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mariner91
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Quoted from Bigdog


£900k

Which amplifies the necessity to get out of this division this season. As it stands, from next season, even with a vastly superior income, we won't be able to outspend virtually any club in the National League, the likes of Kings Lynn, Dover, Maidenhead etc will enjoy a level playing field with us. It's a very scary prospect..

This season is more critical than some of the be patient, vacuous virtue signalling long term project claims.. that's for sure..


That’s outrageous if that stands. Just makes a mockery of competition. If we had a good season and had around 3000 season tickets and averaged 5000 at home games our income from tickets alone would be significantly higher than that. Eastleigh and their 1800 fans could match our spending with the help of their benefactor and we wouldn’t even be allowed to spend all our income?! That can’t be allowed surely?
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Clubs have been getting around salary caps or similar initiatives since before the days of professionalism. If you have got the money from your own business activities (as opposed to gifts from the directors) you should be able to spend it.


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Quoted from Mariner93er
Like a lot of people, I was slightly taken aback yesterday when Chesterfield signed Tshimanga, as id secretly hoped we’d be in for him.

However, it’s a big risk on their part. According to the boreham wood chairman, the value they set was aimed at league 1 and championship clubs, and he was shocked when Chesterfield met it. It’s a similar situation with madden at Stockport and mullin at wrexham. Each could easily be playing a couple of divisions above, but there’s some big money being thrown around. Which is all well and good if you get promoted, but there’s only one automatic spot and one in the lottery of the play offs, meaning some of these teams will miss out (it’s safe to add notts county to the list of big spenders too). So it’s actually a high risk strategy.

And it’s not as if they’re guaranteed to make money from these players unless they bag a hatful. Tshimangas 24 (the youngest of all the strikers mentioned), so he’s going to have to excel in the next few years if they’re going to recuperate that fee. And I saw a stat the he only scored 12 goals from open play in over 40 games last season (the rest were penalties), which obviously isn’t bad but probably tells you why a team in a higher league aren’t willing to pay the money Chesterfield have for him. It could pay off, but it’s a big risk.

And I think stockwood’s article in the telegraph sums it up well, spending big doesn’t guarantee you success. Of course, it can help, but look at the Sutton’s and Barrows that have won the league. Coincidentally, Sutton’s top scorer only got 14 goals. I say only because it doesn’t look like we have a 14 goal player, although mcatee is being overlooked a lot here and could get double figures.

So I think we need to take a step back and not go over the top. Sure, we’d like a new striker but I actually think we’ve got a good forward line that will spread the goals around we’ll, which is actually a better recipe than relying on one man.


The ideal would be to have a top-notch non-league striker AND share the goals around. Defenders will be keeping tabs on said striker while the supporting cast cleans up.

Just on the most basic level, if we cannot compete financially in this league after new owners come in all self-financed and we don't owe a penny to anybody, we have the season ticket money and player sales in the bank with more to come, when WILL we be able to compete with the "big boys"?

The recruitment so far as been steady to give a backbone to the team, but now we need to see real intent. Who the hell wants to be playing second fiddle in non league??
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The club should really be pushing the boat and spending big to sign the next Martin Butler...
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Quoted from GrimRob
Clubs have been getting around salary caps or similar initiatives since before the days of professionalism. If you have got the money from your own business activities (as opposed to gifts from the directors) you should be able to spend it.


Clubs should be able to spend gifts from directors too, its where directors loan clubs money they can't pay back that there are problems.
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All the salary cap will do is push up transfer fees, signing on fees and girlfriends working in club shops for a very good hourly rate.
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Both Man City and Rangers made statements of intent. Grealish didn't help city win a cup and 10 men Malmo showed Rangers how to win in the Champions League qualifiers.

The intentions were there but the players could not perform on the pitch. The lesson here is simple, money does not guarantee success, regardless of who is signed and how much.

On the subject of local business helping out a club, I believe Scotish and Newcastle brewery employed Alan Shearer, who spent his spare time playing for Newcastle.


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So let's say the salary cap is upheld, where will that leave the likes of Wrexham if they don't go up?  Regardless of their income and how it's come about.  If you've got Mullin on the rumoured £6k a week that accounts for over a third of what they can spend on wages in a year.

For the rest of the squad it would leave them about £11k a week before breaching the limit.   Even without any other high earners, that's a difficult budget to maintain for a fighting squad.  

Can't even imagine you can offload someone like Mullin on that money mid-contract.
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I’d imagine it’d be something to what the efl tried implementing with players already on your books now counting towards it at first. Was that how it was going to be?
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Quoted from Mariner93er
I’d imagine it’d be something to what the efl tried implementing with players already on your books now counting towards it at first. Was that how it was going to be?


I think players already on your books were going to count as a league average. So if the average NL wage is £1k per week and they are paying £6k, most of his wage isn't even counted.

You would assume that's what is happening here. Clubs pushing the boat out to get promoted this season but knowing if they don't, they still have a big advantage next season.
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