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Probably the biggest impact they could have on the wider community is to fund, or find funds for a new community stadium if they can.
And let's hope they design it so we can have live music concerts there as an aside. Even better, build a theatre in it just so we can urinate on Tom Shutes' high faluting ideas for him to line his own pocket again.
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Just read Jasons' article, it brought a tear to my eye. A guy from the backstreets of GY hobnobbing with the greats of New York. He now wants to put something back along with Andrew.
A brilliant story for the youth of the town, you can do it, it can be done, I am living proof that a backstreet kid with little basic education, having to 'improvise to help feed my family' when a kid can become a millionaire.
He's come back to help the club, the community, and the Town.
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Nope, I agree with the sentiment of what he's saying, that the club should be tightly integrated with the community and I like that they aspire to have more community interaction. I don't like the article though, it reminds me of the questions podcast when he seemed to want to show how intelligent he is by talking about ideologies and that article starts off doing the same about meritocracy and then goes on to portray Grimsby as the bottom hole of the country. There's enough negative press about the place and it doesn't need adding to by a champion for the local area. N.E. Lincs has some wonderful qualities and it'd be nice to hear about those to help raise the profile of the area rather than scare people off with tales of kids being forced into drug gangs and poverty.
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Nope, I agree with the sentiment of what he's saying, that the club should be tightly integrated with the community and I like that they aspire to have more community interaction. I don't like the article though, it reminds me of the questions podcast when he seemed to want to show how intelligent he is by talking about ideologies and that article starts off doing the same about meritocracy and then goes on to portray Grimsby as the bottom hole of the country. There's enough negative press about the place and it doesn't need adding to by a champion for the local area. N.E. Lincs has some wonderful qualities and it'd be nice to hear about those to help raise the profile of the area rather than scare people off with tales of kids being forced into drug gangs and poverty.
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We can now go live to our terrible take correspondent who is on the scene now. Lew..
I would have preferred a more positive article about Grimsby the place, and more about the proud history of GTFC.
I admire what the new owners are doing for the club, but poverty and decline are relative, and many towns and communities suffer from the ebbs and flows of economic activity, government decisions of all colours and the overreliance of the southeast on the UK economy.
Taking everything into account North East Lincolnshire is a great place to live; obviously, we would all like it even better, but we can improve everything in time but I wish National articles like this would focus more on the positive aspects, instead of going over the decline of the fishing industry again and our shortcomings which are not exclusive to Grimsby.
One man ruined GTFC, but we are seemingly in safe hands with the new owners, but personally I think they are overestimating the impact it will have on the wider community apart from the feel-good factor of having a more successful club.
Probably the biggest impact they could have on the wider community is to fund, or find funds for a new community stadium if they can.
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We can now go live to our terrible take correspondent who is on the scene now. Lew..
Very droll. I am not sure why it is such a shock for someone Grimsby born and bred to be proud of my home town. Perhaps born into such poverty I see things in a more rose tinted way when I look at Grimsby today and the progress it has made. My wife comes from York, and her relatives seem to have a greater appreciation of the Grimsby area than some of our own. They are very complimentary of the area when they visit and cannot understand the negative press and recognise our heritage and all that goes with it. Admittedly I don't take them shopping down Freeman Street, or show them round the less salubrious areas, but then again they understand that every town has them. I may be in a minority on here (not new, including my many anti-Fenty rants over the years when it wasn't fashionable) but it is great to have a view that you believe in. If you don't agree, it is no skin off my nose as they say.
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N.E. Lincs is consistently in the top 10 most deprived areas in the entire country and the East Marsh was once in the top 3 most deprived wards, yet Lew and PP seem to think that shouldn't be mentioned and there are much worse places, when in reality, there aren't.
What's wrong you two? Not enough right wing rhetoric?
Thought it was a great article myself and flags up the inequality in modern society. Hope they can bring a bit of joy and pride back to the football club and in the community.
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N.E. Lincs is consistently in the top 10 most deprived areas in the entire country and the East Marsh was once in the top 3 most deprived wards, yet Lew and PP seem to think that shouldn't be mentioned and there are much worse places, when in reality, there aren't.
What's wrong you two? Not enough right wing rhetoric?
Thought it was a great article myself and flags up the inequality in modern society. Hope they can bring a bit of joy and pride back to the football club and in the community.
That is not correct Ginny. Most lists I have seen of the most deprived areas of the country, Grimsby doesn't even make the list. I am looking now at a list compiled by the Guardian, and the list of most deprived wards are as follows:- Liverpool, Manchester,Middlesborough,Knowsley,Hull, Hackney,Tower Hamlets, Birmingham,Blackpool,Hartlepool,Blackburn with Darwin, Burnley, Salford, Newsham, Stoke on Trent, Bradford, Sandwell, Pendle, Harringay, Hastings. According to the Guardian most deprived areas are in cities. (95%) In their full list, NE Lincs is rated 85th most deprived area. I stand by my comment that there are a lot worse places to live than Grimsby.
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That is not correct Ginny.
Most lists I have seen of the most deprived areas of the country, Grimsby doesn't even make the list.
I am looking now at a list compiled by the Guardian, and the list of most deprived wards are as follows:-
Liverpool, Manchester,Middlesborough,Knowsley,Hull, Hackney,Tower Hamlets, Birmingham,Blackpool,Hartlepool,Blackburn with Darwin, Burnley, Salford, Newsham, Stoke on Trent, Bradford, Sandwell, Pendle, Harringay, Hastings.
According to the Guardian most deprived areas are in cities. (95%)
In their full list, NE Lincs is rated 85th most deprived area.
I stand by my comment that there are a lot worse places to live than Grimsby.
The fact that there are so many locations that are deprived is illustrative of some of the stuff Jason references in his piece. I’ve recently been working in Hackney, Harringhay, Dalston and Bethel Green all of which are equally as challenged if not more, depending how you measure things. In my Region I also covered the City, Zone 1 and the West End. The socioeconomic gulf is quite disturbing, what has happened to Grimsby in the last 30/40 years is a UK wide problem that in my view started at the end of the 70s when “you know who” got her claws into the Country.
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Just read Jasons' article, it brought a tear to my eye. A guy from the backstreets of GY hobnobbing with the greats of New York. He now wants to put something back along with Andrew.
A brilliant story for the youth of the town, you can do it, it can be done, I am living proof that a backstreet kid with little basic education, having to 'improvise to help feed my family' when a kid can become a millionaire.
He's come back to help the club, the community, and the Town.
He isn’t that unusual. I could name at least one other local from a similar background who has made much more money from Wall Street than Mr Stockwood in the US. It’s just that he bought a football club instead of being a Carphone bloke who sank money into local education. I admire him though for wanting the best for his hometown and we will all benefit in morale from a successful club. Declining with urban poverty, drug abuse etc. is a whole different ball game. As many towns have found you can pour money into a bottomless pit and still find drugs hurtling along the M!80 into Grimsby and people using foodbanks. But there are a lot of kids who do succeed and there would be more if we could convince them of the value of qualifications and perseverance. We forget as well that the majority of NEL is not poor, has good schools and kids getting great results.There are also new investments already underway in theory, not least by Jason’s erstwhile partner. Let’s not worry about such things, just enjoy what’s happening to the club, swing along with the transformations and give all our support to this promotion push.
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