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So Graham Rodger being demoted is the next person being moved aside like Ian Fleming was. His CEO job of the community department is being advertised. I guess that his token quote in the news article is a means to provide him with a bit of dignity whilst losing his job. Have to say though, that it probably is high time that they brought someone in of the calibre to take the community department to the levels that the new owners want, with all of their plans for community engagement and installing civic pride. https://gtfc.co.uk/vacancy-sports-education-trust-chief-executive-officer/ |
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I might be missing the point but where does it say he’s out of the door and he’s losing his job? I read it as the community side of things is expanding and Graham Rodger is still very much part of it. Mind you I’ve had a few glasses of wine so I may well be wrong. 🍷🍷🍷
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Hardly the words of a man getting his P45. Glad to see you're well enough to return to this forum with your finest stirring spoon.
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You’re really get GrimExile it doesn’t say that. If Felipe is right though, you have to wonder where he gets his information from.
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I might be missing the point but where does it say he’s out of the door and he’s losing his job? I read it as the community side of things is expanding and Graham Rodger is still very much part of it. Mind you I’ve had a few glasses of wine so I may well be wrong. 🍷🍷🍷
Isn’t he the existing CEO of the sports and education trust? It sort of mirrors what happened when they brought in a new CEO over Ian Fleming’s head. Then he departed soon after. |
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You’re really get GrimExile it doesn’t say that. If Felipe is right though, you have to wonder where he gets his information from.
I’ve just read the article. The man is commenting on an advert for someone to come in and do the job he’s already doing. He’s the current CEO at the community department |
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Says he’s the manager. Not CEO.
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Says he’s the manager. Not CEO.
Maybe he is now, but he’s been the CEO for a long time. Looks like a demotion then with someone coming in over his head |
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Isn’t he the existing CEO of the sports and education trust?
It sort of mirrors what happened when they brought in a new CEO over Ian Fleming’s head. Then he departed soon after.
According to the GTSET website he is GTSET Senior Manager and the Chief Executive of GTSET is Debbie Cook. Would you Adam and Eve it? [url]https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06500460/officers[/url] |
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Maybe he is now, but he’s been the CEO for a long time. Looks like a demotion then with someone coming in over his head
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You’re really get GrimExile it doesn’t say that. If Felipe is right though, you have to wonder where he gets his information from.
Sorry Kingston I don’t understand, have you been on the wine like me?!!! 🍷🍷🍷 |
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Maybe he is now, but he’s been the CEO for a long time. Looks like a demotion then with someone coming in over his head
So as James has pointed out Felipe, you are wrong. Check your facts first. It’s a good job you don’t have anything to do with the running of the club. You’d be making ballssups left, right and centre. |
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So as James has pointed out Felipe, you are wrong. Check your facts first. It’s a good job you don’t have anything to do with the running of the club. You’d be making ballssups left, right and centre.
The facts thing has always been ironic when coming from a Fentyite…especially with their leaders username. Irrelevant people creating a story or misinterpreting something to maintain some relevance in their own heads…bless… |
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So Graham Rodger is out the door and is the next person being moved aside like Ian Fleming was. His CEO job of the community department is being advertised. I guess that his token quote in the news article is a means to provide him with a bit of dignity whilst losing his job. Have to say though, that it probably is high time that they brought someone in of the calibre to take the community department to the levels that the new owners want, with all of their plans for community engagement and installing civic pride. https://gtfc.co.uk/vacancy-sports-education-trust-chief-executive-officer/
Hi Mr Business Man . I'm surprised it's taken this long to move some of the Old Guard on . Everyone has their time . The club is moving on at a fast pase a clean sweep has been needed for years . The club was stagnant |
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Hi Mr Business Man . I'm surprised it's taken this long to move some of the Old Guard on . Everyone has their time . The club is moving on at a fast pase a clean sweep has been needed for years . The club was stagnant
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To be honest, I’d agree. Whilst I’m sure some people have may be flourished under the regime given they’re probably not stifled by a megalomaniac anymore, many were seemingly happy to let the club go to excrement and not walk and make a point, be honest.
We all protect ourselves and jobs etc but to me, they were complicit in much of it. Sweep the lot of them away…
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😆 it was meant to say “you’re right GrimExile”. Fat fingers, not wine tonight I’m afraid.
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According to the GTSET website he is GTSET Senior Manager and the Chief Executive of GTSET is Debbie Cook. Would you Adam and Eve it?
[url]https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06500460/officers[/url]
That’s interesting. Then it’s definitely a demotion for him, as he was definitely the CEO for a number of years. Looks like Debbie has replaced him as CEO whilst they recruit for a replacement. |
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That’s interesting. Then it’s definitely a demotion for him, as he was definitely the CEO for a number of years.
Looks like Debbie has replaced him as CEO whilst they recruit for a replacement.
Debbie replaced Ian Fleming as Chief Executive of GTSET on 11th August 2021. So it seems your friend Debbie is recruiting for her own replacement at GTSET. |
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Who gives a toss really?
Yeovil away. Lets put on a performance and get 3 points! 👊 UTM
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There are countless articles where he was quoted as being the GTSET CEO. And up until recently, he was definitely listed as the CEO Here’s an example https://www.thescarboroughnews.....ar-award-2870805?amp
Funny that his name doesn't appear anywhere on the Companies House record though isn't it? Your mate Ian was Chief Executive of GTSET from 2008 until his resignation in August 2021. |
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Funny that his name doesn't appear anywhere on the Companies House record though isn't it? Your mate Ian was Chief Executive of GTSET from 2008 until his resignation in August 2021.
An executive management role doesn’t always mean an appointment as a company director, and so it wouldn’t necessarily mean a listing at companies house. But I agree, it is strange that Rodger has carried out the role of the CEO of GTSET for many years, even though it was Ian Fleming was listed as the CEO of the entity at companies house. I haven’t put in the effort to search any further, but perhaps there are multiple ways in which the organisation is structured, such as a limited company status, as well as things like a registered charity too. But whatever the circumstances, Rodger has been operating as the CEO in terms of how his role was portrayed, for a number of years. I hear too, that Paul Hurst dispensed with his services as Chief Scout this season. A position that he was appointed to by Russell Slade, that continued under Michael Jolley, Ian Holloway and initially when Hurst came back. |
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An executive management role doesn’t always mean an appointment as a company director, and so it wouldn’t necessarily mean a listing at companies house.
But I agree, it is strange that Rodger has carried out the role of the CEO of GTSET for many years, even though it was Ian Fleming was listed as the CEO of the entity at companies house.
I haven’t put in the effort to search any further, but perhaps there are multiple ways in which the organisation is structured, such as a limited company status, as well as things like a registered charity too. But whatever the circumstances, Rodger has been operating as the CEO in terms of how his role was portrayed, for a number of years.
I hear too, that Paul Hurst dispensed with his services as Chief Scout this season. A position that he was appointed to by Russell Slade, that continued under Michael Jolley, Ian Holloway and initially when Hurst came back.
Probably because Hurst and Doig never switch off and go watch games all over themselves |
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I hear too, that Paul Hurst dispensed with his services as Chief Scout this season. A position that he was appointed to by Russell Slade, that continued under Michael Jolley, Ian Holloway and initially when Hurst came back.
So Hurst doesn't agree with the concept of sentimental recruitment? I wouldn't be telling too many people that he was Chief Scout under Russell Slade and Ian Runaway in particular. Hardly a period of history that justifies continuing in his role is it? In fact, I recall Runaway throwing him under the bus after that Tranmere game. You know, the one where Runaway said Graham Rodger told him they played a completely different formation whilst Paul Bolland on co-commentary told us exactly how they would set up before kick off. |
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Probably because Hurst and Doig never switch off and go watch games all over themselves
Not on a Saturday they don’t |
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Not on a Saturday they don’t
I’m case your hadn’t noticed, we currently reside in the professional games equivalent of the dog and duck league, mainly because of a lack of investment, ideas and vision…again. Worrying about whether or not we’ve a chap that can go an watch a game somewhere else and tell us if someone’s excrement or not is not necessarily a priority. I’d also be very cautious to admit I worked as a scout under the stewardship of charlatans like Jolley and Hollowords and the bonkers baldy, Slade… |
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Who gives a toss really?
Yeovil away. Lets put on a performance and get 3 points! 👊 UTM
Graham Rodger has done a fantastic job with GTSET and the previous incarnations. Anybody that has kids or has been a kid at them will know. So if he has been treated in a manner unaccording to our 'B corp' ethos, like others at the club, then we all should give a toss. Saying these things sounds good, but the reality has to match if they want to claim the moral high ground. That being said, this is the first I've heard of this situation, so don't know whether it is more unhappy staff leaving or adding to the team. |
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Graham Rodger has done a fantastic job with GTSET and the previous incarnations. Anybody that has kids or has been a kid at them will know. So if he has been treated in a manner unaccording to our 'B corp' ethos, like others at the club, then we all should give a toss. Saying these things sounds good, but the reality has to match if they want to claim the moral high ground.
That being said, this is the first I've heard of this situation, so don't know whether it is more unhappy staff leaving or adding to the team.
Care to elaborate with evidence who else has been treated in a manner unaccording to our 'B Corp' ethos? |
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Care to elaborate with evidence who else has been treated in a manner unaccording to our 'B Corp' ethos?
Let me be clear. I’ve not suggested for a minute that anyone has been treated badly, or that it isn’t the right decision to demote him, and then bring in a CEO over his head. I was merely flagging up that it’s happened, that he’s been demoted. Perhaps the owners have plans for the community trust, that they feel he isn’t capable of delivering. Or perhaps they have concerns about the way he was running things that we aren’t aware of. As I say, I didn’t make the original post as a negative. Merely to flag it up. Hope that clarifies things |
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Care to elaborate with evidence who else has been treated in a manner unaccording to our 'B Corp' ethos?
It's been well reported that lots of people aren't happy and the high turnover of staff is evidence of that. What do you want me to do? Ask the member of staff that wrote a formal letter of complaint to let me scan it so that I can post it on the Internet? Or get quotes from people negotiating pay offs? You didn't need any evidence to claim they all hated Fenty, but they weren't dropping like flies then, so imagine how bad it must be now! |
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It's been well reported that lots of people aren't happy and the high turnover of staff is evidence of that.
What do you want me to do? Ask the member of staff that wrote a formal letter of complaint to let me scan it so that I can post it on the Internet? Or get quotes from people negotiating pay offs? You didn't need any evidence to claim they all hated Fenty, but they weren't dropping like flies then, so imagine how bad it must be now!
Imagining how bad it is now is one way of thinking about it. Another could be, there have been a lot of people working for an organisation that had no ambition to grow, develop or move forward or put the investment into doing so and the people they employed were reflective of that (there are exceptions to every rule so I am not painting everyone with the same brush). Now the owners are looking to move every department of the club into the new world and fit for the future which means that some haven’t got the skills to do the jobs, and others don’t want to change or actually want to do something they have not been asked to do previously. 2 sides to every storey. |
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It's been well reported that lots of people aren't happy and the high turnover of staff is evidence of that.
What do you want me to do? Ask the member of staff that wrote a formal letter of complaint to let me scan it so that I can post it on the Internet? Or get quotes from people negotiating pay offs? You didn't need any evidence to claim they all hated Fenty, but they weren't dropping like flies then, so imagine how bad it must be now!
They were when Fenty first came into power, anyone who opposed him was swiftly removed and replaced by cronies since he practices the Tory strategy of cronyism, they are still loyalists to this day who apparently have nothing better to do than sit on here undermining everything the new owners do by expressing "concerns". But yes, either provide proof of any single one of your claims or stop whinging every time the club does anything. Suppose even if you did I wouldn't care though, football is a results based business and we can't run a club on sentiment alone when it's been constantly falling through the floor with these people running it for years now. So forgive me if I don't care if Ian Fleming was unhappy about being replaced as a crusty old has been who runs a company like it's still the 80's and they don't want the likes of Graham Rodger running the scouting set up because his track record is actually really crap. Fenty sold the club, move on and go do something else instead of hanging around like a bad smell whining about everything the club does now. Maybe we need to get rid of a few people who became comfortable with their positions and replace them with new, forward thinking and ambitious people. None of these people who were loyal to the club for 40-50 years seem to have done sodomist all to help it advanced as we've been on a slippery slope into the black hole of non-league football for years dropping back into it so maybe it's time to let somebody new have a go at running a football club. |
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Let me be clear. I’ve not suggested for a minute that anyone has been treated badly, or that it isn’t the right decision to demote him, and then bring in a CEO over his head.
I was merely flagging up that it’s happened, that he’s been demoted.
Perhaps the owners have plans for the community trust, that they feel he isn’t capable of delivering. Or perhaps they have concerns about the way he was running things that we aren’t aware of. As I say, I didn’t make the original post as a negative. Merely to flag it up.
Hope that clarifies things
Maybe you are suffering from memory loss but you got briefly kicked off this forum for an accusation towards a member of staff so that first sentence of yours is a bit rich. |
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It's been well reported that lots of people aren't happy and the high turnover of staff is evidence of that.
What do you want me to do? Ask the member of staff that wrote a formal letter of complaint to let me scan it so that I can post it on the Internet? Or get quotes from people negotiating pay offs? You didn't need any evidence to claim they all hated Fenty, but they weren't dropping like flies then, so imagine how bad it must be now!
That would be great if you could provide such evidence. I do wonder why they are so keen to tell you all their troubles though Mr Penfras or am I actually talking to the old principle funder today? At least we had evidence that Fenty wasn't well liked given his blatant public attack on Matt Dean, his out of touch views such as women using flares as tampons and comments from former players. |
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An executive management role doesn’t always mean an appointment as a company director, and so it wouldn’t necessarily mean a listing at companies house.
But I agree, it is strange that Rodger has carried out the role of the CEO of GTSET for many years, even though it was Ian Fleming was listed as the CEO of the entity at companies house.
I haven’t put in the effort to search any further, but perhaps there are multiple ways in which the organisation is structured, such as a limited company status, as well as things like a registered charity too. But whatever the circumstances, Rodger has been operating as the CEO in terms of how his role was portrayed, for a number of years.
I hear too, that Paul Hurst dispensed with his services as Chief Scout this season. A position that he was appointed to by Russell Slade, that continued under Michael Jolley, Ian Holloway and initially when Hurst came back.
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Employees that had zero accountability because of a despot girl private ruining the club being asked to do some work getting mardy and moaning….who’d have thought it.
flipping lot should’ve gone, they were all complicit, if they didn’t like it they should’ve grown a spine and left…they didn’t.
intercourse em…
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Let me be clear. I’ve not suggested for a minute that anyone has been treated badly, or that it isn’t the right decision to demote him, and then bring in a CEO over his head.
I was merely flagging up that it’s happened, that he’s been demoted.
Perhaps the owners have plans for the community trust, that they feel he isn’t capable of delivering. Or perhaps they have concerns about the way he was running things that we aren’t aware of. As I say, I didn’t make the original post as a negative. Merely to flag it up.
Hope that clarifies things
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Is that the Chris Grocock who used to play for Town
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Let me be clear. I’ve not suggested for a minute that anyone has been treated badly, or that it isn’t the right decision to demote him, and then bring in a CEO over his head.
I was merely flagging up that it’s happened, that he’s been demoted.
Perhaps the owners have plans for the community trust, that they feel he isn’t capable of delivering. Or perhaps they have concerns about the way he was running things that we aren’t aware of. As I say, I didn’t make the original post as a negative. Merely to flag it up.
Hope that clarifies things
Bloody hell! You’re furiously backpedaling like someone who realises he has gone too far! Worried that the club might conclude you are making unsubstantiated statements about them. Legal training kicking in. |
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Is that the Chris Grocock who used to play for Town
In the GTSET announcement? Yes. Works/worked for Wilkinson Chapman who were the club’s solicitors in the old days of Philip Day and Ian Fleming. Not sure if they still are or not. Or if CG did any work for the club. |
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So Graham Rodger is out the door and is the next person being moved aside like Ian Fleming was. His CEO job of the community department is being advertised. I guess that his token quote in the news article is a means to provide him with a bit of dignity whilst losing his job. Have to say though, that it probably is high time that they brought someone in of the calibre to take the community department to the levels that the new owners want, with all of their plans for community engagement and installing civic pride. https://gtfc.co.uk/vacancy-sports-education-trust-chief-executive-officer/
You’re wrong. As usual. Graham Rodger is both the Manager & Safeguarding Officer at the GTSET. He’s never been CEO. Check companies house. Graham Rodger has never been a director at GTSET. He is also still the First Team Chief Scout isn’t he? |
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Imagining how bad it is now is one way of thinking about it.
Another could be, there have been a lot of people working for an organisation that had no ambition to grow, develop or move forward or put the investment into doing so and the people they employed were reflective of that (there are exceptions to every rule so I am not painting everyone with the same brush).
Now the owners are looking to move every department of the club into the new world and fit for the future which means that some haven’t got the skills to do the jobs, and others don’t want to change or actually want to do something they have not been asked to do previously.
2 sides to every storey.
An accurate assessment of what happens at most under-performing organisations that go through a leadership change. |
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Has anyone even taken into consideration that Graham Rodger may have decided, on a personal level, that he wants to step back with less responsibilities? Thus his old position needs filling, if he even is/was the CEO.
Remember the rumours about Mick the head groundsman and all the rumours that his job was being advertised and that he was leaving due to allegedly falling out with the new owners?
That rumour was totally crap. I saw him and asked him straight and he laughed, said he had read everything on The Fishy about him and couldn't believe all the conspiracy theorists who speak like they know the truth.
Well in his case, the new owners wanted someone else in to help with the multiple pitches around town. They offered him the new position but he politely declined, but was happy to work under someone else, on the same pay but with less responsibilities. No conspiracy theories enclosed within. Just plain facts.
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From start to finish what a stupid thread.
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Bloody hell! You’re furiously backpedaling like someone who realises he has gone too far! Worried that the club might conclude you are making unsubstantiated statements about them. Legal training kicking in.
Please tell me you don't actually believe this is really Phillip Day?! |
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Please tell me you don't actually believe this is really Phillip Day?!
No I don't. Just suspect whoever it is has worked in a legal environment. |
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So is this FAKE news?
Let's put it this way, Felipe has been offered a job by Putin. |
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You’re wrong. As usual.
Graham Rodger is both the Manager & Safeguarding Officer at the GTSET. He’s never been CEO. Check companies house. Graham Rodger has never been a director at GTSET.
He is also still the First Team Chief Scout isn’t he?
The organisation has a guy that is the Safeguarding officer that covers both GTSET and the Academy. Can’t remember his name, but I think it’s Michael or Martin or something like that. A really nice guy, that is past retirement age, but still works for Town. Graham Rodger was definitely relieved of his job as Chief Scout. That is for certain. |
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The organisation has a guy that is the Safeguarding officer that covers both GTSET and the Academy. Can’t remember his name, but I think it’s Michael or Martin or something like that. A really nice guy, that is past retirement age, but still works for Town.
Graham Rodger was definitely relieved of his job as Chief Scout. That is for certain.
He was responsible for identifying talent that couldn't finish any higher than 17th in League 2 and got us relegated in his time as Chief Scout. Mediocrity might have been the aim for you and your mates but Paul Hurst and the new owners aspire to be better. |
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He was responsible for identifying talent that couldn't finish any higher than 17th in League 2 and got us relegated in his time as Chief Scout. Mediocrity might have been the aim for you and your mates but Paul Hurst and the new owners aspire to be better.
What is it that makes you think that I am unhappy that Graham Rodger has been demoted? Believe me, I witnessed John having to throw money at GTSET because it was mismanaged, just to keep it afloat, and for years I felt that the person running the community Dept. was out of his depth and none productive. Again, I’m not being critical of the new owners for this decision. I think it is a positive. |
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What is it that makes you think that I am unhappy that Graham Rodger has been demoted?
Believe me, I witnessed John having to throw money at GTSET because it was mismanaged, just to keep it afloat, and for years I felt that the person running the community Dept. was out of his depth and none productive.
Again, I’m not being critical of the new owners for this decision. I think it is a positive.
It's taken 6 pages but your first post certainly doesn't come across anything like your most recent. Says it all about John, GTSET was mismanaged in your informed opinion but he still couldn't be bothered to sort out that mismanagement. |
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The organisation has a guy that is the Safeguarding officer that covers both GTSET and the Academy. Can’t remember his name, but I think it’s Michael or Martin or something like that. A really nice guy, that is past retirement age, but still works for Town.
Graham Rodger was definitely relieved of his job as Chief Scout. That is for certain.
You might want to email the person responsible for the new OS and tell them that they have incorrectly got Graham Rodger listed on the site as the GTSET safeguarding officer then. Or you're just wrong. Again. Like Usual. |
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Graham Rodger was definitely relieved of his job as Chief Scout. That is for certain.
During the Ian Holloway era? What a disgraceful way for Fenty and co to treat a club legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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You might want to email the person responsible for the new OS and tell them that they have incorrectly got Graham Rodger listed on the site as the GTSET safeguarding officer then.
Or you're just wrong. Again. Like Usual.
Here you go look, I knew it was either Michael or Martin. It’s Martin George, a really nice fella, who I think was a retired police officer http://www.gtset.co.uk/the-staff/ |
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Here you go look, I knew it was either Michael or Martin. It’s Martin George, a really nice fella, who I think was a retired police officer http://www.gtset.co.uk/the-staff/
The new OS lists Martin George as "Lead Designated Safeguarding Officer" presumably across the entire business(es) because Adam Smith is listed as the Academy Safeguarding officer & Graham Rodger as the GTSET Safeguarding Officer. So Graham Rodger is the GTSET Safeguarding officier reporting to that really nice fella who you couldn't remember the name of. |
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The new OS lists Martin George as "Lead Designated Safeguarding Officer" presumably across the entire business(es) because Adam Smith is listed as the Academy Safeguarding officer & Graham Rodger as the GTSET Safeguarding Officer.
So Graham Rodger is the GTSET Safeguarding officier reporting to that really nice fella who you couldn't remember the name of.
Crikey he is dropping down the pecking order then. But at least they haven’t got rid of him altogether |
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Crikey he is dropping down the pecking order then. But at least they haven’t got rid of him altogether
Out of interest do you think people who are out of their depth and not productive should be kept on in an organisation or let go? |
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Out of interest do you think people who are out of their depth and not productive should be kept on in an organisation or let go?
flipping hell…he’s not gonna know the answer to that after being part of the incompetence at GTFC… |
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Out of interest do you think people who are out of their depth and not productive should be kept on in an organisation or let go?
This hypothetical organisation. Is it the Fishy and the is Felipe the hypothetical person who is out of his depth? |
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What is it that makes you think that I am unhappy that Graham Rodger has been demoted?
Believe me, I witnessed John having to throw money at GTSET because it was mismanaged, just to keep it afloat, and for years I felt that the person running the community Dept. was out of his depth and none productive.
Again, I’m not being critical of the new owners for this decision. I think it is a positive.
Money he’s getting back I might add but as it goes I actually agree with you on the out of his depth bit just my opinion mind |
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Money he’s getting back I might add but as it goes I actually agree with you on the out of his depth bit just my opinion mind
And yet honest John threw money at it ‘allegedly’ (wasn’t there some ‘unpsent’ money regarding youth systems/community stuff) and left that person in post… flipping shite management that… |
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This hypothetical organisation. Is it the Fishy and the is Felipe the hypothetical person who is out of his depth?
This organisation used to be run by a guy called Get. The business turned a profit but the quality declined consistently year on year and it was all the fault of them pesky customers. Get eventually left and new people came in to run the business. Staff were still faxing purchase orders and when they bought some computers and looked to modernise things, Fil and Pen got scared so they told the customers the new people were bullies. The funny thing is though that the customers were very happy with the business now, the product had improved and they were treated with respect; although the business logo did change slightly. Resisting change, Pen and Fil got together and decided to make up a rumour citing that the new owners have been heavily criticised in regards to priorities, with customers questioning ambition in terms of the end product of the business. Fil and Pen liked to moan a lot but the truth is, they were soul sapping people who ultimately offered very little to the organisation so were replaced with driven, motivated and forward thinking people. |
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This organisation used to be run by a guy called Get. The business turned a profit but the quality declined consistently year on year and it was all the fault of them pesky customers.
Get eventually left and new people came in to run the business. Staff were still faxing purchase orders and when they bought some computers and looked to modernise things, Fil and Pen got scared so they told the customers the new people were bullies.
The funny thing is though that the customers were very happy with the business now, the product had improved and they were treated with respect; although the business logo did change slightly. Resisting change, Pen and Fil got together and decided to make up a rumour citing that the new owners have been heavily criticised in regards to priorities, with customers questioning ambition in terms of the end product of the business.
Fil and Pen liked to moan a lot but the truth is, they were soul sapping people who ultimately offered very little to the organisation so were replaced with driven, motivated and forward thinking people.
I can remember when faxes were a great advance when you needed to send an urgent purchase order. Much less work than a telex (and without the risk of you typing something incorrectly). 😆 don’t knock it 😉 |
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So here we have Jason Stockwood, former vice chairman of Simply Business- a company that was voted best place to work in the entire country, not once but twice, and Jason himself won the best overall business leader award. These awards led to the company being accredited as a certified B Corporation, which he is trying to repeat for GTFC and will be the first football club ever to achieve this if/when it happens.
And yet, some disgruntled acolytes of the old regime, which failed miserably to to move the club in a forward direction despite almost 2 decades of trying, are labelling the new guys as some kind of draconian organisation whose employees are being mistreated and leaving in droves.
Yeah right.
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So here we have Jason Stockwood, former vice chairman of Simply Business- a company that was voted best place to work in the entire country, not once but twice, and Jason himself won the best overall business leader award. These awards led to the company being accredited as a certified B Corporation, which he is trying to repeat for GTFC and will be the first football club ever to achieve this if/when it happens.
And yet, some disgruntled acolytes of the old regime, which failed miserably to to move the club in a forward direction despite almost 2 decades of trying, are labelling the new guys as some kind of draconian organisation whose employees are being mistreated and leaving in droves.
Yeah right.
Comments of which have been proven false by multiple employees. Take the groundsman situation… Two ways of looking at it; the previous regime was useless and lacked vision and desire to be anything other than sycophants and for the club to merely exist. People that worked for that regime did so, probably with good intentions but chose to either turn a blind eye or fed the leader and followed through with his wishes which ultimately saw the club relegated out the league twice. So they’re either spineless and didn’t really care or they too were/are as incompetent and were complicit in that…thus, needing to be removed. Sweep away the rubbish and start again. Or, the new owners have come in, they’ve given people a chance, they tried to remain sentimental but pragmatic, they’ve recruited to support those people or indeed, perhaps because they’ve got to actually do something now and are held to account and they aren’t able to do that, so, the nee owners move them on. Much like what happens in any failing business that’s taken over. There’s also a third in which people have may be just decided that they don’t want the hassle anymore so are retiring kr leaving for pastures new, which is fine. The hearsay and twaddle about working conditions or difficulties working for, let’s face it, significantly more successful folk than Fenty is merely that. Only comes from those who ‘liked’ or supported Fenty too…funny that don’t you think. Fleming, gone? Is he missed? Clearly not. Day, Marley, gone? Missed? Most definitely not. Any other deadwood that’s been moved on, missed? Again, clearly not… |
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Really shown your arše in this thread eh Noche? Starts a thread to have another go at the new owners and within a couple of hours has absolutely shat his pants, furiously back-pedalling and trying to score points by arguing who is/was the safeguarding officer of the Sports & Education Trust as if anyone cares.
Utterly humiliating. I can only assume you get some kind of weird sexual pleasure from being humiliated in public given the amount of time you spend on here embarrassing yourself in new and ever more tragic ways.
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So here we have Jason Stockwood, former vice chairman of Simply Business- a company that was voted best place to work in the entire country, not once but twice, and Jason himself won the best overall business leader award. These awards led to the company being accredited as a certified B Corporation, which he is trying to repeat for GTFC and will be the first football club ever to achieve this if/when it happens.
And yet, some disgruntled acolytes of the old regime, which failed miserably to to move the club in a forward direction despite almost 2 decades of trying, are labelling the new guys as some kind of draconian organisation whose employees are being mistreated and leaving in droves.
Yeah right.
It's not Jason Stockwood that they have a problem with though. It's somebody who he has never worked with before, so maybe it's entirely possible that they don't live up to the standards he intends to set. The question is, does he address that or let them continue. |
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I don’t understand.
Look, as I’ve said, Graham Rodger has bitten the dust, is being demoted. Don’t any of you care about that?
Not saying it’s the wrong decision. All I’m saying is that we should have some sympathy in respect of someone that has lost the job that they was doing. It must be really difficult to remain in the club with someone coming in to do the role that you was supposed to be doing.
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It's not Jason Stockwood that they have a problem with though. It's somebody who he has never worked with before, so maybe it's entirely possible that they don't live up to the standards he intends to set. The question is, does he address that or let them continue.
We know who you mean, she’s clearly knocked you back. Perhaps, as CEO she takes her role seriously and like all good CEOs, holds people to account…they don’t like it so they cryarse about it. Let’s face it, anyone that worked on thr non playing side under Fenty’s tenure has on had to put up with his tantrums and say ‘yes sir, no sir’ for the last few years, take their wages and not give a excrement… Sweep the floor with the lot. The club was rotten, no time for sentiment… |
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It's not Jason Stockwood that they have a problem with though. It's somebody who he has never worked with before, so maybe it's entirely possible that they don't live up to the standards he intends to set. The question is, does he address that or let them continue.
Maybe it's also entirely possible that these people writing you letters about how much they miss John are bone idle and don't live up to the standards the board intend to set? |
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Maybe it's also entirely possible that these people writing you letters about how much they miss John are bone idle and don't live up to the standards the board intend to set?
I think it’s more entirely possible that these people writing letters are either a) non existent or b) a figment of imagination in a certain someone’s head or c) written by the very small group of individuals with huge chips on their shoulders, to go along with the green envy and jealousy of those whom are now in situ. |
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It's not Jason Stockwood that they have a problem with though. It's somebody who he has never worked with before, so maybe it's entirely possible that they don't live up to the standards he intends to set. The question is, does he address that or let them continue.
Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe there is someone causing a problem and it's pretty obvious who you mean. If there are genuine grievances there from some employees and it is being brought to the attention of the relevant parties, then you would expect that people with the track record the new owners have would address the problem. If in fact there is a problem I might add. A lot of fans were desperate for new ownership and a new direction after years of going backwards as a club. It's always a bit of a gamble who you end up with; just look at Swann up the road. We ended up with two local guys made good, both of whom are Town fans and both of whom seem to be responsible employers going on their past records. There will always be people who have their noses pushed out of joint when a new broom sweeps clean. I've seen it myself at a company I worked for. To my mind, we couldn't have wished for better people to take over than we got and maybe there are some feathers being ruffled, but I trust that eventually they will more likely take us forward than not, and in a more responsible manner than most football chairmen would work. They have only been in charge for about 9 months, so I'm sure there is still a certain amount of restructuring going on yet. The plain and simple fact is that we went nowhere and were going nowhere as things stood before they arrived. That is indisputable and is reflected in our league position, which is very many places and a few leagues lower than the starting point of the last owner. To expect to carry on doing things in the same way, with the same people in post, is just madness. |
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I don’t understand.
Look, as I’ve said, Graham Rodger has bitten the dust, is being demoted. Don’t any of you care about that?
Not saying it’s the wrong decision. All I’m saying is that we should have some sympathy in respect of someone that has lost the job that they was doing. It must be really difficult to remain in the club with someone coming in to do the role that you was supposed to be doing.
No I don’t really care to be honest. |
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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe there is someone causing a problem and it's pretty obvious who you mean.
If there are genuine grievances there from some employees and it is being brought to the attention of the relevant parties, then you would expect that people with the track record the new owners have would address the problem. If in fact there is a problem I might add.
A lot of fans were desperate for new ownership and a new direction after years of going backwards as a club. It's always a bit of a gamble who you end up with; just look at Swann up the road. We ended up with two local guys made good, both of whom are Town fans and both of whom seem to be responsible employers going on their past records. There will always be people who have their noses pushed out of joint when a new broom sweeps clean. I've seen it myself at a company I worked for.
To my mind, we couldn't have wished for better people to take over than we got and maybe there are some feathers being ruffled, but I trust that eventually they will more likely take us forward than not, and in a more responsible manner than most football chairmen would work. They have only been in charge for about 9 months, so I'm sure there is still a certain amount of restructuring going on yet.
The plain and simple fact is that we went nowhere and were going nowhere as things stood before they arrived. That is indisputable and is reflected in our league position, which is very many places and a few leagues lower than the starting point of the last owner. To expect to carry on doing things in the same way, with the same people in post, is just madness.
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This constant snide attack on the CEO is just classic, impotent misogynistic rage.
I know Fenty and his acolytes wanted to keep the club firmly rooted in the 1970s, but this is just getting tedious now.
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Who writes letters…to anyone other than a resignation letter, to your employer?
intercourse me, sending letters to a non employee of the club whining you don’t like it. Embarrassing bullshit. Bet you all have pagers too…
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It must be really difficult to remain in the club with someone coming in to do the role that you was supposed to be doing.
Fil, are you brain dead? In fact you don't even need to answer that because you have already proven it. I have got a BIG shovel you can borrow to dig yourself an even deeper hole for yourself! Yeh really difficult to stay at the club. Shall we ask Mike Phillips and Martin Dean's how that works successfully? |
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I don’t understand.
Look, as I’ve said, Graham Rodger has bitten the dust, is being demoted. Don’t any of you care about that?
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I can remember when faxes were a great advance when you needed to send an urgent purchase order. Much less work than a telex (and without the risk of you typing something incorrectly). 😆 don’t knock it 😉
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I’ve still got a working fax machine!! Not used it in donkey’s years mind you but I can’t bring myself to throw it out!!
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I would keep hold of it Grim. Might be useful one day if someone unplugs the internet.
I hope we get notice before someone unplugs the internet so I can get all my cryptocurrency out first. To think there are some people reading this who will have never used a fax machine... |
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I hope we get notice before someone unplugs the internet so I can get all my cryptocurrency out first.
To think there are some people reading this who will have never used a fax machine...
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The nhs still use them but they are getting phased out
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After 9 boring pages I have yet to see any actual proof offered to any claims by Pen other than "we know who I'm talking about" *nudgenudge winkwink*....I don't know so please enlighten me with names and evidence. Why they are taking their problems to you I don't know but if you were part of the old regime/a family member and talking to somebody from the old regime who has been replaced then I doubt you as a credible source for anything.
Even if you can't manage that I'd love to hear how the current CEO or owners have done something worse than
1. Firing the guy who played the club mascot for years simply because he expressed disagreement with how the club was being run. Then replaced him by selling the mascot position on matchdays to make a few pennies.
2. Tried to take down The Fishy as the biggest GTFC forum to control the narrative and silence his critics. Then went on to demand the personal information of anyone who uses the site so he can summon them to his office for a chat where he prints off forum screenshots and tries to silence them by threatening legal action. Kept coming on The Fishy to harass and threaten their critics and make longwinded speeches even after selling the club.
3. Put the groundskeeper on furlough to save a few pennies leaving the pitch in a horrible state, did work on the ground themselves to save a few pennies instead of hiring professionals, cheaped out on completing much needed work on replacing old floodlights leaving us with weird Frankenstein floodlights stuck together. Underinvested so badly in training facilities that Hurst and the coaches found that balls were under inflated and much of the training facilities were in poor condition.
4. Put assistant manager on furlough and then refused to pay him his wages to come back to save some pennies, changed a contract bonus agreement as the player is driving over to sign the contract and telling him to turn around if he doesn't like it.
5. Hired personal friends and associates in business and club positions when they have no knowledge of how to run a football club or even experience running a company nor did they invest a single penny into the club in almost all cases. Got caught trying to do business with a convicted fraudster and still doesn't admit to any wrongdoing. While saving pennies by refusing to pay others or to the detriment of the club, spunked money up the wall on a stadium vanity project in the hopes he can boost his political career by tying it into local regeneration and schmoozing up to dodgy politicians like notorious right-wing nut, tax dodger and noted hater of EU tax laws Nigel Farage.
I'm sure I could think of more but I feel like even proving they did something worse than one of these things that happened under the watch of the previous board and staff no longer at the club would be good. Demoting or replacing the staff that have not provided any results in 30 years at the club isn't worse.
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Very interesting things occurring by the looks of it Oh well as long as it's for the better, then that can only be a positive. Interesting too that the women's team is also in the process of moving out of GTSET into Neil Woods' Academy set up. That too can be a real positive for the women's team, as the Academy is an outstanding and really well managed and man-managed set up. They deserve the best. |
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Very interesting things occurring by the looks of it Oh well as long as it's for the better, then that can only be a positive. Interesting too that the women's team is also in the process of moving out of GTSET into Neil Woods' Academy set up. That too can be a real positive for the women's team, as the Academy is an outstanding and really well managed and man-managed set up. They deserve the best.
Where have you seen that Dale and what does being in the academy setup entail compared to now? That broom really is sweeping through the organisation it seems. |
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A set of new people come into the club and run it professionally.
We couldn't wish to have two better people than JS and AP at the helm. Not only are they successful businessmen in their own right, they're from Grimsby and they love the club. We're also very lucky to have DC as CEO. Loads of experience, recognised by JS and AP as the best person to improve us off the field.
They've taken over a non-league club - and you don't fall into non-league from where we were if everything's okay. We were an absolute shambles. Lots to sort out, loads of tough conversations to have, of course there are going to be some very difficult decisions to make (many we won't be privy to).
But the one thing we can all be sure of is that they're doing it for the good of the club and the community. They're not doing it for their mates, their family or their own bank balance/political standing.
They're not arguing with the media, closing down message boards, calling managers fruit loops, trying to control the narrative, snapping flags, being petulant, etc. They'll simply be looking at things and if something wasn't working (and plenty wasn't) then they'll change it. Standard practice.
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Where have you seen that Dale and what does being in the academy setup entail compared to now?
That broom really is sweeping through the organisation it seems.
Well the information came to me about two - three weeks ago, through a reliable source (don't you just hate it when people say a "reliable source"). I don't think it was any big secret or anything. Somebody at Blundell Park made it known that there had been meetings held with Neil Woods, and that they were in discussions about picking up the women's team, lifting it out of GTSET, and putting it under the umbrella of the Academy. Believe me, if this had been a possibility when I was there, then I wouldn't have jacked the job in, as I have a great deal of respect for the Academy and the people in it. It isn't a big secret or anything as far as I know. My daughter is a player for the women's team, and Neil Woods and Colin Walker from the Academy attended training last Thursday, for an introduction to the players. I have to say, that I have got a great deal of respect for Colin (and Neil too of course), who has had a good deal of experience in the women's game previously at a high level. He is a super nice guy too bye the way. I cannot answer your question about what being in the academy set up entails compared to now. Other than to say, that, the my daughter was suitably encouraged by the introduction they made on Thursday night, especially with regard to things like having a physio available to them, which is something I struggled to get for the players. Plus of course, there are some splendid coaches in the Academy, and the players are crying out for an improvement in coaching. Since I left in November, my previous assistant, and Graham Rodger, took over team affairs and training sessions. There has been a lot of instances where management and coaches haven't been attending training, and sessions have had to be put on by the captain and another player. That is far from ideal, since the players need to be fully in the session as participants, not as coaches. I did actually hint at wanting some additional coach resource during pre-season, as I had done in previous seasons, as I recognised that we needed it. Whilst I am pretty happy with my own offering as a coach, I was always conscious of the fact that we was devoid of other coaches of the level that the players needed and deserved. Especially when I look at other teams forging ahead like Lincoln City, Lincoln United, Chesterfield, Northampton and Notts County etc. They have huge teams of resource available to them, including multiple outfield coaches, goalkeeper coaches, physio, video analysis people etc. Some of these people are college and uni students, that clubs are able to tap into for work experience. Chesterfield pitched up with the very latest VEO match analysis camera system. There is one of these at GTSET used for the boys college teams, but when I asked if we could also utilise this, it wasn't made available to us. Last summer I actually contacted Neil and another person in the Academy, to see if they knew of anyone that would be willing to volunteer to help out. I really wanted an additional outfield coach, in addition to a goalkeeper coach. There wasn't anything or anyone forthcoming at that stage, but hopefully, now that it is becoming part of the Academy, these things will fall into place nicely, The girls' really do deserve it. There is so much more that can be done for the women's team, and I am really quite excited at the prospects for them now. I'll sign off at that. I've had a little read back on what I have written. I don't genuinely think I've written anything here, where I have disclosed things that I shouldn't, or that isn't public knowledge.. It's all pretty much common knowledge. It's peculiar that I find myself contributing to a discussion on a topic of "Graham Rodger", but naturally when I saw the subject title, it sparked my intrigue. I have no idea whether or not he has been demoted, but as far as I was concerned, all correspondence I received from him was signed off as him being the Chief Executive of GTSET, and that is what I always understood him to be on a day to day basis. I did hear a few weeks ago, that it was likely that the club was going to recruit a new CEO, and wondered then why that would be the case. Keep positive everyone and #UTM |
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Thanks for that Dale. Great to hear information from someone really in the know. Glad to hear there are positive moves afoot for the women’s team.
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Thanks for that Dale. Great to hear information from someone really in the know. Glad to hear there are positive moves afoot for the women’s team.
This. I don't even know Dale (or the circumstances around his departure). However, I am sure GTFC would benefit from his involvement in some capacity somewhere. |
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Thanks for that Dale. Great to hear information from someone really in the know. Glad to hear there are positive moves afoot for the women’s team.
I cannot really say I am on the know. Just stuff that is fairly public anyway, or is certainly openly discussed. |
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I cannot really say I am on the know. Just stuff that is fairly public anyway, or is certainly openly discussed.
Well let’s put it this way. It’s good to hear stuff from a named person who was involved in the club until recently rather than the tittle tattle we get from a couple of other posters who have a big axe to grind. |
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Thanks for that update Dale, it was very informative. It sounds like your words haven't fallen on deaf ears and something is being done about continually improving our womens team on and off the pitch.
What I do find weird though is that everybody who had dealings with Graham state that he was Chief Executive but Ian Fleming (and now Debbie Cook) are listed on Companies House as Chief Executive. Graham Rodger has never appeared there.
Maybe he has been demoted from his role as Fake Chief Executive but I think it's great that we are finally getting a bit of transparency as to who is in charge of things.
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What I do find weird though is that everybody who had dealings with Graham state that he was Chief Executive but Ian Fleming (and now Debbie Cook) are listed on Companies House as Chief Executive. Graham Rodger has never appeared there.
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That's because he wasn't CE of the club, only a sub-section of the club
I know. But GTSET is a separate company and he has never been listed as a Chief Executive of that either: [url]https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06500460/officers[/url] |
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Are you going to have another 11 page thread initiated by FN because the club are advertising for a Head of Commercial?
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I would keep hold of it Grim. Might be useful one day if someone unplugs the internet.
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Are you going to have another 11 page thread initiated by FN because the club are advertising for a Head of Commercial?
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I know. But GTSET is a separate company and he has never been listed as a Chief Executive of that either: [url]https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06500460/officers[/url]
I can clarify the answer the question in respect of the CEO position at Grimsby Town Sports & Education Trust. First of all, Debbie Cook isn't the CEO of GTSET and neither was Ian Fleming before her. It is clear to see that people are looking at the documentation on the Companies House listings, and when doing so, then looking at the officers, where it shows what their "Occupation" is. Their occupation is not necessarily the role that they are carrying out for the limited company that you are looking at on the companies house record. So for instance, Debbie's occupation is listed as a CEO, as was Ian Fleming before her. That is perfectly correct, as they are, or were, CEO's of Grimsby Town Football Club, a different business, but not at GTSET. Likewise, the current chairman of GTSET is Chris Grocock. If you look at Chis's companies house record attached to GTSET, it lists his occupation as "Solicitor", and that is exactly what his job is, at Wilkin Chapman. You don't have to work in a business on a day to day basis, in order to be a company director and to be listed at companies house. You don't even have to be on the payroll, and you certainly don't have to hold and shares/equity. Not forgetting that GTSET is a registered charity, the list of directors/officers at companies house for GTSET, is essentially a list of trustees of the registered charity, of which there have been many over the years, and Chris Grocock is the current chairman. That then brings you to the matter of Graham and what was his role as CEO of GTSET. First of all, you would also need to understand that the job title of CEO doesn't have to go hand in hand with a board appointment as a company director, and neither does it make you a de facto director. A senior non-board member employee, can have the job title of CEO. And as far as I was concerned, Graham was always known to me as the CEO of GTSET, both in his communications to me, as well as in lots of publicity items I saw over the years. So essentially he must have been an employee of GTSET in the managerial position of CEO, prior to some sort of re-organisation, for whatever reason that re-organisation has occurred. The role of CEO at GTSET obviously does not carry director responsibility, or the risk or fiduciary duties associated with being a company director. Furthermore, the job specification reads quite clearly, that the role reports directly to the Chair of GTSET and is accountable to the Chair and Board of GTSET. Hope that clears some things up for those that were curious about the position of CEO and the structure. I have to say though, that it sounds like a really cracking and exciting job. I did actually tongue in cheek, ping Jason a text message when I saw it, saying that I was tempted to apply for the role. Sounds right up my street and I would have been really tempted if I hadn't recently taken on a new role myself. Great job for someone though, Someone that is dynamic and can make a real difference in the community. That understands how to drive a business, contribute to, and lead on a new business plan for a new and improved direction. And someone that can also be an outstanding ambassador for the club through the community department. It will be interesting to see who gets the job. Bye for now Dale H #UTM |
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