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Yoda
March 18, 2021, 8:06am
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We all love LJL we know he’s not the most prolific goal scorer let’s face it if he was he wouldn’t be playing for us.
But he gives 100% every game and since his return we have looked a bit more potent up front.

I think we need a front three Hanson centre Ljl and a n other along side them.

At least where not getting smashed every week now we have turned the corner.

Can Hurst do it. !! let’s pray.
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Quoted from Yoda
We all love LJL we know he’s not the most prolific goal scorer let’s face it if he was he wouldn’t be playing for us.
But he gives 100% every game and since his return we have looked a bit more potent up front.

I think we need a front three Hanson centre Ljl and a n other along side them.

At least where not getting smashed every week now we have turned the corner.

Can Hurst do it. !! let’s pray.


Ultimately, we missed the turning, and had to go all the way round, and have arrived too late.

With Regards the shop, i am a huge fan of him, as a person and a player.

He's not a legend, this is the most overused phrase in football these days.
But he's a good, league 2 player.
If he could finish like Connell use to, he would be playing top of league 1, simple as that.
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We all love LJL we know he’s not the most prolific goal scorer let’s face it if he was he wouldn’t be playing for us.
But he gives 100% every game and since his return we have looked a bit more potent up front.

I think we need a front three Hanson centre Ljl and a n other along side them.

At least where not getting smashed every week now we have turned the corner.

Can Hurst do it. !! let’s pray.


We don't all love LJL
I didn't think much of him first time around and he's not the answer to our goal scoring problems the second time around as shown over the last two games.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Quoted from TAGG


We don't all love LJL
I didn't think much of him first time around and he's not the answer to our goal scoring problems the second time around as shown over the last two games.


Well at least LJL is getting chances in a position to miss.
Wasn’t happening before Xmas
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Gives his all you can't fault that, his finishing on the other hand  


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Unfortunately there isn’t a column for that on the league table 😂


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Quoted from Yoda
We all love LJL we know he’s not the most prolific goal scorer let’s face it if he was he wouldn’t be playing for us.
But he gives 100% every game and since his return we have looked a bit more potent up front.

I think we need a front three Hanson centre Ljl and a n other along side them.

At least where not getting smashed every week now we have turned the corner.

Can Hurst do it. !! let’s pray.




We would all love LJL if he would convert at yeast some of his chances into match winning goals. If he and Hanson don’t  then we are down, simple as that.



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We would all love LJL if he would convert at yeast some of his chances into match winning goals. If he and Hanson don’t  then we are down, simple as that.



I hope he can RISE to the challenge


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I hope he can RISE to the challenge


Nice one. Well, he is The Shop.



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We would all love LJL if he would convert at yeast some of his chances into match winning goals. If he and Hanson don’t  then we are down, simple as that.



He'd make a lot more bread if he did. It's a pitta that he can't get more goals. Rye can't he finish? I'm sure that when he gets his next chance he'll baguette. He's a late bloomer.


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Let’s face it we aren’t creating any goal scoring opportunities in quantity for LJL or any other of the forwards

If you give LJL more than one solitary chance in a game, then he will score you some goals

In the last two games he has been given one chance per game and neither were easy

The one against Colchester that went over the bar, was already rising off the GK and was slightly behind him. He did his best to adjust and it skimmed off his knee or thigh I think, and continued rising.

The chance last night was a first time shot that came to him quickly and he struck it and hit the target. Sadly needed to be either side of the keeper and not down the middle, but that was his only chance provided to him in the game. Many would have spooned that high wide and not very handsome.

The crux of the matter is that we now need to start creating goal scoring chances. We now look solid and hard to play against. We now defend compactly and frustrate teams. But we’ve now got to be more effective in that turnover of possession on the counter, in order to create goal scoring chances for LJL or any other striker.

We looked more of a threat in the second half last night when Jackson came on. Lammy is looking decent too. Hanson always disappoints me. The size of him, he should be horrible to play against up there like Matt Read was, but he just doesn’t seem to do it enough for me.

Create chances and we will score some goals
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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Let’s face it we aren’t creating any goal scoring opportunities in quantity for LJL or any other of the forwards

If you give LJL more than one solitary chance in a game, then he will score you some goals

In the last two games he has been given one chance per game and neither were easy

The one against Colchester that went over the bar, was already rising off the GK and was slightly behind him. He did his best to adjust and it skimmed off his knee or thigh I think, and continued rising.

The chance last night was a first time shot that came to him quickly and he struck it and hit the target. Sadly needed to be either side of the keeper and not down the middle, but that was his only chance provided to him in the game. Many would have spooned that high wide and not very handsome.

The crux of the matter is that we now need to start creating goal scoring chances. We now look solid and hard to play against. We now defend compactly and frustrate teams. But we’ve now got to be more effective in that turnover of possession on the counter, in order to create goal scoring chances for LJL or any other striker.

We looked more of a threat in the second half last night when Jackson came on. Lammy is looking decent too. Hanson always disappoints me. The size of him, he should be horrible to play against up there like Matt Read was, but he just doesn’t seem to do it enough for me.

Create chances and we will score some goals


I am sure these players will be a handful in non-league. Just a bit to late though.



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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Let’s face it we aren’t creating any goal scoring opportunities in quantity for LJL or any other of the forwards

If you give LJL more than one solitary chance in a game, then he will score you some goals

In the last two games he has been given one chance per game and neither were easy

The one against Colchester that went over the bar, was already rising off the GK and was slightly behind him. He did his best to adjust and it skimmed off his knee or thigh I think, and continued rising.

The chance last night was a first time shot that came to him quickly and he struck it and hit the target. Sadly needed to be either side of the keeper and not down the middle, but that was his only chance provided to him in the game. Many would have spooned that high wide and not very handsome.

The crux of the matter is that we now need to start creating goal scoring chances. We now look solid and hard to play against. We now defend compactly and frustrate teams. But we’ve now got to be more effective in that turnover of possession on the counter, in order to create goal scoring chances for LJL or any other striker.

We looked more of a threat in the second half last night when Jackson came on. Lammy is looking decent too. Hanson always disappoints me. The size of him, he should be horrible to play against up there like Matt Read was, but he just doesn’t seem to do it enough for me.

Create chances and we will score some goals


Listen to some prem manager and they will say something like "We will get an opportunity and you have to take it".  LJL has had 2 chances and missed them both.

Excuses, excuses are all I've in weeks. The fact is Hurst's team is not good enough, if they were we wouldn't be bottom of the league.





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I am sure these players will be a handful in non-league. Just a bit to late though.



If they can't keep us in the EFL I can't see them getting us promoted from the NL.


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I watched last night .... good lord, how bad was that 1st half? I honestly can't recall a Grimsby side ever hoof it so aimlessly, and I'm not even sure LJL or Hanson had a touch did they?

Much improved in the 2nd half, I thought Clifton looked decent to be fair and the defence was solid, but I don't see where the goals are going to come from to save you, and turn draws into valuable wins?





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Quoted from DB


Listen to some prem manager and they will say something like "We will get an opportunity and you have to take it".  LJL has had 2 chances and missed them both.

Excuses, excuses are all I've in weeks. The fact is Hurst's team is not good enough, if they were we wouldn't be bottom of the league.



Is DB really comparing LJL to the top strikers that Premier League managers have at their disposal.

I might have print that remark out and frame it for my office wall, or give it the gold button award at the very least.

Priceless
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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
In the last two games he has been given one chance per game and neither were easy

The one against Colchester that went over the bar, was already rising off the GK and was slightly behind him. He did his best to adjust and it skimmed off his knee or thigh I think, and continued rising.

The chance last night was a first time shot that came to him quickly and he struck it and hit the target. Sadly needed to be either side of the keeper and not down the middle, but that was his only chance provided to him in the game. Many would have spooned that high wide and not very handsome.


Sorry but that chance against Colchester wasn't a difficult chance. I can be forgiving of strikers for missing if it's an awkward chance or something. But it wasn't so far behind him to cause a problem, and want exactly bounced towards him at pace. He had time to adjust and he missed.

Strikers are there to adjust quickly to balls in the box to put them in the net. Not every shot at goal they have will be a perfectly set up lay off or a penalty. Any half decent goalscorer scores that with ease. It was 2 yards out in the middle of an open goal.

Even the one last night. It didnt come at him quickly. It came at him at a good pace, at the speed a normal pass would to stop it being intercepted. The problem is his composure in finishing situations is very poor, as is, generally, his finishing technique. I'm not going to praise him just because he didn't hit it "high wide and not very handsome."

Don't get me wrong, I'm no LJL hater or anything like that. I see what he brings to the team. But chances like these need to be taken, and would be by a competent League 2 striker. I don't expect a target man style striker to get 20 a season (Livvo etc never did) but being able to finish chances like that should be expected.


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Sorry but that chance against Colchester wasn't a difficult chance. I can be forgiving of strikers for missing if it's an awkward chance or something. But it wasn't so far behind him to cause a problem, and want exactly bounced towards him at pace. He had time to adjust and he missed.

Strikers are there to adjust quickly to balls in the box to put them in the net. Not every shot at goal they have will be a perfectly set up lay off or a penalty. Any half decent goalscorer scores that with ease. It was 2 yards out in the middle of an open goal.

Even the one last night. It didnt come at him quickly. It came at him at a good pace, at the speed a normal pass would to stop it being intercepted. The problem is his composure in finishing situations is very poor, as is, generally, his finishing technique. I'm not going to praise him just because he didn't hit it "high wide and not very handsome."

Don't get me wrong, I'm no LJL hater or anything like that. I see what he brings to the team. But chances like these need to be taken, and would be by a competent League 2 striker. I don't expect a target man style striker to get 20 a season (Livvo etc never did) but being able to finish chances like that should be expected.



We will have to agree to disagree on that one then. But I’m wholly respectful of your opinion, as that is what it’s all about isn’t it

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Just checked the meaning of the word legend;

A legend is someone who leaves behind an unforgettable impression on others. They touch lives, they're remembered, they're cherished. There are all sorts of legends in this world – famous or not. Becoming one means finding your particular role, your calling, following it, and touching others around you.

If you refer to someone as a legend, you mean that they are very famous and admired by a lot of people.

None of the above applies to Mr Lewis.

Matt Tees on the other had.................................LEGEND !
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For what it's worth, I'll add my two-pennath worth.
The players are playing under enormous pressure which is affecting their performances. They don't want to be the one that makes a mistake that takes us nearer the dreaded drop, so it makes them cautious and unwilling to take a risk, especially up front. If we were to get a two goal lead then they would be more relaxed and then chances would be more likely to be created and taken. Confidence is key. We desperately need to get a run together and perhaps we can see the real potential of this team.
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Well at least LJL is getting chances in a position to miss.
Wasn’t happening before Xmas


That's done us a lot of good then, fuckin shootings up the table.

Can't fault the blokes effort, but in front of goal Naa


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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He'd make a lot more bread if he did. It's a pitta that he can't get more goals. Rye can't he finish? I'm sure that when he gets his next chance he'll baguette. He's a late bloomer.

I've never seen so many bad buns in one post.
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Gives his all you can't fault that, his finishing on the other hand  


We knew what we were getting into when he was coming back. What he brings is never loads of goals it's more just putting himself about, if we had a natural goal scorer that'd be great but we work with what we can get right now.
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Quoted from GYinScuntland

I've never seen so many bad buns in one post.


Thank you. I have more if you want to see them?.......

And I saw what you did there! It was pittaful.


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Thank you. I have more if you want to see them?.......

And I saw what you did there! It was pittaful.


You made a wholemeal of that. Good job you didn't have a cob!


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Quoted from Yoda
We all love LJL we know he’s not the most prolific goal scorer let’s face it if he was he wouldn’t be playing for us.
But he gives 100% every game and since his return we have looked a bit more potent up front.

I think we need a front three Hanson centre Ljl and a n other along side them.

At least where not getting smashed every week now we have turned the corner.

Can Hurst do it. !! let’s pray.


Are you being serious ??
We have hardly made goalkeepers work at all in the last month or so.

LJL was getting plenty of pelters in his previous spell....in fact right up until he did the Xmas add spoof with Mr Griffith i would say he had more detractors than supporters....that spoof rocketed his ratings and he was then suddenly a bit of a cult figure again.

His recent misses in the last two games have taken me right back to his first spell where he regularly fluffed chances.

More potent.....i think not.


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Quoted from DB


You made a wholemeal of that. Good job you didn't have a cob!


I have a batch of them.


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I have a batch of them.


Mothers Pride or have they gone stale!


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Suggesting LJL is a GTFC legend is doing a disservice to those Town players who were.

Probably only a legend due to him being a marmite player.
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Kev Moore Bob cumming joe waters club legends
The shop isn’t a club legend he’s a poor striker who tbf tries hard
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I wouldn't call him a poor striker or a legend, he certainly has a lot of positive attributes to his game, he works defenders hard and that work rate enables us to defend right from the front. Coincidence that we have become more resilient since he came into the side, I think not.

On the downside his conposure in front on goal lets him down, but in all fairness he is getting very few chances, as has all the team overall, all season,which makes those misses even more vital.

On balance I'd rather have him in the team.
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All the strikers / players have missed good chances this season when we needed better  But the shop misses far to often and it has cost us dear this last 2 games  his miss rate is alarming for a striker . He has some very good parts to his game but putting the ball in the net is not one of them and we knew that when he came back and so did hurst
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This post sums up this club tbh. No wonder we have been shiit for 20 years. Exactly what we deserve
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mimma
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Good strikers are like rocking horse shite, very hard to come by. When one comes along that is half decent, they can double or treble their wages and can move to clubs that have the money, ie Podge. If Town find a 20+ striker he'll be gone by the next season, that's the harsh reality of where we are. Holloway recognised this and tried to find up and coming strikers from the lower leagues rather than try to get one from the league, which would have used up a lot of our budget and might not have worked.
Stockport have just bought Paddy Madden for a reported £250,000. Not bad for a player in his 30's. That's what we're up against.
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It goes against the grain but I knead to point out that he’s not exactly on a roll
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Not exactly on the breadline though is he?
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No but will he be toast?


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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TonySmith
March 19, 2021, 2:09pm

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Good strikers reckon to score a goal from every 3 or 4 decent chances they get. since Lenny only gets about one chance in each match he's just about doing that. He looks our best threat to me ( not that that's saying a great deal this season ) , but we need to create more chances for him and Hanson. They are, as the saying goes, feeding off scraps. And that was a really good headed goal at Carlisle which deserved to bring home three points.
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March 19, 2021, 5:29pm
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Quoted from mimma
Good strikers are like rocking horse shite, very hard to come by. When one comes along that is half decent, they can double or treble their wages and can move to clubs that have the money, ie Podge. If Town find a 20+ striker he'll be gone by the next season, that's the harsh reality of where we are. Holloway recognised this and tried to find up and coming strikers from the lower leagues rather than try to get one from the league, which would have used up a lot of our budget and might not have worked.
Stockport have just bought Paddy Madden for a reported £250,000. Not bad for a player in his 30's. That's what we're up against.


You don't need a 20 goal a season striker to at least stay in the League.

Of the bottom 9 teams only 2 have a scorer in double figures.

In fact only one player in League 2 (P Mullen Cambridge) has scored more than 20 goals so far.

It's not just strikers that score goals the midfield have been woeful in their goals contribution and it is very sad that our leading scorer is Pollock.

Pollock & Tom Clifford also with 3 goals for Southend are the lowest leading team scorers in League 2.  

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March 19, 2021, 5:31pm
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Quoted from TonySmith
Good strikers reckon to score a goal from every 3 or 4 decent chances they get. since Lenny only gets about one chance in each match he's just about doing that. He looks our best threat to me ( not that that's saying a great deal this season ) , but we need to create more chances for him and Hanson. They are, as the saying goes, feeding off scraps. And that was a really good headed goal at Carlisle which deserved to bring home three points.


Sadly we don't don't have a midfield good enough to create chances for our strikers, neither Holloway's or Hurst's midfields have been good enough.
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ginnywings
March 20, 2021, 3:05am

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I've seen far better strikers than LJL miss 'simple' chances. Even Premier League strikers put sitters over the bar or fluff one straight at the keeper.
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Swansea_Mariner
March 20, 2021, 7:44am
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Ginny this always used to be a bug bear of mine with Andy Cole, I mean people used to call him Andy Miss-Control ffs. The guy scored almost 300 career goals and was a 1 in 2 striker yet whenever I'd see United in the pub there'd always be someone saying how excrement he was.

Obviously a totally different bracket to Lenny, just a general observation while we're on the topic
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pontoonlew
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I've seen far better strikers than LJL miss 'simple' chances. Even Premier League strikers put sitters over the bar or fluff one straight at the keeper.


Aye but I’ve not seen many do it with such alarming regularity
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