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Seen a handful of fans saying on twitter they have heard that the game on Saturday could be postponed.
Apparently there are Covid cases at town and not all the players are double jabbed so those players who aren't double jabbed will be required to self isolate.
I don't listen to Twitter rumours but has anybody heard anything about this?
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If it’s true that only 6 have been double jabbed (as rumoured on Twitter) the rest want their heads melled in.
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If it’s true that only 6 have been double jabbed, the rest want their head melled in.
Not everybody has had the opportunity to be double jabbed yet. And most of the players are younger than me. |
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If it’s true that only 6 have been double jabbed (as rumoured on Twitter) the rest want their heads melled in.
Bit of a daft comment given all adults in the UK were officially offered the chance to book the jab on 19th June, 9 weeks ago and the minimum wait time between jabs is 8 weeks |
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Not everybody has had the opportunity to be double jabbed yet. And most of the players are younger than me.
That’s nonsense and you know it… |
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If people want or need the jab there’s literally countess places offering it…they’ve even got some Orwellian gathering in St Stephens centre in Hull, just turn up and wait…
Or May be, just May be, folk don’t want blackmailing in to something…
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Kristine Green jumped in on the twitter rumour stating that she's heard nothing
Be our bloody luck though, this game getting postponed to a wet, December Tuesday night!!..
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I suspect we’ll get nonsense like this all year…
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Kristine Green jumped in on the twitter rumour stating that she's heard nothing
Be our bloody luck though, this game getting postponed to a wet, December Tuesday night!!..
I can't see anything from Kristine when I look, maybe I'm looking in wrong place, Kristine is a director of the club so one would suspect her to have heard something so hopefully it is just a rumour! |
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Bit of a daft comment given all adults in the UK were officially offered the chance to book the jab on 19th June, 9 weeks ago and the minimum wait time between jabs is 8 weeks
They’ve all had a week then. Maximum fines all round (bar 6) and sack Dave Moore. |
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Seen a handful of fans saying on twitter they have heard that the game on Saturday could be postponed.
Apparently there are Covid cases at town and not all the players are double jabbed so those players who aren't double jabbed will be required to self isolate.
I don't listen to Twitter rumours but has anybody heard anything about this?
If true and I don't do twitter, would it be such a bad thing? More time for our injured players to come back and more time for Hurst to find that elusive striker, just saying. |
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If true and I don't do twitter, would it be such a bad thing?
More time for our injured players to come back and more time for Hurst to find that elusive striker, just saying.
We’ve had 6 weeks longer than anybody else apart from Southend, absolutely no excuse and I can’t see one positive on games being postponed |
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That’s nonsense and you know it…
I'm 28, and got my 2nd jab this afternoon. And that's with having 8 weeks in between, instead of the usual 12 weeks which was recommended for under 30's i believe. Only managed to get mine changed as suppose to be going to France end of September, and my original date meant we traveled 13 days after 2nd dose, and at the time, it had to be 14 days after to avoid quarantine in France! Yes they have offered walk ins around town at certain times, but i've had mine booked from the day i was allowed, so i decided to keep my bookings |
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The rumours will stop when there back at school.
This is my thinking…we’ll see nonsense rumours like this all season. I also suspect we’ll see clubs struggling circumvent the rules too… |
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This is my thinking…we’ll see nonsense rumours like this all season. I also suspect we’ll see clubs struggling circumvent the rules too…
I was working at Skegness Town a couple of weeks ago and one of their officials was in the bar saying quietly to someone (but not quietly enough) that one of their players had Covid but they've just told the league he's in isolation so they could get the game on. 6 players double jabbed may be poor but how many are single jabbed? Yes I know they could technically have done it but around the time it could be done, player contracts were ending and they won't have known where they would be to get the second jab. These rumours will get boring very quick but I think they will circulate quite regularly. |
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We had our first game postponed on Saturday as our team is predominately younger players who’ve not been double jabbed yet abs we’ve had positive cases in our camp. Our next game away to Brackley is off on Saturday. Going to be a long old season for everyone this  |
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I haven't had mine yet. Maybe they chose not too?
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I haven't had mine yet. Maybe they chose not too?
And if they’ve chosen not to then we have to respect that…my worry is Covid will become an excuse. Seems rather futile in wanting players vaccinated when they played for almost an entire season without needing it or bothering…remember when they cleaned the goalposts and balls? There’s gonna be a time when we look back on all this and just laugh at the absurdity of it all… |
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I can't see anything from Kristine when I look, maybe I'm looking in wrong place, Kristine is a director of the club so one would suspect her to have heard something so hopefully it is just a rumour!
Just because she's on the board of the club and Trust doesn't mean she knows everything but looks like the rumour was true. [url]https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/status/1427549067039711232?s=19[/url] |
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fine the unvaccinated players and use the money to refund supporters travel costs (if this gets postponed)
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fine the unvaccinated players and use the money to refund supporters travel costs (if this gets postponed)
You’re assuming they can have the vaccine? Perhaps they’ve only had 1 of the pointless doses? Perhaps they’ve decided to invoke their right to not have it… This is all farcical now whichever way you look at it. Just play the flipping games, whoever the teams are…nobody flipping cares any more anyway… |
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You’re assuming they can have the vaccine? Perhaps they’ve only had 1 of the pointless doses? Perhaps they’ve decided to invoke their right to not have it…
This is all farcical now whichever way you look at it. Just play the flipping games, whoever the teams are…nobody flipping cares any more anyway…
This was covered earlier in the thread - they've all had ample time to sort out both doses. No excuses. |
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This was covered earlier in the thread - they've all had ample time to sort out both doses. No excuses.
Like I said, you’re assuming they can have it or want it…no legal requirement and rightly so and plenty can’t have it…I’ve 5 members of staff at work that couldn’t have it for various reasons… |
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Also…Humberside Sport issuing a statement but not the clubs website or social media as yet…
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fine the unvaccinated players and use the money to refund supporters travel costs (if this gets postponed)
dont be so bloody stupid. can catch covid despite being double jabbed anyway |
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Would we conduct tests for flu? If we had an illness that swept through the club would we call a game off? It’s be pretty hard to get that through…
Just play the games…
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Pointless doses 🥱. If they all used some common sense and had some social duty and had the jab we’d almost certainly have a game this weekend. Lincs has always been two weeks ahead of the vaccine curve as the average population is so old - one of the very (very) few benefits of living around here.
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Also…Humberside Sport issuing a statement but not the clubs website or social media as yet…
It is now... |
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Pointless doses 🥱. If they all used some common sense and had some social duty and had the jab we’d almost certainly have a game this weekend. Lincs has always been two weeks ahead of the vaccine curve as the average population is so old - one of the very (very) few benefits of living around here.
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fine the unvaccinated players and use the money to refund supporters travel costs (if this gets postponed)
Why? It's not a legal requirement to have the vaccine.... |
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If the PCR tests are positive will Chesterfield (as recent contacts) be caught up in this as well does anyone know? (every cloud and all that  ) |
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Leagues need to make a decision on this nonsense quick else once again, supporters will be out of pocket multiple times this season…
This will become the excuse…so unless we’ve got a way of PCR test results being done at the club it’ll be at the earliest tomorrow…
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well i wish players involved a full recovery, it isnt pleasant
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If the PCR tests are positive will Chesterfield (as recent contacts) be caught up in this as well does anyone know? (every cloud and all that )
I mean top notch social control again…I mean where does it all end. PCR tests aren’t a legal requirement, neither is a lateral flow, nor is a vaccine… Just flipping go about life as normal and get on with it… |
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maybe not, but I believe it's a moral one.
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Bit of a daft comment given all adults in the UK were officially offered the chance to book the jab on 19th June, 9 weeks ago and the minimum wait time between jabs is 8 weeks
But when I had my first jab it was 12 weeks, and although I was offered the chance to book at the start of June, I couldn't actually get the jab until the start of July without having to drive hours out of my way. So no, it's not a daft comment. I'm sure if you tried really hard, you could ring around loads of places and push to have the second jab booked in earlier, but most people aren't that way inclined. |
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Why?
It's not a legal requirement to have the vaccine....
Cos it prevents stupid avoidable scenarios like this occuring which have a huge negative impact for many others. Everyone who doesn't have a concrete medical excuse for not getting a vaccine is a flipping moron. There are very very few situations where individuals with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be getting vaccinated, and I highly doubt any professional athletes are not getting vaccinated on time because they've got one of them. |
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But when I had my first jab it was 12 weeks, and although I was offered the chance to book at the start of June, I couldn't actually get the jab until the start of July without having to drive hours out of my way. So no, it's not a daft comment. I'm sure if you tried really hard, you could ring around loads of places and push to have the second jab booked in earlier, but most people aren't that way inclined.
Not many of our players live local, assuming they did want the vaccine, travelling wouldn’t have been an issue surely… We were essentially pushed in to having it at work, but could only go to two places, both over 40 miles from where I live. Worrying about the vaccine is flipping pointless anyway so we may as wel abandon the rules given plenty with it test positive still…much like I’m sure plenty who have a flu jab every year would test positive for flu… |
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Cos it prevents stupid avoidable scenarios like this occuring which have a huge negative impact for many others. Everyone who doesn't have a concrete medical excuse for not getting a vaccine is a flipping moron. There are very very few situations where individuals with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be getting vaccinated, and I highly doubt any professional athletes are not getting vaccinated on time because they've got one of them.
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Genuine question - why would you choose not to have the vaccine?
I'm still waiting to hear someone give a sensible reason. I appreciate some can't have the vaccine, and that question is not aimed at them.
By having the vaccine, it's my way of helping to protect those that want the vaccine but can't have it. There are still many vulnerable people out there and we all have to do our bit to protect each other.
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Genuine question - why would you choose not to have the vaccine?
I'm still waiting to hear someone give a sensible reason. I appreciate some can't have the vaccine, and that question is not aimed at them.
By having the vaccine, it's my way of helping to protect those that want the vaccine but can't have it. There are still many vulnerable people out there and we all have to do our bit to protect each other.
Surely it’s because we have a choice, do you need a reason? I’m sure someone could bore us with tales of vaccine efficacy but that’s not really relevant. It’s about choice, simple as that. I choose not to have a flu vaccine, I’ve not tested at any point. I don’t feel anymore or less guilty. I don’t see an issue if people want it, I won’t call them out or mock them same should be seen the opposite way. In this case vaccines are irrelevant. Plenty testing positive having had a vaccine…will the next rule be ‘they’re not quite poorly enoug so can play/work’… |
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Not many of our players live local, assuming they did want the vaccine, travelling wouldn’t have been an issue surely…
We were essentially pushed in to having it at work, but could only go to two places, both over 40 miles from where I live.
Worrying about the vaccine is flipping pointless anyway so we may as wel abandon the rules given plenty with it test positive still…much like I’m sure plenty who have a flu jab every year would test positive for flu…
But that's not the point. I'm not going out of my way to get a vaccine to protect me from something I've already caught and fought off. Yes, you can really push to get it, but why should you have to do that. Just because everybody was offered the chance to get jabbed on the 19th June doesn't mean that everybody was able to get jabbed near to that date. Centres near me were fully booked for weeks. Agree with not worrying about it anyway. The whole protecting other people is a massive fallacy. You still catch it and still spread it, it just reduces the chance that you'll get seriously ill. It's time we get back to normal and stop shutting everything down because you walked past somebody with covid |
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well i wish players involved a full recovery, it isnt pleasant
Know probably 10 people who have had it, myself included. Many are 40+ and felt a little run down for a week. Some wouldn’t even know they had it without a positive test. These are professional footballers, I think they’ll be fine. |
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Then surely you believe that people have principles and morals and therefore choose not to have it?
I will probably get hundreds of red crosses but anyone who chooses not to have the vaccination, unless for medical reasons, are nothing short of irresponsible and selfish in my humble opinion. No doubt they are happy to have lockdown lifted and their freedom and life back to some sort of normality on the back of the rest of us having the jabs on their behalf, but they won’t have it themselves. Give me strength. #UTM |
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Not so much the vaccine being the problem then is it? Mass testing is but to allow that to be dropped more or less everyone (on earth) needs to be vaccinated. It is of course a social duty to have it as it provides reduced (but not entirely eradicated) transmission and reduction of severity of symptoms allowing healthcare to function at a manageable level.
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Not so much the vaccine being the problem then is it? Mass testing is but to allow that to be dropped more or less everyone (on earth) needs to be vaccinated. It is of course a social duty to have it as it provides reduced (but not entirely eradicated) transmission and reduction of severity of symptoms allowing healthcare to function at a manageable level.
Mass testing has always been an issue but mass vaccination isn’t really helping either of positive tests are still on the up… People argued that if you stopped mass testing numbers would drop naturally and people questioned that…if we stop mass testing now would that be ok? Many still testing themselves have had both vaccinations and teat positive so perhaps both are futile… |
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Know probably 10 people who have had it, myself included. Many are 40+ and felt a little run down for a week. Some wouldn’t even know they had it without a positive test.
These are professional footballers, I think they’ll be fine.
no i agree with you mate im sure they will be fine, but having had it myself when classed as vulnerable ( admittedly its different circumstances) it really isnt nice |
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If there wasn’t mass testing, the vast majority of folk would have a bad cold, chesty cough etc…plenty of folk work and go about their business with this…has Covid eradicated the common cold?
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Cos it prevents stupid avoidable scenarios like this occuring which have a huge negative impact for many others. Everyone who doesn't have a concrete medical excuse for not getting a vaccine is a flipping moron. There are very very few situations where individuals with pre-existing conditions shouldn't be getting vaccinated, and I highly doubt any professional athletes are not getting vaccinated on time because they've got one of them.
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I mean top notch social control again…I mean where does it all end. PCR tests aren’t a legal requirement, neither is a lateral flow, nor is a vaccine…
Just flipping go about life as normal and get on with it…
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Let's hope none of the players infected (which will probably end up being most of them - Delta is as infectious as chickenpox), are too poorly with the virus and don't have any longer-lasting effects, as a significant number of those infected do. They all ought to be as fit as a fiddle and with strong immune systems, so hopefully not too bad, especially assuming they've had at least one dose of the vaccine. It seems the strongest immune response is measured if you've had prior infection, followed by a dose of vaccine. Hopefully, the reverse is true as well so we don't have to worry about reinfections later in the season.
It will become endemic like colds and the flu, hopefully not before too long, but we're a long way from that yet.
Incidentally, the currently-available numbers now seem to show you've only got about 50% protection against infection with Delta if you're fully-vaccinated and can still spread it, so it's likely that we'll see quite a few games suspended over the course of the season. Well over 90% protection against hospitalisation, even from a single dose, however so the very low risk to the players should be reduced greatly.
I don't advocate fines for those not fully-vaccinated, as the timescale for some of the younger ones is a bit tight, but it would be idiotic if any of the players hadn't received a first dose.
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no i agree with you mate im sure they will be fine, but having had it myself when classed as vulnerable ( admittedly its different circumstances) it really isnt nice
Forgot to say I agree with your sentiment also. Even having a cough is annoying enough, but a few days they’ll be fine. Sorry to hear about your experience and hope all is well now. |
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There are times I feel that this football club is cursed!!
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Know probably 10 people who have had it, myself included. Many are 40+ and felt a little run down for a week. Some wouldn’t even know they had it without a positive test.
These are professional footballers, I think they’ll be fine.
Give this a read: [url]https://uclanlive.uclan.ac.uk/2021/08/10/im-lying-in-an-ambulance-bed-thinking-im-done-chester-fc-boss-anthony-johnson-on-his-battle-with-covid-19/amp/?__twitter_impression=true[/url] |
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You see that number where it says number of deaths from COVID, come back to me when you speak to someone suffering from it and you hear it in their voice how worried they are. And then try to go through the grieving process where you can’t see them one last time
My ‘normal life’ is severely fu(ked up for the foreseeable future and my kids won’t see their grandad again.
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Know probably 10 people who have had it, myself included. Many are 40+ and felt a little run down for a week. Some wouldn’t even know they had it without a positive test.
These are professional footballers, I think they’ll be fine.
On the flip side, I’m in my mid-30’s, tested positive 3 weeks ago and it absolutely wiped me out! Couldn’t get out of bed for 10 days and still feeling the impact now with fatigue and headaches. I’m double jabbed and otherwise perfectly healthy. It affects all people differently and certainly wouldn’t wish it on anybody! |
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Genuine question - why would you choose not to have the vaccine?
I'm still waiting to hear someone give a sensible reason. I appreciate some can't have the vaccine, and that question is not aimed at them.
By having the vaccine, it's my way of helping to protect those that want the vaccine but can't have it. There are still many vulnerable people out there and we all have to do our bit to protect each other.
100% this! I was double jabbed having the 2nd one on June 8th. On July 8th I had a positive tests and felt rough for around 2 weeks and was knickered for 2 weeks after that. I could live with it though, not sure what would have happened if I'd have not had the vaccine. |
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On the flip side, I’m in my mid-30’s, tested positive 3 weeks ago and it absolutely wiped me out! Couldn’t get out of bed for 10 days and still feeling the impact now with fatigue and headaches. I’m double jabbed and otherwise perfectly healthy.
It affects all people differently and certainly wouldn’t wish it on anybody!
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I’m not sure you understand that the vaccine isn’t really stopping positive tests…
I'm not sure you understand what you're talking about. Two doses significantly reduce the liklihood of testing positive when being in close contact with someone who has covid. Here's a quote from [url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005085/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_29.pdf]Public Health England's Vaccine Surveillance Report from July 22nd[/url]: "With the Pfizer-BioNTech, estimates of effectiveness against infection range from around 55 to 70%, with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine they range from around 60 to 70%. With 2 of 2 doses of either vaccine effectiveness against infection is estimated at around 65 to 90%" But yeah please do carry on your armchair epidemiologist routine, which always seems oddly hostile towards vaccinations and skewed with indifference towards personal responsibility 👍 |
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This was covered earlier in the thread - they've all had ample time to sort out both doses. No excuses.
It wasn’t because they haven’t had ‘ample time’. I booked mine at the very first opportunity and got it 10th June and I’ve only just had my second vaccine and I’m 29 |
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I'm not sure you understand what you're talking about. Two doses significantly reduce the liklihood of testing positive when being in close contact with someone who has covid. Here's a quote from [url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005085/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_29.pdf]Public Health England's Vaccine Surveillance Report from July 22nd[/url]:
"With the Pfizer-BioNTech, estimates of effectiveness against infection range from around 55 to 70%, with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine they range from around 60 to 70%. With 2 of 2 doses of either vaccine effectiveness against infection is estimated at around 65 to 90%"
But yeah please do carry on your armchair epidemiologist routine, which always seems oddly hostile towards vaccinations and skewed with indifference towards personal responsibility 👍
Personal responsibility? I mean what do you mean by that? If by accepting that some want it and some don’t then yeh, definitely… I’ve never said people shops to have it but feel free to imply I, like others have…it’s about freedom of choice. It greatly reduces the possibility of testing positive yet so many who have had the vaccine still test positive? Didn’t they produce literature to say it greatly reduces symptoms? It’s all becoming ridiculous. We all know our game won’t go ahead and this will go on for as long as people allow it now… |
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Anti-vaxxers often talk about personal rights but never collective responsibility. Not sure what we can deduce from that.
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Anti-vaxxers often talk about personal rights but never collective responsibility. Not sure what we can deduce from that.
Interesting that people assume those that choose not to have this one vaccine are anti vaxxers isn’t it… |
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I will probably get hundreds of red crosses but anyone who chooses not to have the vaccination, unless for medical reasons, are nothing short of irresponsible and selfish in my humble opinion. No doubt they are happy to have lockdown lifted and their freedom and life back to some sort of normality on the back of the rest of us having the jabs on their behalf, but they won’t have it themselves. Give me strength. #UTM
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100% this!
I was double jabbed having the 2nd one on June 8th. On July 8th I had a positive tests and felt rough for around 2 weeks and was knickered for 2 weeks after that. I could live with it though, not sure what would have happened if I'd have not had the vaccine.
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Interesting that people assume those that choose not to have this one vaccine are anti vaxxers isn’t it…
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Genuine question - why would you choose not to have the vaccine?
I'm still waiting to hear someone give a sensible reason. I appreciate some can't have the vaccine, and that question is not aimed at them.
By having the vaccine, it's my way of helping to protect those that want the vaccine but can't have it. There are still many vulnerable people out there and we all have to do our bit to protect each other.
Again, to clarify, i have had 1, and 2nd today. We at work, have an extreme anti-covid guy. Its not real etc etc. We do random tests as i work in transport, so give our drivers random test throughout the week. He straight up refuses to have one, but we can't punish him in any way as it's not a legal recruitment for us to regularly test our drivers. If you get into a 'debate' with him, he just constantly refers to Youtube videos, which is about right... |
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Vaccine or no vaccine, if any player has covid symptoms and has been around other players, which he most definately has, then isolation will come into effect, so we wont have many available to put a team out this saturday, so i presume the game will be postponed, like other games have in the EFL.
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That's the way it's going, set us all at each others throats and save them the hard work.
Said this from the start but apparently those that say it are tin hat wearers. I actually smile when someone says I’m antivaxxer (I had mine months and months ago out of respect for my boss) I just choose to defend people’s right to make the decision themselves rather than blackmailed in to it. I’ve had the Hep B jab becauee personally, for me, given the job roles I’ve had, that’s been far more of an importance than say this or the flu jab… |
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Ah, its on the Telegraph now, game in doubt, awaiting tests
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maybe not, but I believe it's a moral one.
I wonder how moral some people were when they didn't get the flu jab Or smoked indoors until it was banned.. Etc... I really don't agree with people using the "Moral code". There's plenty of examples of immoral actions every day. It seems to me that the use of the word "moral" is a form of psychological coercion and should not be used. Everybody has a right to freedom of choic whether you agree with it or not. It's clear that most people believe in freedom of choice just by the amount of immoral actions they use on a day to day basis. I.e. Using petrol and diesel cars, using planes to fly aboard. Yet climate change is the biggest threat to the planet, more so than covid. If you really believed in the moral duty, why not start with the climate change? Or is that just a porblem for the new generation to solve? |
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Vaccine or no vaccine, if any player has covid symptoms and has been around other players, which he most definately has, then isolation will come into effect, so we wont have many available to put a team out this saturday, so i presume the game will be postponed, like other games have in the EFL.
At what point does this all stop? At what point does society get fed up of this though, I’m not just talking about football either…we had to shut school last two weeks of term, staff, pupils and parents were understandably fuming… |
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Mass testing has always been an issue but mass vaccination isn’t really helping either of positive tests are still on the up…
People argued that if you stopped mass testing numbers would drop naturally and people questioned that…if we stop mass testing now would that be ok?
Many still testing themselves have had both vaccinations and teat positive so perhaps both are futile…
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Vaccine or no vaccine, if any player has covid symptoms and has been around other players, which he most definately has, then isolation will come into effect, so we wont have many available to put a team out this saturday, so i presume the game will be postponed, like other games have in the EFL.
Nope, not any longer, if you're double jabbed you no longer need to self-isolate if you've been in contact with a positive case. It's simply advised you go and get a PCR test in that situation, but doing so isn't even compulsory - https://www.theguardian.com/wo.....self-isolation-covidThis alone should have been reason enough to ensure the entire squad was double vaccinated at the earliest possible opportunity, to prevent scenarios exactly like the one currently unfolding. |
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Vaccine or no vaccine, if any player has covid symptoms and has been around other players, which he most definately has, then isolation will come into effect, so we wont have many available to put a team out this saturday, so i presume the game will be postponed, like other games have in the EFL.
Incorrect. If people have had the vaccine, they no longer have to isolate. They are advised to take a PCR, then regular lateral flow test. If all negative, they can carry on. In fact, they can carry on whilst they await PCR results aswell |
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Bromley Football Club can today confirm that we have been contacted by Grimsby Town and The National League to inform us that a number of the Grimsby Town first team squad have returned positive lateral flow test results.
Grimsby Town are currently awaiting the results of conducted PCR tests from the affected members of the squad to confirm the validity of the original results ahead of Saturday’s season opener.
Once any further updates are received, we will communicate this as soon as possible.
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Again, to clarify, i have had 1, and 2nd today.
We at work, have an extreme anti-covid guy.
Its not real etc etc.
We do random tests as i work in transport, so give our drivers random test throughout the week.
He straight up refuses to have one, but we can't punish him in any way as it's not a legal recruitment for us to regularly test our drivers.
If you get into a 'debate' with him, he just constantly refers to Youtube videos, which is about right...
It amazes me how those antivax change their minds when they get covid and realise they will die. Too late for them but other antivaxers still take no notice of people who were previously on their side. My own personal view is that they are selfish as, apart from medical reasons, having the jab will help themselves and others. Life is precious to all. |
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I wonder how moral some people were when they didn't get the flu jab
Or smoked indoors until it was banned.. Etc...
I really don't agree with people using the "Moral code". There's plenty of examples of immoral actions every day.
It seems to me that the use of the word "moral" is a form of psychological coercion and should not be used.
Everybody has a right to freedom of choic whether you agree with it or not.
It's clear that most people believe in freedom of choice just by the amount of immoral actions they use on a day to day basis.
I.e. Using petrol and diesel cars, using planes to fly aboard. Yet climate change is the biggest threat to the planet, more so than covid.
If you really believed in the moral duty, why not start with the climate change?
And there in lies the issue…those banging the ‘moral’ drum essentially, immorally’ call those who’ve invoked their right to choose. You can’t tell someone it’s their moral duty or coerce folk in to having a vaccine by using some chap on his alleged death bed and then when they choose not to have it call them names like moron or antivaxxer…the irony is there for all to see… |
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Incorrect.
If people have had the vaccine, they no longer have to isolate.
They are advised to take a PCR, then regular lateral flow test.
If all negative, they can carry on.
In fact, they can carry on whilst they await PCR results aswell
Wonder when our government start charging for PCR tests for those without symptoms… What you’ve said is the current guidance, or certainly my understanding but isn’t the debate here that not enough of our squad have had the vaccine… |
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It amazes me how those antivax change their minds when they get covid and realise they will die. Too late for them but other antivaxers still take no notice of people who were previously on their side. My own personal view is that they are selfish as, apart from medical reasons, having the jab will help themselves and others. Life is precious to all.
Did have 1 converstion. He said - But its proven that it makes your arm magnetic, things will stick to your arm. If that's the case, what difference does that make to me pal? And the whole tracking you excuse is mind blowing. Your phone you carry 24/7, knows exactly where you are |
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Did have 1 converstion.
He said - But its proven that it makes your arm magnetic, things will stick to your arm.
If that's the case, what difference does that make to me pal?
And the whole tracking you excuse is mind blowing.
Your phone you carry 24/7, knows exactly where you are
These nutters get lumped in the same bracket as those who simply choose not to have it… Covid had worked a treat at pitting society against each other though… |
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There are times I feel that this football club is cursed!!
Look on the bright (?) side When it goes mammaries up Hurst can start blaming Covid for everything too just like Holloway |
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Look on the bright (?) side When it goes mammaries up Hurst can start blaming Covid for everything too just like Holloway
 On the other hand it buys him a bit more time for finding the infamously missing striker? |
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I only quoted what Davec said upon opening this topic, saying that some players arent double jabbed, so some will have to self isolate, only saying, match wont go ahead in my opinion.
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Look on the bright (?) side When it goes mammaries up Hurst can start blaming Covid for everything too just like Holloway
Must be the last excuse left in the bag for him. |
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What are the reasons ( other than medical reasons ) why anybody with even a teeny weeny bit of brain matter would be against having the jab.
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And there in lies the issue…those banging the ‘moral’ drum essentially, immorally’ call those who’ve invoked their right to choose.
You can’t tell someone it’s their moral duty or coerce folk in to having a vaccine by using some chap on his alleged death bed and then when they choose not to have it call them names like moron or antivaxxer…the irony is there for all to see…
Are you just an anti-vaxxer, or is covid not real? |
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Hope you're recovering OK now.
All good mow thank you DB |
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Are you just an anti-vaxxer, or is covid not real?
I prefer the ‘climate change isn’t real’ agenda… |
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Those that give red crosses for this post are absolute selfish morons. A gold star from me for stating what is common sense.
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Let’s face it…we won’t be playing…starting on the back foot.
Could we explore whether we can play on say the Wednesday?
Our first game will be Weymouth…
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Interesting that people assume those that choose not to have this one vaccine are anti vaxxers isn’t it…
No, just selfish w@nkers |
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I'm not sure you understand what you're talking about. Two doses significantly reduce the liklihood of testing positive when being in close contact with someone who has covid. Here's a quote from [url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005085/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_29.pdf]Public Health England's Vaccine Surveillance Report from July 22nd[/url]:
"With the Pfizer-BioNTech, estimates of effectiveness against infection range from around 55 to 70%, with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine they range from around 60 to 70%. With 2 of 2 doses of either vaccine effectiveness against infection is estimated at around 65 to 90%"
But yeah please do carry on your armchair epidemiologist routine, which always seems oddly hostile towards vaccinations and skewed with indifference towards personal responsibility 👍
Unfortunately, the figures quoted in the Surveillance Reports aren't for Delta alone, but for Alpha and Delta. Alpha has pretty much died out now because Delta is so much more transmissible and has more antibody escape so they show an overly rosy picture. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the current data seems to indicate the fully vaccinated receive around 50% protection against symptomatic infection (not known yet how many of these are asymptomatically infected). The numbers from Israel seem to show efficacy of around 40%, but they are all Pfizer and given the doses 3 weeks apart which it is thought probably doesn't prompt as strong an immune reponse as our 8 to 12 week spacing. You're right, however, that the main thing is the protection against serious illness. Some (perhaps even most) of those double vaccinated who catch Delta can still infect others, but are less likely to do so because viral loads decline much more quickly. The cat is out of the bag now so everyone is going to be exposed to Covid at some point over the next year. Best to get your antibodies from the vaccines than from infection - it will reduce your risk and that of others. Longer-term, it will hopefully become just another cold but it would be nice to be left with as little death and long-term illness by the time we eventually get to this point. Some years away yet, I'd guess. Oh, also, the vaccines provide a stronger immune response than prior infection. |
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dont be so bloody stupid. can catch covid despite being double jabbed anyway
Only 1/20th the chance of catching it though. |
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No, just selfish w@nkers
That include those advised not to have it? |
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I’m not sure you understand that the vaccine isn’t really stopping positive tests…
Flipping heck. You’ve got your tinfoil hat well and truly on today. Vaccines reduce the risks. Do you believe this is all a conspiracy by the world’s medical establishment? |
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BTW does this mean someone got the dart board out of the skip
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That include those advised not to have it?
Which ‘group’ have been advised not to take the jab!?! Brexiteers? Europhiles? Vegetarians? Wombats? |
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Not many of our players live local, assuming they did want the vaccine, travelling wouldn’t have been an issue surely…
We were essentially pushed in to having it at work, but could only go to two places, both over 40 miles from where I live.
Worrying about the vaccine is flipping pointless anyway so we may as wel abandon the rules given plenty with it test positive still…much like I’m sure plenty who have a flu jab every year would test positive for flu…
Those players who don’t live near Grimsby are more likely to be nearer large centres of population where there are a lot more places to get vaccinated. So they have even less excuse. |
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Surely it’s because we have a choice, do you need a reason?
I’m sure someone could bore us with tales of vaccine efficacy but that’s not really relevant. It’s about choice, simple as that.
I choose not to have a flu vaccine, I’ve not tested at any point. I don’t feel anymore or less guilty. I don’t see an issue if people want it, I won’t call them out or mock them same should be seen the opposite way.
In this case vaccines are irrelevant. Plenty testing positive having had a vaccine…will the next rule be ‘they’re not quite poorly enoug so can play/work’…
Yeah but why won’t you have one? |
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On another note from a clubs point of view and thinking about long covid.
can you imagine the impact it will have on the club of any of our players getting long covid and not being able to play again. Imagine if they are on a 2 or 3 year deal, imagine if they are earning 9k a week at tbis level or if its grealish for example, and tbis has come about becuase they either didnt want a jab or juat didnt get around to it. Clubs are unable to control this and cannot legally put anything in contracts
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If Megan wants the jab - Megan gets a jab
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Give this a read: [url]https://uclanlive.uclan.ac.uk/2021/08/10/im-lying-in-an-ambulance-bed-thinking-im-done-chester-fc-boss-anthony-johnson-on-his-battle-with-covid-19/amp/?__twitter_impression=true[/url]
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Flipping heck. You’ve got your tinfoil hat well and truly on today.
Vaccines reduce the risks. Do you believe this is all a conspiracy by the world’s medical establishment?
Only the ones involved with senior politicians around the world… My original comment isn’t wrong though. I didn’t question the efficacy, just the fact that people double jabbed still test positive… Odd though, I can turn up at a festival having symptoms but if I prove I’ve had my vaccine I get let in… |
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Which ‘group’ have been advised not to take the jab!?!
Brexiteers? Europhiles? Vegetarians? Wombats?
Erm…three of my colleagues, one of which spent a week in hospital after her first jab… |
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Simple fact is we won’t play…people will lose money this weekend and we’ll already have a game in hand…
First game will be Weymouth and it’s even more annoying that our game against Stockport has been moved to a Tuesday night…
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Only the ones involved with senior politicians around the world…
My original comment isn’t wrong though. I didn’t question the efficacy, just the fact that people double jabbed still test positive…
Odd though, I can turn up at a festival having symptoms but if I prove I’ve had my vaccine I get let in…
Your original comment is wrong. You said "mass vaccination isn’t really helping either of positive tests are still on the up..." which is clearly nonsense. The vaccines are perhaps not as effective at preventing the transmission but in terms of numbers of people in hospital and the numbers of deaths they are clearly successful. |
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Personal responsibility? I mean what do you mean by that? If by accepting that some want it and some don’t then yeh, definitely…
I’ve never said people shops to have it but feel free to imply I, like others have…it’s about freedom of choice.
It greatly reduces the possibility of testing positive yet so many who have had the vaccine still test positive? Didn’t they produce literature to say it greatly reduces symptoms?
It’s all becoming ridiculous. We all know our game won’t go ahead and this will go on for as long as people allow it now…
It does on both counts. No one in the medical or scientific community ever said the vaccine would eradicate the risk of catching it or of getting ill. The risks of both are lower. People still catch it despite being double jabbed because such a big proportion of the population have had the jabs. The infection rate would be much higher if so many people hadn’t had the vaccination. Why is that so difficult to understand? |
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Interesting that people assume those that choose not to have this one vaccine are anti vaxxers isn’t it…
This is just another example of superbly executed manipulation by the media in the UK. There has been a very dangerous narrative throughout the whole pandemic that anyone questioning the rollout of the vaccine is immediately pigeonholed as a tin foil hat wearing anti-vaxxer. I've had my both jabs personally, but I did a lot of reading before deciding to do so. I've been flabbergasted by the amount of intelligent people I know that didn't do this and were onboard with the vaccine right from the off. The BBC wouldn't lie to us after all, would they... |
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This is just another example of superbly executed manipulation by the media in the UK. There has been a very dangerous narrative throughout the whole pandemic that anyone questioning the rollout of the vaccine is immediately pigeonholed as a tin foil hat wearing anti-vaxxer. I've had my both jabs personally, but I did a lot of reading before deciding to do so. I've been flabbergasted by the amount of intelligent people I know that didn't do this and were onboard with the vaccine right from the off.
The BBC wouldn't lie to us after all, would they...
There is a difference though between doing your due diligence and not understanding whether a vaccine has been successful or not because the vaccine doesn't 100% stop the risk of transmission. |
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Your original comment is wrong. You said "mass vaccination isn’t really helping either of positive tests are still on the up..." which is clearly nonsense. The vaccines are perhaps not as effective at preventing the transmission but in terms of numbers of people in hospital and the numbers of deaths they are clearly successful.
I wasn’t talking about hospital admissions or deaths… |
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These nutters get lumped in the same bracket as those who simply choose not to have it…
Covid had worked a treat at pitting society against each other though…
Covid didn’t put people against each other. People like you choosing to believe nonsense is what sets people off. |
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These nutters get lumped in the same bracket as those who simply choose not to have it…
Covid had worked a treat at pitting society against each other though…
I’ve got news got you. You are one of those nutters. |
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It does on both counts. No one in the medical or scientific community ever said the vaccine would eradicate the risk of catching it or of getting ill. The risks of both are lower.
People still catch it despite being double jabbed because such a big proportion of the population have had the jabs. The infection rate would be much higher if so many people hadn’t had the vaccination.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
It isn’t…I do have an issue with the fact the rhetoric prior to the vaccine roll out was very much centred on eradicating it which people bought in to when the rest of us knew it meant lowering risk etc. |
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The sooner this thread gets removed the better. What started as an early hours rumour was soon confirmed by the club, but now it has turned into a mass verbal brawl on a personal level that needs to be removed rather than moved to non-football.
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Maybe try to steer this back to football a bit lads before it gets moved? There’s a very long thread on the other board to argue about the moral intricacies of vaccines. (Didn’t think I’d ever write that on the football forum on the fishy)
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I’ve got news got you. You are one of those nutters.
How can you be antivaxxer when you’ve had the vaccine? |
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Give this a read: [url]https://uclanlive.uclan.ac.uk/2021/08/10/im-lying-in-an-ambulance-bed-thinking-im-done-chester-fc-boss-anthony-johnson-on-his-battle-with-covid-19/amp/?__twitter_impression=true[/url]
Pretty awful, but a very very very rare occurrence. Hence why it makes the news nationally any time anyone under 50 gets properly ill from it |
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Maybe try to steer this back to football a bit lads before it gets moved? There’s a very long thread on the other board to argue about the moral intricacies of vaccines. (Didn’t think I’d ever write that on the football forum on the fishy)
As I’ve said three times now, the game will be off. We’ve all argued our points but the game will be off. People will lose money on train tickets etc and many won’t be able to attend the rearranged fixture. May be people are more annoyed because we’re all looking forward to the start of the season and that isn’t gonna happen for another week… |
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I decided quite early on in the preseason that I probably wouldn’t be attending any away matches this season due to this exact thing potentially happening. I hope everyone can reclaim as much money as they can if it doesn’t happen.
One positive to take from this is that we will more than likely now start our campaign at home.
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I decided quite early on in the preseason that I probably wouldn’t be attending any away matches this season due to this exact thing potentially happening. I hope everyone can reclaim as much money as they can if it doesn’t happen.
One positive to take from this is that we will more than likely now start our campaign at home.
I get this, and I understand peoples reasons. Assuming we don’t play I’ll only lose the price of a ticket as I was driving. I think the frustration is the fact we’ve waited what feels like an eternity for the season and to be allowed back in and the short notice… |
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Longer-term, this could have quite an impact for the first few weeks of the season.
It's an airborne virus which appears to be just about as infectious as chickenpox. This means it is quite possible that most of the squad will have been exposed if they've been indoors together at any point (which you'd assume they must have done). Many of them may shrug it off, either innately or due to vaccination, others could be asymptomatic, but if they test positive following a PCR, they will still have to isolate. Those players with families who catch it are likely to pass it on (almost 100% household attack rate in the cases in Australia), so you have to consider that they might need to stay at home to help look after their children, even after recovering themselves.
Even with a quick and full recovery from infection, you're talking about 10 days of isolation with no chance to keep fitness up properly - and they shouldn't be working out if they are infected as there are plenty of indications of heart issues which can arise from Covid infection.
Figure we'll miss the few fixtures of the season at least and will be playing catch up from the off, even if none of the players suffer too much. It will also be difficult for Hurst to sign a new striker if he can't meet him or the player can't come to the club for a medical!
I don't expect we'll be the only team in the same boat. Current prevalence is very high and will only get higher when the schools reopen in September, so I think we'll see quite a number of clubs forced to cancel games, especially during the next few months. It's going to be another stop-start-stop season, I think.
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I wasn’t talking about hospital admissions or deaths…
Irrelevant what you were talking about, it still shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand. The most optimistic hopes for a vaccine were that it would be able to stop transmission completely. The more realistic expectations were that it would dramatically reduce the risk of hospital admission or death which is has done so resoundingly. You claimed "mass vaccination isn’t really helping either of positive tests are still on the up..." which is total rubbish. Mass vaccination is clearly helping or we'd have infection numbers far higher than we had in winter as there haven't been any social distancing or lockdown restrictions for a month and we'd have deaths and hospital admissions equal to or greater than during that time. You're either being deliberately obtuse when picking or choosing which statistics you look at to call it a success or not (and even then, the infection numbers now are lower than when lockdown restrictions were in place so it has been a success) or you have literally no clue what you're talking about. My guess is it's a mixture of the two. |
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Longer-term, this could have quite an impact for the first few weeks of the season.
It's an airborne virus which appears to be just about as infectious as chickenpox. This means it is quite possible that most of the squad will have been exposed if they've been indoors together at any point (which you'd assume they must have done). Many of them may shrug it off, either innately or due to vaccination, others could be asymptomatic, but if they test positive following a PCR, they will still have to isolate. Those players with families who catch it are likely to pass it on (almost 100% household attack rate in the cases in Australia), so you have to consider that they might need to stay at home to help look after their children, even after recovering themselves.
Even with a quick and full recovery from infection, you're talking about 10 days of isolation with no chance to keep fitness up properly - and they shouldn't be working out if they are infected as there are plenty of indications of heart issues which can arise from Covid infection.
Figure we'll miss the few fixtures of the season at least and will be playing catch up from the off, even if none of the players suffer too much. It will also be difficult for Hurst to sign a new striker if he can't meet him or the player can't come to the club for a medical!
I don't expect we'll be the only team in the same boat. Current prevalence is very high and will only get higher when the schools reopen in September, so I think we'll see quite a number of clubs forced to cancel games, especially during the next few months. It's going to be another stop-start-stop season, I think.
To be fair, I expect us to play catch up and suspect Covid will be a perfect excuse for teams from time to time but last year wasn’t that stop start. We played darts; we stopped…we then had a disaster… |
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Can we stop playing darts and get on with winning this tin pot league!
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Can we stop playing darts and get on with winning this tin pot league!
The highlight of all this was how quick the darts memes followed the clubs story on Twitter… |
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This whole thread is " Davec's" fault
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This whole thread is " Davec's" fault
For old times sake…can we blame Fenty? |
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Erm…three of my colleagues, one of which spent a week in hospital after her first jab…
Ok, so they are probably 1 of the 0.001% * that are unable to accept the current jab due to a clinical reaction. The pharma companies, am pretty sure, are working non stop to try and make sure there are no unpleasant side affects. It is in their interest to to make even more ££££££. And am sure that your ‘colleague’ is taking every precaution necessary* to make sure they don’t catch the virus. You know, only going out when necessary, wearing a face mask in public, sanitising hands, working from home etc etc etc * this may not be correct!!!!! |
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Surely it’s because we have a choice, do you need a reason?
I’m sure someone could bore us with tales of vaccine efficacy but that’s not really relevant. It’s about choice, simple as that.
I choose not to have a flu vaccine, I’ve not tested at any point. I don’t feel anymore or less guilty. I don’t see an issue if people want it, I won’t call them out or mock them same should be seen the opposite way.
In this case vaccines are irrelevant. Plenty testing positive having had a vaccine…will the next rule be ‘they’re not quite poorly enoug so can play/work’…
Of course it is a choice but in a situation like a football club that depends on close contact and trying to avoid a situation of having games postponed and fans being out of pocket then the club should have insisted on all players being vaccinated My son is 21 and has had both jabs in the usual 12 week wait. |
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For old times sake…can we blame Fenty?
He based last season’s strategy on stuff like this. |
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He based last season’s strategy on stuff like this.
Who did? |
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Would it not be wise for the players to wear masks when together indoors?
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Who did?
I mean I hated Fenty more than most but to be honest I didn’t ever blame him for the Covid issue and games being off…the contacts perhaps but only one person was at fault for games being off… |
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This is what makes me so angry at the likes of Aldi spouting his nonsense.
Sadly there is no point getting into any sort of debate with antivaxxers, Covid deniers, or those who say they are neither but promote personal freedom and choice.- It's like a religion to them and mere facts will always be trumped by opinions. Just as well to shut down the thread I reckon...it will go nowhere other than in circles. |
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For old times sake…can we blame Fenty?
Always! |
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Apologies to anyone this upsets, but I have taken the decision to close this thread as it has gone off into another debate adout the Covid vaccination, of which there is a thread on the non-footy forum.
When and if the decision comes that Saturday's game has been called off then a fresh thred can be started.
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