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It Bites
November 16, 2022, 5:51pm
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No wonder he didn't get in the England squad . He has been charged now . See you next season you bell end
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No wonder he didn't get in the England squad . He has been charged now . See you next season you bell end


Ivan The Terrible
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No wonder he didn't get in the England squad . He has been charged now . See you next season you bell end


Any issue with Grealish being in the squad? Maguire?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Any issue with Grealish being in the squad? Maguire?


Nope
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I love how people instantly presume he’s match fixing etc. In reality it’ll be bets on games he didn’t even play in, ridiculous rule IMO
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I love how people instantly presume he’s match fixing etc. In reality it’ll be bets on games he didn’t even play in, ridiculous rule IMO


Who presumed that ? . Rules are Rules and he's to thick to follow a simple rule then he deserves all he's going to get
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November 16, 2022, 8:57pm
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Quoted from pontoonlew
I love how people instantly presume he’s match fixing etc. In reality it’ll be bets on games he didn’t even play in, ridiculous rule IMO


The fact he played against Man City last weekend add a lot of weight to your theory. I can't imagine he would have played if the charges were at the match fixing end of the betting scale.
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November 16, 2022, 9:38pm
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Pfft. Andi Thanoj was loads better at it:

https://www.theguardian.com/fo.....eaches-betting-rules
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Funny how the powers that be dont care when half the big clubs have deals with gambling companies

Brentford themselves sponsored by Hollywood bets

The SKY BET Football league….
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Quoted from Hagrid
Funny how the powers that be dont care when half the big clubs have deals with gambling companies

Brentford themselves sponsored by Hollywood bets

The SKY BET Football league….


It's a weird one isn't it?

The players can't bet but so many play in a competition sponsored by a bookmaker and so many of the big clubs have a gambling firm as a sponsor somewhere on the shirt that the players wear.

And then they wonder why the players end up betting on football...
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Ahhh! The power of advertising
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It's a weird one isn't it?

The players can't bet but so many play in a competition sponsored by a bookmaker and so many of the big clubs have a gambling firm as a sponsor somewhere on the shirt that the players wear.

And then they wonder why the players end up betting on football...


TBF, I’ve got a few Ciba-Geigy Town shirts and I’ve always just about managed to resist releasing toxic chemicals into my local river.
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The sheer irony, that someone  doesn't get on the plane for having a flutter. To the most corrupt sporting event EVER. Up there with Soci...🙄🙄
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Players all know they're not allowed to bet on football. No doubt the daft fucker had an account in his own name.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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TBF, I’ve got a few Ciba-Geigy Town shirts and I’ve always just about managed to resist releasing toxic chemicals into my local river.


Least we know you’re not one of our local MPs then…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Nope


So no issue with drink driving, assault and to be fair, Tripper was caught betting too…

It’s hard to have sympathy, I get that, but when a sport relies seemingly quite heavily on the money from gambling sites and bookmakers, and doesn’t seem to want to do anything about that, it’s easy to see why players do it…

I’ve never placed a bet in my life, out of interest, do other sports have similar rules?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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November 17, 2022, 7:04am
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So no issue with drink driving, assault and to be fair, Tripper was caught betting too…

It’s hard to have sympathy, I get that, but when a sport relies seemingly quite heavily on the money from gambling sites and bookmakers, and doesn’t seem to want to do anything about that, it’s easy to see why players do it…

I’ve never placed a bet in my life, out of interest, do other sports have similar rules?


For me the difference is that the others done their crime and served their time. If Toney had been in Qatar and this broke it would have caused massive issues in the press and calls for him to be sent home thus taking the focus within the group onto something they didn’t need.
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So no issue with drink driving, assault and to be fair, Tripper was caught betting too…

It’s hard to have sympathy, I get that, but when a sport relies seemingly quite heavily on the money from gambling sites and bookmakers, and doesn’t seem to want to do anything about that, it’s easy to see why players do it…

I’ve never placed a bet in my life, out of interest, do other sports have similar rules?


Tbh I don't care who goes on the plane as I support Brazil but I just think he's a bit thick
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Quoted from Hagrid
Funny how the powers that be dont care when half the big clubs have deals with gambling companies

Brentford themselves sponsored by Hollywood bets

The SKY BET Football league….


I get why they did it, to stop players betting on games theyre involved in etc...BUT...

This rule is the classic sledgehammer to crack a nut scenario, totally OTT, to the point that if you're a tea lady at Messingham U11 blind girls' team, you can't bet on *any* football *








* I may have exaggerated to make the point slightly



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I guess banning it completely stops anyone ringing their ex teammate and ‘doing a deal’ to throw a match
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Quoted from Abdul19
Players all know they're not allowed to bet on football. No doubt the daft fucker had an account in his own name.


IvanToney96 was his username. Surprised he managed to place so many bets before being caught.
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IvanToney96 was his username. Surprised he managed to place so many bets before being caught.


Should have called himself Tony Ivan69. That woulda fooled 'em.
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So no issue with drink driving, assault and to be fair, Tripper was caught betting too…

It’s hard to have sympathy, I get that, but when a sport relies seemingly quite heavily on the money from gambling sites and bookmakers, and doesn’t seem to want to do anything about that, it’s easy to see why players do it…

I’ve never placed a bet in my life, out of interest, do other sports have similar rules?


Rugby Union does, certainly, although the only well known case of it was when Wales assistant coach Rob Howley was dumped from the 2019 world cup when the allegations came out.  The only real shock there was that it took so long for official action to happen as word in the valleys was in the local bookies most days.  Nobody really cared until a rumour came out that he'd bet £6k on wales to lose, never found out if that was true or not but it turned opinion from 'he's not doing any harm' to 'hang, draw and quarter him'.

The weird thing about Toney is they charged him then let him play.  If there was anything serious about it he would have been dropped like a stone by the club surely.
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He's guilty, like many other footballers caught up in betting scandals, of stupidity rather than cheating or fixing.

I'm in complete agreement with those who are calling out the irony of a sport, pretty much propped up by the betting industry (and vice-versa in all truth), going in on tough on this.

You can also compare it to other sports that have a strong link with gambling, racing for example where jockeys, owners and trainers are very happy to spoon-feed information to punters and often game the markets themselves for future gain.

It's a stupid rule that needs refreshing in my opinion.  Toney betting on the outcome of Exeter v Oldham in 2019 is a ridiculous reason for him to miss out on a place at the World Cup.  
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Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles


TBF, I’ve got a few Ciba-Geigy Town shirts and I’ve always just about managed to resist releasing toxic chemicals into my local river.


Let alone my Brazilian club shirt that is sponsored by Coke.....


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Hope there's no fans of the Peruvian league here...

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It does make sense to not allow players to bet on their sport. Obviously not in games in which they are personally involved, but in any games at any level. Ivan Toney, as an example, will know quite a few players who play in the top five or six levels of the English game, maybe some playing lower down too, so the potential for match fixing is a lot greater than might at first seem apparent.
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The fact is that Ivan Benjamin Elijah Toney has the most ironic initials ever


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And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Hope there's no fans of the Peruvian league here...

[img]https://www.uksoccershop.com/images/WankaFront.jpg[/img]


Tell you what, Macchu fixing or no Macchu fixing, if someone forced me to wear that Peruvian kit I’d be Incandescent.
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Tell you what, Macchu fixing or no Macchu fixing, if someone forced me to wear that Peruvian kit I’d be Incandescent.


Oh god, how long til the season starts???

Oh wait...
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Oh god, how long til the season starts???

Oh wait...


Yes, that post was quite a-llama-ing.


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Quoted from jamesgtfc


It's a weird one isn't it?

The players can't bet but so many play in a competition sponsored by a bookmaker and so many of the big clubs have a gambling firm as a sponsor somewhere on the shirt that the players wear.

And then they wonder why the players end up betting on football...


But can't bet on the horse , the dogs or if it's gonna be a white Christmas?
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