest from individuals who wouldn’t normally engage with the level Wrexham are at, or even with football at all. Good luck to them, at the end of the day.

But every now and then you see a story, or nugget within a story, that makes you cringe just a little bit. Take this for example; a seemingly sad yet heart-warming story about a terminally ill Wrexham fan, having his dying wish of meeting Ryan Reynolds granted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65365433

On the surface, there’s not much to aim at there. How can you take a swipe at some Hollywood star taking the time to meet a dying fan? Good on the bloke. But then I got to this bit:

Quoted Text

Mr Fear, from Southampton, said his family would remember it forever.

Mr Fear had become a fan of Wrexham after watching the Disney+ documentary Welcome to Wrexham, which has charted the takeover of the club by Reynolds and fellow actor Rob McElhenney.

This is the sort of thing Wrexham need to be careful with in the long-term. People don’t like Man Utd, in part, because of the large % of their following that have no meaningful or geographical connection with the club. Like Man Yoo, money from such people is as good as anyone else’s, but if I were a genuine, long-standing Wrexham fan, this kind of disingenuous appropriation would begin to irk me.

Quoted from Sconeboy

Not for me.

If we had all of the media circus around us that they have, and a load of yanks spouting nonsense on every one of the clubs social media posts, it wouldn’t feel like my club anymore.

We may be generally naff to support in terms of footballing success, but the club is still a huge part of so many of our lives, and it’s truly ours. Hundreds of thousands of TikTok followers crawling all over us, access to tickets being a nightmare and pre season publicity tours to the US would somewhat dilute that exclusivity in my eyes.

I wouldn't say we're naff to support, yes we've had a few awful years under a terrible owner but how many other clubs fans at my age (35) can say they've visited and won at Liverpool, Wembley (a few times!), old wembley, Southampton and visited (but lost) at millennium stadium, arsenal, Brighton (all off the top of my head).
We've had some awful seasons and miserable away days (Oldham being my worst) but had some fantastic ones to.

Quoted from lukeo

I wouldn't say we're naff to support, yes we've had a few awful years under a terrible owner but how many other clubs fans at my age (35) can say they've visited and won at Liverpool, Wembley (a few times!), old wembley, Southampton and visited (but lost) at millennium stadium, arsenal, Brighton (all off the top of my head).
We've had some awful seasons and miserable away days (Oldham being my worst) but had some fantastic ones to.

In my time as a fan we have also won at Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, Wolves, and beaten Spurs, Leicester, Man City and many other top clubs at BP.

Quoted from RonMariner

In my time as a fan we have also won at Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, Wolves, and beaten Spurs, Leicester, Man City and many other top clubs at BP.

Don't forget winning at Middlesborough too when they were top-half of Division One whilst we were languishing near the bottom of Division Four!

Quoted from Les Brechin

Don't forget winning at Middlesborough too when they were top-half of Division One whilst we were languishing near the bottom of Division Four!

This result never got the acclaim/attention it should of. I think it was the same day Sutton beat Coventry????

Quoted from buckstown

Just listened to Humphrey Ker on talksport. Never heard of him but apparently he’s an actor and director of Wrexham
Sensible, grounded and likeable character
Quoting Luton, Brentford and Brighton as the model. Claims they sold 25000 shirts this season and have ordered 35000 for next season so revenue won’t be the main challenge

I like that Humphrey guy, he was the reason they got into football as they could see he was obsessed. Still not sure why he advised them to go for Wrexham though, but fair play to him, it’s working.

The new fans are only used to them winning games. No doubt the new American fans who don’t know their offside from their backside will be a bit shocked if they get beaten 5 or 6 nil by Chelsea and Man U on their US trip as they should . What happens then?

I find the wrexham circus totally irritating TBH Final score never read out any non league scores until Hollywood turned up

And still it goes on.

Yet another Wrexham story on the BBC website today. Lost count of how many they have done in the past week.

Apparently, the "sky's the limit" and they will be going for a second promotion next season. Well no sh1t, a football team that wants promotion.

Quoted from Heisenberg

I like that Humphrey guy, he was the reason they got into football as they could see he was obsessed. Still not sure why he advised them to go for Wrexham though, but fair play to him, it’s working.

I think there’s a bit more to the story than that, but Wrexham will have been one of relatively few candidates, I suspect. Crucially, any prospective club would have had to be fan owned - they wouldn’t have wanted loads of dead capital going to a private owner. As a starting point, that only gives you Wimbledon, Newport, Exeter and Wrexham, to the best of my knowledge.

Wimbledon already had a story of their own and Newport’s ground is owned by the Welsh RFU, leaving only Exeter and Wrexham. Exeter may have made sense given the airport nearby, but I suspect Wrexham were a) cheaper to buy and b) the better story - the once proud league club long since banished to non-league. It’s also more working class than Exeter; reinvigorating a deprived and forlorn community adds to the narrative.

I imagine they were always the standout if not only candidate.  

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And still it goes on.

Yet another Wrexham story on the BBC website today. Lost count of how many they have done in the past week.

Apparently, the "sky's the limit" and they will be going for a second promotion next season. Well no sh1t, a football team that wants promotion.

It was BREAKING NEWS on BBC News on Saturday night ffs, and described as "a fairy tale"!

I can't remember Stockport County's promotion being BREAKING NEWS!

Tossers!

Mind you there was a time when BREAKING NEWS was reserved for something major!

Quoted from ginnywings

And still it goes on.

Yet another Wrexham story on the BBC website today. Lost count of how many they have done in the past week.

Apparently, the "sky's the limit" and they will be going for a second promotion next season. Well no sh1t, a football team that wants promotion.

Would rather read that from my club hierarchy than....
" To avoid relegation and consolidate " .

Quoted from Teesknees

It was BREAKING NEWS on BBC News on Saturday night ffs, and described as "a fairy tale"!

I can't remember Stockport County's promotion being BREAKING NEWS!

Tossers!

Mind you there was a time when BREAKING NEWS was reserved for something major!

I like the show, I like the owners, but yeah, I’m with you. With their budget, if they hadn’t gone up it would have been abject failure.

This is news worthy, yes, but no more than Stockport or us last season.

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This result never got the acclaim/attention it should of. I think it was the same day Sutton beat Coventry????

It was. If that result didn't happen, Town's game would have got far more media attention than it did.

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I tend not to get too flustered about the Wrexham media circus. It is what it is - a story that elicits interest from individuals who wouldn’t normally engage with the level Wrexham are at, or even with football at all. Good luck to them, at the end of the day.

But every now and then you see a story, or nugget within a story, that makes you cringe just a little bit. Take this for example; a seemingly sad yet heart-warming story about a terminally ill Wrexham fan, having his dying wish of meeting Ryan Reynolds granted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65365433

On the surface, there’s not much to aim at there. How can you take a swipe at some Hollywood star taking the time to meet a dying fan? Good on the bloke. But then I got to this bit:


This is the sort of thing Wrexham need to be careful with in the long-term. People don’t like Man Utd, in part, because of the large % of their following that have no meaningful or geographical connection with the club. Like Man Yoo, money from such people is as good as anyone else’s, but if I were a genuine, long-standing Wrexham fan, this kind of disingenuous appropriation would begin to irk me.

What irked me the most in that (very heartwarming) story was this bit:

"This wish is the hardest, took the most amount of volunteer hours and cost the most in almost ten years of us granting wishes."

I just don’t see what they’ve done as being impressive. It’s football, next year someone will get promoted, and the following year and so on. Are we meant to be impressed? It’s not even the first time Wrexham have smashed the 100 points barrier.

It’s not bitterness or jealousy, more the frustration at the ongoing media circus regarding something that happens every year. It’s no more impressive than Orient going up, Burnley absolutely smashing a league thats notoriously difficult to get out of…

Quoted from buckstown

Quoting Luton, Brentford and Brighton as the model. Claims they sold 25000 shirts this season and have ordered 35000 for next season so revenue won’t be the main challenge

For now.  

What happens when the global interest in Wrexham fades and those 35000 shirts sold drops to 3500 and they've still got players on massive contracts with a couple of years to run?

Exactly.

Game of Thrones was the biggest thing on the planet for a couple of years - then it went shíte and the people who were changing their names to Johnny Dothraki & wearing wolf pelts have all completely disappeared. This Welcome to Wrexham show has tapped into the same fanbase of typical American losers who get into debates about who would win in a fight between Batman & Spiderman, who are peformatively obsessed over a certain cultural phenomenon, but can and will drop it overnight. How long can the project be artificially sustained and propped up once the steam inevitably runs out?

Football clubs appeal to a different set of sad acts, to which we sadly belong, who are unfortunately doomed to support our clubs even when it’s not fashionable, interesting or enjoyable.

If they can end up financially sustainable then good for them, and they definitely need to make hay while the sun shines, because nothing ever lasts forever.

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I think there’s a bit more to the story than that, but Wrexham will have been one of relatively few candidates, I suspect. Crucially, any prospective club would have had to be fan owned - they wouldn’t have wanted loads of dead capital going to a private owner. As a starting point, that only gives you Wimbledon, Newport, Exeter and Wrexham, to the best of my knowledge.

Wimbledon already had a story of their own and Newport’s ground is owned by the Welsh RFU, leaving only Exeter and Wrexham. Exeter may have made sense given the airport nearby, but I suspect Wrexham were a) cheaper to buy and b) the better story - the once proud league club long since banished to non-league. It’s also more working class than Exeter; reinvigorating a deprived and forlorn community adds to the narrative.

Can imagine Exeter's fans wouldn't have been keen based on what happened the last time they went down the 'celeb owner' route:
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I quite enjoyed the first series of the show but, truth be told, I only watched it because I knew the ending!

Might watch the second series but I don't have a huge amount of interest in it.

I'm probably not the target market, however.

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This Welcome to Wrexham show has tapped into the same fanbase of typical American losers who get into debates about who would win in a fight between Batman & Spiderman, who are peformatively obsessed over a certain cultural phenomenon, but can and will drop it overnight.

Spiderman would - no debate to be had!