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Quoted from pen penfras

You think there's not much difference between 2k and 3k a week? Unless you're a millionaire, there's a massive difference.

In relative terms, its not, 2k on 3 years or 3k on 2 years?. Equates the same but for a footballer an extra year of security means more, allows them to settle, get kids in school, build a social life....small gains but be the difference during contract negotiations.

Quoted from pen penfras

You can look at it like that, or like our form is 23rd over the last 10 games. Slade had us in the playoffs at the end of November the season we nearly went down. The teams down at the bottom are improving, if we don't then relegation is a real possibility.

Not that I think we will go down, but there's some misguided optimism that we're nailed on to stay up because the bottom teams were so bad for the first 15 or so games, they're spending to fix that and we aren't. Our confidence from the end of last season is well and truly gone. Promoted sides are often worse in the second half of the season when the bounce is over and the other teams figure them out.

I'm fairly confident the only time we occupied a play off spot that season was after the opening day win at Chesterfield. Other than that our highest league position that season was 11th. Am I wrong?

Quoted from Nutsy

I would like to see Paul be more adventurous with the line up, rather than inviting pressure and playing to defend first.

O'Neill
Khan-McAtee-Kiernan
Clifton Hunt
Glennon-Maher-Smith-Efete
Crocombe

Something like the above, and utilise Clifton's pressing and energy.

No idea why Hunt is not getting a look as we paid a fee and he could be a difference maker in tight games. I admit we need to improve defensively and we are still waiting for the elusive striker..

Green in for mcatee and I agree with you. 433/4123.
McAtee has undoubted talent but he's been way off these past few games. Noone is undroppable, we need 11 hard working battling players.

Quoted from lukeo

Green in for mcatee and I agree with you. 433/4123.
McAtee has undoubted talent but he's been way off these past few games. Noone is undroppable, we need 11 hard working battling players.

Green in for McAtee?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

In relative terms, its not, 2k on 3 years or 3k on 2 years?. Equates the same but for a footballer an extra year of security means more, allows them to settle, get kids in school, build a social life....small gains but be the difference during contract negotiations.

Come on, nobody in their right mind takes 2k for 3 years over 3k for 2 years. There's the gamble that you might get injured and you've lost a bit of money by paying more tax but every person on this forum would take that gamble.

Quoted from chaos33

Can you give us some examples of the money spent/players signed by Rochdale, Hartlepool, Harrogate, Crawley etc and your assessment on the quality of those players so we can start a balanced assessment of who’s doing what, and don’t get sucked into an alarmist, negative, moany swamp.

You can’t, can you penfras.

Quoted from 123614

@ pen penfras.  Sorry to pick you out, but your post was the last I read.

So, hypothetically, if you were the Manager of GTFC, how would you go about buying a suitable striker for the team?

Lets see, you know the striker you want and you make a bid to the club for X amount of money.  The club turns it down so after much thought you offer them XX amount, again it is turned down.  So you add a couple of clauses and a few more XX's, and the cub accepts the bid, HURRAH!

Now you have to speak to the player about his contract, after 3 attempts to entice him to the club with very good weekly wage offers, in fact the top wage earner in the club, he refuses and wants more.  You can't pay him any more, so it's a No Sale.

What if this same scenario happens two or three times with different players, maybe with different reasons not to sign, what do you do then?

I would think I am in the wrong job

Quoted from pontoonlew

I like that people have different points of view and I enjoy the debate that brings (except maybe with you, given how much you take everything to heart).

What boils my urine is when opinions are lambasted as negative and just dismissed. People are paying damn good money for this and it’s absolutely abysmal.

I get the anger and frustration, and you're right to voice it, but all fans pay good money to watch their team and they can't all be winning games every week, that's how a league structure works.

For every good side, there are two that are not so good. There's the top eight, the mid table eight, which we are in, just, and the bottom eight, two of whom will be relegated into the abyss.

We've been in this league for half a season and are above sides who have been established a lot longer in it than we have. Their fans pay good money too, but as fans, we support the team and hope for the best. If we are still struggling at the end of the season, then yeah, have a rant, but there is a long way to go yet.

We have games in hand, a slightly more agreeable set of fixtures coming up and 2 weeks left of the window, so I'd say it's not yet abysmal myself.

Quoted from immariner

This season is a bonus season when you look at where we were at this point last season and the 95th minute at Notts County. We're not getting relegated, it's as simple as that. Obviously I'd prefer it if we were challenging for the play offs but we're not. Unnecessary drama

How come all these other clubs seem to carry the momentum of promotion into a new season and gain a further promotion or have a good go at it at least?
We have no ambition from the manager or owners other than to "consolidate" our position, why? Why not kick on whilst we had the chance, oh wait, we failed to prepare by not signing decent players despite the likes of desi and Abrahams wanting to stay.
I would of fancied us to do something with those two up front instead of the children loanees which other more savvy clubs seem to lumber us with to "toughen them up" we can't afford to keep making the same mistakes every season if we are to progress.
Other clubs can do it, even the gimps did it.

Quoted from Phil the cod

How come all these other clubs seem to carry the momentum of promotion into a new season and gain a further promotion or have a good go at it at least?
We have no ambition from the manager or owners other than to "consolidate" our position, why? Why not kick on whilst we had the chance, oh wait, we failed to prepare by not signing decent players despite the likes of desi and Abrahams wanting to stay.
I would of fancied us to do something with those two up front instead of the children loanees which other more savvy clubs seem to lumber us with to "toughen them up" we can't afford to keep making the same mistakes every season if we are to progress.
Other clubs can do it, even the gimps did it.

Sorry, but the Gimps "consolidated" for a season and then went up the following one.

For every club that gets a second promotion, there are at least 2 that don't. Where are Hartlepool for instance? Newport etc etc.

York got back in the league, then plummeted back 2 more.