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Nelly GTFC
August 11, 2021, 10:06am
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250K seems a reasonable fee to me, Tshimanga will smash tons of goals in for Chesterfield, they will probally sell him in a year or two for a few million, nice investment like Bogle was for us.


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I think Efete, Fox, McAtee and Sousa will do very well this season, players that can possibly demand a fee from other clubs.

I'm kind of somewhat disappointed/envious that Chesterfield have splashed out for Tshimanga, as I think he will easily sell on later down the line for millions and then a sell on fee on top.

Not much to look at in the leagues below with them being abandoned.  I don't mind the odd player in on loan, but wish we could get another Bogle type in with the potential to make money.  I wish we could do a Peterborough to be honest, they have always seemed to get it right.  Why can't we go down this route, speculate to accumulate.


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I think Efete, Fox, McAtee and Sousa will do very well this season, players that can possibly demand a fee from other clubs.

I'm kind of somewhat disappointed/envious that Chesterfield have splashed out for Tshimanga, as I think he will easily sell on later down the line for millions and then a sell on fee on top.

Not much to look at in the leagues below with them being abandoned.  I don't mind the odd player in on loan, but wish we could get another Bogle type in with the potential to make money.  I wish we could do a Peterborough to be honest, they have always seemed to get it right.  Why can't we go down this route, speculate to accumulate.


couple of points - firstly we are only just setting out on a new road, after years of stagnation/going backwards
secondly as you point out we've signed 3 or 4 players who are young enough to shine and be sold on
thirdly you haven't mentioned the youngsters coming through. We've just sold 2 good young players, we've said idehen and starbuck can go, but only with sell on clauses, and then you've got Khouri, Goundry, Boyd, Adlard, Essel & Tomlinson who've all been in and around the first team squad and who could all turn out to be th new Pollock/Grist
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couple of points - firstly we are only just setting out on a new road, after years of stagnation/going backwards
secondly as you point out we've signed 3 or 4 players who are young enough to shine and be sold on
thirdly you haven't mentioned the youngsters coming through. We've just sold 2 good young players, we've said idehen and starbuck can go, but only with sell on clauses, and then you've got Khouri, Goundry, Boyd, Adlard, Essel & Tomlinson who've all been in and around the first team squad and who could all turn out to be th new Pollock/Grist


Let’s not forget that these young lads were developed under the old regime under a terrific youth set up. If there’s one thing that the club was doing well, it was youth development, maybe in spite of rather than because of what was occurring elsewhere.
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couple of points - firstly we are only just setting out on a new road, after years of stagnation/going backwards
secondly as you point out we've signed 3 or 4 players who are young enough to shine and be sold on
thirdly you haven't mentioned the youngsters coming through. We've just sold 2 good young players, we've said idehen and starbuck can go, but only with sell on clauses, and then you've got Khouri, Goundry, Boyd, Adlard, Essel & Tomlinson who've all been in and around the first team squad and who could all turn out to be th new Pollock/Grist
I admire your optimism, if it takes us 3-5 years to get out of this division this time around, regardless of any manager it will be an achievement in my opinion, as this league is a lot lot stronger than when we left it.


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August 11, 2021, 11:27am

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250K seems a reasonable fee to me, Tshimanga will smash tons of goals in for Chesterfield, they will probally sell him in a year or two for a few million, nice investment like Bogle was for us.


He's 24 now and has been floating around non-league for the last 6 or 7 years. I reckon if he was going to make it big then he would have done so by now.


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He's 24 now and has been floating around non-league for the last 6 or 7 years. I reckon if he was going to make it big then he would have done so by now.


Jamie Vardy did 9 years in non-league before getting his move to Leicester 9 years ago at 25...
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Like a lot of people, I was slightly taken aback yesterday when Chesterfield signed Tshimanga, as id secretly hoped we’d be in for him.

However, it’s a big risk on their part. According to the boreham wood chairman, the value they set was aimed at league 1 and championship clubs, and he was shocked when Chesterfield met it. It’s a similar situation with madden at Stockport and mullin at wrexham. Each could easily be playing a couple of divisions above, but there’s some big money being thrown around. Which is all well and good if you get promoted, but there’s only one automatic spot and one in the lottery of the play offs, meaning some of these teams will miss out (it’s safe to add notts county to the list of big spenders too). So it’s actually a high risk strategy.

And it’s not as if they’re guaranteed to make money from these players unless they bag a hatful. Tshimangas 24 (the youngest of all the strikers mentioned), so he’s going to have to excel in the next few years if they’re going to recuperate that fee. And I saw a stat the he only scored 12 goals from open play in over 40 games last season (the rest were penalties), which obviously isn’t bad but probably tells you why a team in a higher league aren’t willing to pay the money Chesterfield have for him. It could pay off, but it’s a big risk.

And I think stockwood’s article in the telegraph sums it up well, spending big doesn’t guarantee you success. Of course, it can help, but look at the Sutton’s and Barrows that have won the league. Coincidentally, Sutton’s top scorer only got 14 goals. I say only because it doesn’t look like we have a 14 goal player, although mcatee is being overlooked a lot here and could get double figures.

So I think we need to take a step back and not go over the top. Sure, we’d like a new striker but I actually think we’ve got a good forward line that will spread the goals around we’ll, which is actually a better recipe than relying on one man.
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Quoted from Les Brechin


He's 24 now and has been floating around non-league for the last 6 or 7 years. I reckon if he was going to make it big then he would have done so by now.





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The Boreham Wood chairman seems to be indicating the fee they set was on the expectation of a League One/Championship club coming in for him. £250K sounds like the sort of an amount one of those would pay for a non-league player. Have Chesterfield got a sugardaddy to be splashing such big amounts of money around? You'd imagine he'll be on a decent whack there as well which increases the cost even further. With a salary cap coming in next season, are some clubs trying to splurge this year in a gamble to get out before they need to cut their cloth a bit tighter?
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