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The Humble pie factory must be in overdrive at the moment.
I've got a massive pie in the face coming my way along with plenty of others for doubting the way Southgate wants England play the game.
He's proved me wrong big style.
Such a strong manager, brings a player on then takes him off for the good of the game.
Come on England


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ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ Sorry did I miss something fell asleep watching England, I assume they've bored Denmark into defeat


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He's done better than I expected with his very defensive line-ups (6 or 7 defensive players in every game). What helps is that the squad is obviously much stronger and deeper than it has been for a long time and we've not had serious injury problems in the way many past England teams have. If Kane had been crocked early in the tournament, what would have happened? With the best will in the world, we don't have anyone else nearly as capable of leading the line and scoring goals. And that's including the fact that he was really sub-par for the first few games.
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ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ Sorry did I miss something fell asleep watching England, I assume they've bored Denmark into defeat


If that’s genuine then I actually feel sorry for you.


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Jeez wtf we’ve won every game bar 1 draw , scored 10 and let in 1 and people still moan ffs 🤦‍♂️


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Maybe he should find a time machine, go back to 96 and slot his penalty in the other way v Germany ?!  


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let's be honest, tonight was a proper 'British game' as opposed to last night which was a technically brilliant classic . england deserved their win, but Italy are hardly going to be quaking in their boots
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ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ Sorry did I miss something fell asleep watching England, I assume they've bored Denmark into defeat


Just like your posts! Grow up!
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Southgate can do nothing more to prove his  doubters,which I had become one of, utterly wrong. Tonight's performance was EVERYTHING previous teams wanted to be but never could,especially that 5 minute keep ball at the end. Sublime
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Jeez wtf we’ve won every game bar 1 draw , scored 10 and let in 1 and people still moan ffs 🤦‍♂️


With bells on, we are in the final. Winning is everything .southgate has played his hand perfectly. Anybody not impressed needs to give their head  a wobble . A brilliant set of results just brilliant utm
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They played well. Sterling was very impressive. I never for one minute think they’d make the final. Well done to them all. Spain would have been a much more difficult game, we could possibly beat the Italians………
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Some proper chin stroking going on here. I don't think Italy will be quaking in their boots and neither will England. As for England being very defensive, that's now 8 goals in 3 knockout games and 20 shots tonight including 10 on target. Italy rolled about for the last 10 minutes against Belgium and people were getting the horn about their game management but Denmark barely touched the ball for the last 10 tonight and I read someone complaining we didn't finish them off. Some serious inverse snobbery about this England team.
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let's be honest, tonight was a proper 'British game' as opposed to last night which was a technically brilliant classic . england deserved their win, but Italy are hardly going to be quaking in their boots


I thought Italy were vastly inferior to Spain. Spain were brilliant and Italy fought well

. Why should we be scared . This is 50:50 whoever takes what chances they get will win.
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I never thought we would get this far. By God am I happy to be wrong.

Southgate has impressed more and more. The way he conducts himself. The way he sets up the team. The substitutions (subbing the sub, everybody's’ favourite player). The respect he’s obviously got from the players. The way he’s handled the whole kneeling thing. RESPECT.

I remember when he was a young Palace player and reading comments them that he was a quiet leader and something different from the ‘typical’ footballer. They were right.

Thank you Gareth and the staff and players. Every single person in the set-up.


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You have to play the game in front of you and Denmark were never going to be technically brilliant like Spain.

Denmark are a very good side though and gave us a very good game. Southgate has respected the opposition every step of the way and got the big calls right. Taking Grealish off tonight will have taken some guts and also man management but we are through, we scored the winner with Grealish on the pitch so he helped tip the balance in our favour.
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Quoted from TAGG
The Humble pie factory must be in overdrive at the moment.
I've got a massive pie in the face coming my way along with plenty of others for doubting the way Southgate wants England play the game.
He's proved me wrong big style.
Such a strong manager, brings a player on then takes him off for the good of the game.
Come on England


Alan Buckley started that tactic - took off uninjured sub Keith Alexander at Rochdale not that long after he’d brought him on. Whilst on he missed an absolute sitter right in front of the away end with the game still at 0-0. Thankfully we got the winner.

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Alan Buckley started that tactic - took off uninjured sub Keith Alexander at Rochdale not that long after he’d brought him on. Whilst on he missed an absolute sitter right in front of the away end with the game still at 0-0. Thankfully we got the winner.



Remember that one.
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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Southgate is very understated and so is his team, cast your minds back to the circus that surrounded what was the so called golden generation of Beckham and co.
This squad remain under the radar between games and conduct themselves much like Southgate in that they focus on the next game rather than the media coverage.
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ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ Sorry did I miss something fell asleep watching England, I assume they've bored Denmark into defeat


Is there a gas leak in Madeley or something?
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ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ Sorry did I miss something fell asleep watching England, I assume they've bored Denmark into defeat


I tell you what I am usually bored shitless watching England but this tournament they've genuinely played brilliantly. Last night was an absolute masterclass again! Don't underestimate the Danish.
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Quoted from forza ivano
let's be honest, tonight was a proper 'British game' as opposed to last night which was a technically brilliant classic . england deserved their win, but Italy are hardly going to be quaking in their boots


As opposed to feigning injury and remonstrating with the ref at every opportunity. Some of our players did a bit of it last night but nothing like the Italians and the Spanish.  The Spanish are by far the worst.  I can't watch Spanish football for this reason.
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Never understood why its 'cool' to slate your nation...

Southgate - Incredible

Sterling - Incredible

Shaw - Incredible

Saka - Incredible

I can go on & on
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I forked out 70 quid at wembley the otehr week for an italian shirt. Anyone want it😂😂😂
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I forked out 70 quid at wembley the otehr week for an italian shirt. Anyone want it😂😂😂


Why did you want it in the first place?


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As opposed to feigning injury and remonstrating with the ref at every opportunity. Some of our players did a bit of it last night but nothing like the Italians and the Spanish.  The Spanish are by far the worst.  I can't watch Spanish football for this reason.


Yeah and Jack Grealish has just got really heavy hair. Every country has divers.
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Why did you want it in the first place?


drunk up, italy were playing, wanted to fit in
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drunk up, italy were playing, wanted to fit in


Good job you didn’t go the see the ladyboys of Bangkok


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Remember that poor Ukraine beat Spain and Portugal in recent times and drew with France in Paris.

Sterling:  still going for goal after 120 mins.  

We ran Denmark ragged as the game went on after 45 mins.  Early subs needed, then another in ET.  They finished with 10 men as another player went off injured.

Southgate has got everything right. His subs last night were made with a cool head.

Sterling was not a first team regular last season.  Southgate knew his quality.

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Remember that poor Ukraine beat Spain and Portugal in recent times and drew with France in Paris.

Sterling:  still going for goal after 120 mins.  

We ran Denmark ragged as the game went on after 45 mins.  Early subs needed, then another in ET.  They finished with 10 men as another player went off injured.

Southgate has got everything right. His subs last night were made with a cool head.

Sterling was not a first team regular last season.  Southgate knew his quality.



The only sub I did query was taking off Jack Grealish for the last half of extra time and bringing on the defensive Trippier. Rather than going for the 3rd goal to kill the game we went a lot more defensive and Denmark put us under a bit of pressure in that last 15.

However, it all worked out well so who I am to query his decision.


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As a big critic of Southgate I have to give him credit for finding ways to win in KO games. To be honest I don’t care if England play well or badly as long as they score more than the other lot. That was our attitude in 66 and it’s still mine today.

He has been blessed with a talented squad, not just one or two individuals and his biggest achievement for me is making them forget their clubs and play for Club England.

But he has been given the easiest ride I’ve ever known by the media even including Ramsey who had to take heavy flack for the “wingless wonders” selection and picking Hurst over Greaves and his so called dismissive attitude to the media when he protected his players. Southgate has never had real dirt digging or scam setting or “turnip” heading if his side played badly.


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Denmark put us under a bit of pressure for the first 2 minutes of the second half of extra time and then barely touched the ball. again.
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As a big critic of Southgate I have to give him credit for finding ways to win in KO games. To be honest I don’t care if England play well or badly as long as they score more than the other lot. That was our attitude in 66 and it’s still mine today.

He has been blessed with a talented squad, not just one or two individuals and his biggest achievement for me is making them forget their clubs and play for Club England.

But he has been given the easiest ride I’ve ever known by the media even including Ramsey who had to take heavy flack for the “wingless wonders” selection and picking Hurst over Greaves and his so called dismissive attitude to the media when he protected his players. Southgate has never had real dirt digging or scam setting or “turnip” heading if his side played badly.


I think they were well ready to go after him but it's hard when he keeps delivering. Been loads of grumbles though - defence was crap, Trippier at left back is madness, Sterling shouldn't be picked, can't control games in midfield, terrible negative team against Germany....  
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Denmark put us under a bit of pressure for the first 2 minutes of the second half of extra time and then barely touched the ball. again.


Yes, we have a fit squad of players with similar abilities who are by and large interchangeable. So.Southgate is in the enviable position last night of being able to use his subs to freshen up the side as needed whereas Denmark I felt had a decent side but a lesser bench to call on so they tailed off in the last ten minutes, mentally and physically.



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Fair play to Southgate, I didn’t think for one minute he’d be able to take us to that level. What he’s shown is the ability to bring a squad together, a thing that (rather disgracefully and the fact past players admit this live on TV is embarrassing) we’ve never had before.

That alone has been worth it’s weight in gold, he’s learnt from lessons in the past and he’s taught a lot of us a few lessons as well.

Hats off to him
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The very best way to defend a 1 goal lead is to make it a 2 goal lead. We had a few chances to break against the ten men of Denmark in the second half of extra time but didn't try. I'm not saying we should have gone gung ho, but we had 3 or 4 players against fewer defenders on a couple of occasions and it was worth trying to make the game absolutely safe.

A good spell of possession near the end to really take the sting out of the game, but passing up good chances to score a second at pretty much no risk will never sit well with me. That's true whether I'm watching England or GTFC. I hate it when the ball is taken into the corner and thankfully we only did that once that I can remember - much better to pass it around as we did last night.
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I think they were well ready to go after him but it's hard when he keeps delivering. Been loads of grumbles though - defence was crap, Trippier at left back is madness, Sterling shouldn't be picked, can't control games in midfield, terrible negative team against Germany....  


Right enough and it is hard because a lot of the criticism is on social media. I think the press has been kinder than the switch hitters on Twitter.



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My biggest problem is the lad from Leeds second half of extra time ball in the Denmark half keep the ball winning by one goal not him he would insist on passing the ball back not impressed with him goalkeeper poor kicking  awful my mom Kyle Walker very impressed  very pleased with the result now looking forward to Sunday my two best results I have seen at Wembley was 1966 England and 2016 Town
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I found a blog I'd written five years ago lamenting the idea that Southgate could be our next manager — a manager whose only achievement in the domestic game was getting Middlesbrough relegated from the Premier League.

But some managers just work better in the international scene.

Southgate has overseen the production line of English talent. It's no fluke that he had a pretty awesome bench to call upon, and there be players like Lingard, who excelled in the PL last season, who didn't even make the squad.

I was as sceptical as the next person about Southgate's appointment. Psychologically he's got England over a number of hurdles, which is a tremendous feat in itself. He's calm, thoughtful, eloquent, diligent and a model professional in every way.

He's exactly what England needed after that shambles against Iceland.

The way I feel about this England squad, in this era, is very different to the way I viewed previous Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Beckham and Rooney eras. Back then I was like, 'come on, you overpaid prima donnas, why aren't you playing like you do for your club?!'

These current players are probably being paid more, but you can detect a real sense of fearlessness among them. They look like they want to win for the country, not for their careers.

Naturally I'm desperate for us to win the final as that will be incredible, but part of football and sport itself is lifting the mood of the nation and bringing people together. We've all been physically apart for so long, so this is just the tonic we needed.

Win or lose, there are many heroes in that England side. Positive vibes only, going into Sunday.


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My biggest problem is the lad from Leeds second half of extra time ball in the Denmark half keep the ball winning by one goal not him he would insist on passing the ball back not impressed with him goalkeeper poor kicking  awful my mom Kyle Walker very impressed  very pleased with the result now looking forward to Sunday my two best results I have seen at Wembley was 1966 England and 2016 Town


Talking of Wembley 1966, I was 20 years old and ended up watching the final on TV in my house with 2 complete German strangers!  They were touring UK on a motorbike, and stopped at the café where my Mother worked and asked if they knew anywhere where they could watch the final, so my Mother rang me and told me I would be entertaining two guests to watch the World Cup Final!

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July 8, 2021, 1:26pm
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I can't believe so many moaning. We WON, ENGLAND are in a FINAL for the first time in 55 years. To be in an international football competition final you have to play well all the time, the manager has to get the tactics right all the time, the backroom staff have to prepare the players physically and mentally to be the best for each game.

This is exactly what happened in this competition, the whole England setup got it right all the time. Yes, we are all entitled to an opinion, that's what this site is about. BUT only one man is the manager, Southgate, and given he managed a team into the FINAL he got everything right; and our opinions are irrelevant because he proved he was right.

Nobody on here could do any better so stop moaning and give praise where it's due. Get behind the entire England team and set up. We're going to win the cup, footballs coming home and the Italians are going home with nothing.

Come on England.


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drunk up, italy were playing, wanted to fit in


Lovely shirt, tbf


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