Tonights Barrow Game

0-0 Barrow 2 on target so far to the Saddlers 0

Plenty of time for a Walsall win

0-0 HT

Barrow the more likely to score and win

What was all that injury time about ?

Around 10 minutes on FlashScore.

Watched the 1st half Walsall look poor.. Barrow slightly better had had two chances..

5 mins injury time was a clash of heads Barrow player was subbed

What channel is it on?  

😉

Quoted from Garth

Barrow the more likely to score and win

Walsall win, positive thinking

Walsall are on a really poor run of form.

A draw wouldn't be a disaster, a Walsall win would be a bonus.

Barrow on top......

Walsall 0-1 Barrow  FFS

Barrow take the lead ...

It is not meant to be

We need to drag others in. If we get winning and keep winning, all will be fine. Big if, but possible.

This was always gonna happen tonight. Teams are struggling, and struggling worse than the bottom 3.

We are copulated!

Somehow all of a sudden 7 points seems insurmountable...

Quoted from Humbercod

We are copulated!

F#cked son..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Somehow all of a sudden 7 points seems insurmountable...

8 if you look at the GD.

The job just got a lot harder  

Quoted from promotion plaice

8 if you look at the GD.

The job just got a lot harder  

We are knackered PP...time to admit, even for the most ardent of optimists (DB), we are well n truly NL next season.

That was probably their best chance for a win. Their next 4 games including us will be more difficult so it's not over. A win for us tomorrow will put them 4 points ahead and we beat them and it's all to play for.

UTM

We're taking 10 points from the next 5 games, no probs

Quoted from DB

That was probably their best chance for a win. Their next 4 games including us will be more difficult so it's not over. A win for us tomorrow will put them 4 points ahead and we beat them and it's all to play for.

UTM

I’m with you. We’ve got to play Walsall too, who are struggling. It’s a big ask, but this ain’t over.

Tomorrow is surely a MUST win

It’s Imperative

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

We are knackered PP...time to admit, even for the most ardent of optimists (DB), we are well n truly NL next season.

Not till the maths say so, a win tomorrow and it's a start of a revival. Let's face their is only one club that hasn't and is due a run of good results. We're Town Staying Up.

87th minute winner ...

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Tomorrow is surely a MUST win

It’s Imperative

With out a doubt, staying up.

nothing but a win v colchester  or its finished

Is the National League still at risk?

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we need to drag colchester into it

Quoted from Eastendmariner

nothing but a win v colchester  or its finished

It's never finished till the maths say so. Staying up.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Is the National League still at risk?

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Interesting PP. Dover are not playing, clubs forced into debt to continue, no relegation. No integrity. It makes a good defence for any club being forced to relegate to that league. Hope we don't end up in that position.

Quoted from DB

Not till the maths say so, a win tomorrow and it's a start of a revival. Let's face their is only one club that hasn't and is due a run of good results. We're Town Staying Up.

Time for a reality pill DB, I love your positive approach but we are screwed.

Watching Lamy tearing up the wing on Tuesday gave me lots of hope, we can do this! UTM!

See port vale are in poor form

But even when we play well we dont win. We’ve had it

Great the disappointment starts on a Friday now!

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Time for a reality pill DB, I love your positive approach but we are screwed.

Well I haven't swallowed a pill and my screwdriver is blunt and it wasn't me

Quoted from oochiad

Watching Lamy tearing up the wing on Tuesday gave me lots of hope, we can do this! UTM!

Of course we can, not a problem

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Great the disappointment starts on a Friday now!

Thankfully you didn't say which Friday. So we're staying up aren't we.

Quoted from DB

With out a doubt, staying up.

Which brand of red wine do you drink DB, I must give it a try.

Quoted from oochiad

Watching Lamy tearing up the wing on Tuesday gave me lots of hope, we can do this! UTM!

Of course we can. Being positive is brilliant.

Genuine question for those that have watched the game.....did Barrow create chances throughout the game ?

It's ok people saying we need to beat them, drag others in etc but we are creating 1 maybe 2 chances a game....you cant win many games like that and we are still then reliant on all the other teams virtually losing 2 or 3 weeks on the bounce while we dont.

That to me is the final nail in our coffin...gutted to say the least.

I think the reality of our task is really stating to hit home  it's a very poor result for us Barrow according to stats created a lot more 7 shots  I was just thinking a point isn't a bad result  considering how poor walsall were/are  we all know when they play us they will play out of their skins  

Quoted from promotion plaice

Which brand of red wine do you drink DB, I must give it a try.

Generally speaking anything between £8 and £10 depending what's on offer. Naked wines (yes it's a co.) pointed out that anything under £8 is crap(my words). The reason being say £6/bottle £2 wine tax, 20% vat, supermarket profit, wholesaler profit, vineyard profit, bottle cost and transportation leaves little for the price of the wine. So they say the more you pay the better the quality.

My only exception is 1Les Tuguets Madiran Tesco £7/£6. I originally bought this as I read people who drink this type of wine live longer! I have found it to be palatable and not acidic. Having said all this I am not a wine cognisor, but from a very early age brought up on my nans home made wines.  

Quoted from moosey_club

Genuine question for those that have watched the game.....did Barrow create chances throughout the game ?

It's ok people saying we need to beat them, drag others in etc but we are creating 1 maybe 2 chances a game....you cant win many games like that and we are still then reliant on all the other teams virtually losing 2 or 3 weeks on the bounce while we dont.

According to the BBC Barrow had 4 shots on goal, chances ?

You have to remain positive of staying up. Football is a strange game with strange results at times. You have to keep on believing.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

That to me is the final nail in our coffin...gutted to say the least.

I can see where you are coming from but their are games to play and as I said we haven't had a run. I posted a while ago that the Barrow game is vital so their is no need to be down that much. We will have to see after that game what happens.

Where are the goals gonna come from? Unfortunately neither of the strikers have it in them
Hoping for a one nil and a nervy last ten in every game

Quoted from Eastendmariner

I think the reality of our task is really stating to hit home  it's a very poor result for us Barrow according to stats created a lot more 7 shots  I was just thinking a point isn't a bad result  considering how poor walsall were/are  we all know when they play us they will play out of their skins  

Every time somebody plays us we say that. But by the time we play them they could be on a right downer. So stay positive.

Tonight is the final arrow
No More
See u at Kings Lynn Weymouth and Wealdstone
Next Season

Quoted from Eastendmariner

I think the reality of our task is really stating to hit home  it's a very poor result for us Barrow according to stats created a lot more 7 shots  I was just thinking a point isn't a bad result  considering how poor walsall were/are we all know when they play us they will play out of their skins  

And therein lies our problem, teams don't have to "play out of their skins" to get anything from us.

Quoted from nightrider

Where are the goals gonna come from? Unfortunately neither of the strikers have it in them

Who say Pollock is our top scorer and he's not playing. I saw enough against Carlisle to suggest a' few' chances may come our way. Not bothered who puts the ball in the net as long as somebody does. Staying up.

Quoted from sydney

Tonight is the final arrow
No More
See u at Kings Lynn Weymouth and Wealdstone
Next Season

Games to play, it's not over. Don't give in stay optimistic till the maths say different.

Quoted from arryarryarry

And therein lies our problem, teams don't have to "play out of their skins" to get anything from us.

I listened to LJL tonight and he didn't seem downcast. Carlisle was the best yet so we can be hopeful of more to come.

Quoted from DB

I listened to LJL tonight and he didn't seem downcast. Carlisle was the best yet so we can be hopeful of more to come.

One of our other main problems is we can't beat teams when they are shite.

Sorry DB, for as much as I get to say it, your optimism is misplaced now, the writing is on the wall. We are facing the NL like it or not, regardless of what we do the team above us are pulling away, it's as simple as that.

Quoted from arryarryarry

One of our other main problems is we can't beat teams when they are shite.

We have to start sometime, so let it be tomorrow.

Quoted from DB

Who say Pollock is our top scorer and he's not playing. I saw enough against Carlisle to suggest a' few' chances may come our way. Not bothered who puts the ball in the net as long as somebody does. Staying up.

And both strikers have scored in the last week.

Optimism is one thing. But you have to be realistic. We have taken 5 points from our last 11 games. Now we have to get 8 points more than Barrow from our remaining14 games.

It’s looking like we need 8 wins from 14 games to stand any chance. Even that may not be enough.

It’s not mathematically impossible. But let’s face it, highly unlikely. We have thrown too many points away since Holloway left ( we have taken just 6 points from 13 games. That’s 33 points lost.)

We are going down.

Barrow might no longer be the team to catch.

Quoted from Abdul19

And both strikers have scored in the last week.

So hopefully both will score tomorrow, while Colchester don't.

Only just checked Barrow score, fail to win tomorrow and we will be so cut off, could be interesting if our last game of season against Port Fale will keep one of us up, but cant see us getting 3 more wins than those above us.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Sorry DB, for as much as I get to say it, your optimism is misplaced now, the writing is on the wall. We are facing the NL like it or not, regardless of what we do the team above us are pulling away, it's as simple as that.

Let's see what 5.00 pm tomorrow brings!

Quoted from RonMariner

Optimism is one thing. But you have to be realistic. We have taken 5 points from our last 11 games. Now we have to get 8 points more than Barrow from our remaining14 games.

It’s looking like we need 8 wins from 14 games to stand any chance. Even that may not be enough.

It’s not mathematically impossible. But let’s face it, highly unlikely. We have thrown too many points away since Holloway left ( we have taken just 6 points from 13 games. That’s 33 points lost.)

We are going down.

I have been well and truly slated over several posts complaining about the inept performance of the man in the dugout, saying exactly what you have said. That said it's not over and we have to support the team. If you don't then surely the opposite is not being a supporter. I am not trying to be controversial, but realistic.

As a supporter I live in hope until the maths say otherwise.

Quoted from Marinerdeano

Barrow might no longer be the team to catch.

So who is?

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Only just checked Barrow score, fail to win tomorrow and we will be so cut off, could be interesting if our last game of season against Port Fale will keep one of us up, but cant see us getting 3 more wins than those above us.

Last Game of the season is Cambridge away.

Quoted from DB

Let's see what 5.00 pm tomorrow brings!

Nothing. We don't kick off until 5.30pm

The optimist in me says Colchester might be our best chance of swapping places with a team above to bottom 2 places.

If we beat them tomorrow and then win the game in hand we have over them, the gap would be down to 5 points.

BIG "if" I know. But can't bring myself to throw in the towel yet.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Nothing. We don't kick off until 5.30pm

You know what I meant.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Nothing. We don't kick off until 5.30pm

We could be even more fooked, possibly 7 points behind Southend

Quoted from Tommy

The optimist in me says Colchester might be our best chance of swapping places with a team above to bottom 2 places.

If we beat them tomorrow and then win the game in hand we have over them, the gap would be down to 5 points.

BIG "if" I know. But can't bring myself to throw in the towel yet.

Well said. We might be on the ropes but not down on the canvas. Keep the towel in your hand we're staying up.

I’m with DB, it’s not over until the maths says so and I saw enough on Tuesday to think we are improving. UTM! I just can’t throw the towel in yet, it’s much better for my mental health to be positive.....

Quoted from DB

So who is?

Well, there are three teams who we have games in hand over and have to play. Also DB I am with you on the positivity, even if the worst happens we will always have our club.

It's not yet mathematically certain that we are going down, but I think we have to face reality. It's not being disloyal to say that you expect us to go down. I have supported Town since 1971 through thick and thin (or thin and thin as Phil Ball once famously remarked!). I love the club. But I am a realist. Optimism is one thing, but to deny the inevitable in the face of all of the evidence to the contrary is delusional.

We might well win tomorrow. But it's too little too late. We have had at least six winnable games recently based on the poor form shown by our opponents going into the match. (Stevenage, Newport, Carlisle, Crawley, Orient, and FGR). They have yielded just 4 points. You could well add the Port Vale, Scunthorpe and Southend games to that list since the New year. We got just 1 point from those three games.

We are 8 points adrift of safety with 14 game left. We have earned 9 points from our last 14 games. Just don't see how we will suddenly start preforming like play off contenders..        

Quoted from oochiad

I’m with DB, it’s not over until the maths says so and I saw enough on Tuesday to think we are improving. UTM! I just can’t throw the towel in yet, it’s much better for my mental health to be positive.....

It's the hope that kills you though......

Quoted from RonMariner

It's not yet mathematically certain that we are going down, but I think we have to face reality. It's not being disloyal to say that you expect us to go down. I have supported Town since 1971 through thick and thin (or thin and thin as Phil Ball once famously remarked!). I love the club. But I am a realist. Optimism is one thing, but to deny the inevitable in the face of all of the evidence to the contrary is delusional.

We might well win tomorrow. But it's too little too late. We have had at least six winnable games recently based on the poor form shown by our opponents going into the match. (Stevenage, Newport, Carlisle, Crawley, Orient, and FGR). They have yielded just 4 points. You could well add the Port Vale, Scunthorpe and Southend games to that list since the New year. We got just 1 point from those three games.

We are 8 points adrift of safety with 14 game left. We have earned 9 points from our last 14 games. Just don't see how we will suddenly start preforming like play off contenders..        

I'm with you Ron but I started about 1958. Apart from the the maths I would ask every genuine supporter in good times and bad one question. When was the last time you went to BP and said, or heard, ' How many will we lose by'?

We go there to witness a victory. On here it is all so easy to be pessimistic behind a keyboard but face to face it's different. So that's where I'm coming from.

Has a feeling of inevitability about it doesn't it? Other teams seem capable of putting together a bit of a run and we just don't. Recently, we have had many winnable games against other struggling sides and we can't win them. We're just not good enough in both boxes and we also seem to be on the wrong end of every decision at the moment.

!4 games to go and we could still get out of it, but it's looking increasingly unlikely with every round of games.

Not a hope in hells chance we will stay up  . that went up the chimnea back in august

Quoted from DB

Well said. We might be on the ropes but not down on the canvas. Keep the towel in your hand we're staying up.

Reminds me of the Rocky films when I read that 🥊 👍

The last time I watched a game at Walsall was the start of the season when we had a team than was hardly fit enough to stand up after 70 minutes. We were told at the time that it was down to Covid but we now now it was penny pinching by the board and rubbish management by Eric Bristow. The damage had already been done by that point which is worth remembering when apportioning blame for our plight.

Let’s just face it . A fresh start , top to bottom with real investment behind us and a new ground in the pipeline is probably for the best. If we don’t win today it’s virtually over and based on the second half of the season we deserve it tbh . We’ve been pathetic .

Hurst out .

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Let’s just face it . A fresh start , top to bottom with real investment behind us and a new ground in the pipeline is probably for the best. If we don’t win today it’s virtually over and based on the second half of the season we deserve it tbh . We’ve been pathetic .

Tend to agree. Sometimes as in life a clean slate is required to start anew.

Barrow are now a form team. Forget about them. Port Vale, Colchester and perhaps Walsall are in a tail spin.

Obviously if we lose today then I think that IS it. But win and there’s a chance.

The maths, we are due a win, they are on a bad run, we have games in hand.......Jesus.

We are the worst team in the League, we have consistently throughout the season, with either squad, failed to create chances, failed to score more than 1,failed to keep a clean sheet, hardly won a fking game.

We cant even manage to draw that many games.

Ohh and now we have a long injury list so some of the dross we have pushed to the back may well now be heading back into the first team.

The believers/hopers out there should get together and have a whip round to buy the film rights as if the miracle happens you will have a blockbuster on your hands.

Firstly we need to win today and then hope Stevenage beat Southend, if it’s the other way around we have an even bigger problem.

Then each game try and finish with a better result than Barrow (and Southend TBH) then ensure we beat Barrow.

Add to that stay injury free and no suspensions.

Personally I think we’ll fall short, I hope not but I just can’t see us improving to deliver the results we need or luck going our way.

It’s often said with 6 games to go sides who have the threat of relegation have “6 cup finals to play” I think the next 6 are our cup finals, if we don’t do well in these fixtures we’ve had it I think.

our coffin is so full of nails there can't be much space for any more!

You get the feeling it's almost inevitable that Southend will pull something out of the bag at Orient and we will be on the wrong end of some shiite decision or bit of luck this evening

Quoted from forza ivano

our coffin is so full of nails there can't be much space for any more!

You get the feeling it's almost inevitable that Southend will pull something out of the bag at Orient and we will be on the wrong end of some shiite decision or bit of luck this evening

That will be one hell of an achievement seeing as they are at home to Stevenage

Quoted from denni266

Not a hope in hells chance we will stay up  . that went up the chimnea back in august

So you wasn't optimistic at the start of the season when IH was everybody's favourite, before we found out what he really was.

I personally think we’ll go down, we’ve got too much to do, I’ve sort of accepted it (I’m not happy with it) I’m quite angry especially with us being in this situation before, we just haven’t learnt, it’s so frustrating.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

I personally think we’ll go down, we’ve got too much to do, I’ve sort of accepted it (I’m not happy with it) I’m quite angry especially with us being in this situation before, we Fenty and the board just haven’t learnt, it’s so frustrating.

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Quoted from RonMariner

It's not yet mathematically certain that we are going down, but I think we have to face reality. It's not being disloyal to say that you expect us to go down. I have supported Town since 1971 through thick and thin (or thin and thin as Phil Ball once famously remarked!). I love the club. But I am a realist. Optimism is one thing, but to deny the inevitable in the face of all of the evidence to the contrary is delusional.

We might well win tomorrow. But it's too little too late. We have had at least six winnable games recently based on the poor form shown by our opponents going into the match. (Stevenage, Newport, Carlisle, Crawley, Orient, and FGR). They have yielded just 4 points. You could well add the Port Vale, Scunthorpe and Southend games to that list since the New year. We got just 1 point from those three games.

We are 8 points adrift of safety with 14 game left. We have earned 9 points from our last 14 games. Just don't see how we will suddenly start preforming like play off contenders..        

This is the killer of hope isn’t it. Unless we suddenly click and hit  the form of a promotion contender we’re fooked  

   Gloria Gaynor

I never can say goodbye 😀

Quoted from cmackenzie4

I personally think we’ll go down, we’ve got too much to do, I’ve sort of accepted it (I’m not happy with it) I’m quite angry especially with us being in this situation before, we just haven’t learnt, it’s so frustrating.

That is exactly right. We have been in his position before (twice if you include the season we got a reprieve thanks to Luton's 30 point deduction) and yet the idiots running the club just allowed it happen once again. I think the damage was done in the summer with poor recruitment suggestive of penny pinching, and lack of pre-season which was inexcusably amateurish.

We might have been able to rescue the situation with a large injection of quality in January, but it is clear that opportunity too was lost.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.