We are down

We deserve to go down we are crap.

Certainly looks nailed on. Gap starting to grow between where  we are, and a position of relative safety,  

Looks 2 from 3 for me, us Barrow, and Southend.  

We deserve it.

Us and Southend stand out as the two worst teams, both with by far the worst goal differences. It's genuinely impossible to see where the next win is coming from.

The only hope for us now is in the vote on monday, lets pray that the National league is cancelled, thats all that will save us now

When Hurst took over I put £1.50 on us being promoted at incredible odds... I've been had. Absolute dire football and the only saving grace is we aren't there in person to witness the collapse. Other teams have gone from strength to strength after their promotions and we froze in time.

Have to agree.

The only way I can see us staying up is if the NL packs up

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

Sad to see what has become of us.

Well done Fenty. Hope you are proud of what your ownership has done to this club.

4 points off safety, the team above us have 2 games in hand and taken 1 point from 3 of our closest rivals. We deserve to be relegated. I hope Holloway is satisfied with himself.

Quoted from Humbercod

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

In football there is no such thing.

Needs to show some improvement otherwise he will be gone by summer and we will have to bring in someone else to get us out of the conference.

Quoted from Humbercod

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

dont think he has, there will be calls for change once the inevitable is realised.

Yep it’s over now

Quoted from Mariner_09

4 points off safety, the team above us have 2 games in hand and taken 1 point from 3 of our closest rivals. We deserve to be relegated. I hope Holloway is satisfied with himself.

It is another bizarre saga to add the annals of GTFC. Proven manager at the highest level of English football, to then completely annihilate a League 2 club. It all seems dodgy and I doubt we'll ever know what the hell the plan was behind Holloway and co.

Quoted from Yoda

We deserve to go down we are crap.

For once I agree with you..

We're not down yet. Every team down there has had a run as bad as us at some point. Stevenage and Barrow have 5 wins, same as us. Difference being that they have both got three of those wins in the last 6 games, so it is possible to put together a bit of a run and i think we still can once we get a bit more used to the new players and manager.

Stevenage are actually in really good form and have only lost 2 of their last 11 games. People are looking at their league position and not really at their form. Teams currently higher up the division are having poor runs at the moment.

Yep, things look bleak right now, but there is still a lot of games to go.

King's Lynn will be our big "derby" next season  

I think we need a total clear out in the summer.

Cant really think of any of the players I would keep.

We need to start from scratch and sign players who know how to play the flipping game.

i'm increasingly of the opinion that the National League will continue alone.They will split the votes allow the North and South divisions to curtail their season and let the top league continue

i feel sick and this just makes it worse

Quoted from forza ivano

i'm increasingly of the opinion that the National League will continue alone.They will split the votes allow the North and South divisions to curtail their season and let the top league continue

i feel sick and this just makes it worse

Yeah that’s the way I see it, obviously odd to have promotion but no relegation but let’s be honest that’s what we’re hoping will be the situation in L2 so can’t complain. Not sure I can stand going back down but it’s what we deserve.

At least we know how to get to the grounds this time...

Quoted from Humbercod

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

6 points out of the last 42 now , shows how poor we already were.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Yeah that’s the way I see it, obviously odd to have promotion but no relegation but let’s be honest that’s what we’re hoping will be the situation in L2 so can’t complain. Not sure I can stand going back down but it’s what we deserve.

The problem is that the people who should be held accountable all being well won't be here to try and get us back up again.

Quoted from moosey_club

6 points out of the last 42 now , shows how poor we already were.

We spent too long believing that an experienced manager was gonna drag us out of this excrement...an experienced manager not arsed about football. Holloway should’ve been gone before November. flipping charlatan cuntt.

Hurst hasn’t got a hope in hell with these...

Oh well, if we do go down we might have a decent season for a change !(better than this shite year after year)always the optimist eh ?

Coming next:-

Newport, Exeter, Tranmere, Crawly.

Can anyone honestly see many points from that lot?

We are due a fluke result at some pointy. So maybe we will get 3 points. But by then the gap to safety might well be half a dozen points, more if Barrow win one of their games in hand, plus worse goal diff.

The chasm is about to open.

If were down time to reset, hurst got us out before he can do it again but next season I'm burning effigys of fenty and holloway on the roundabout coming into town from the m180 before every game

The fat lady's on her third encore.

The truth is she's been singing for ages.

Quoted from aldi_01

We spent too long believing that an experienced manager was gonna drag us out of this excrement...an experienced manager not arsed about football. Holloway should’ve been gone before November. flipping charlatan cuntt.

Hurst hasn’t got a hope in hell with these...

Certainly not arguing that Hurst inherited a mess but have to say when he was appointed I expected some upturn in our results especially given our opponents in these fixtures with the exception of Cambridge. Disappointed that Wright wasn’t brought on, or Scannell on the bench, as I think they provide a different option but hindsight has always been a wonderful thing. Why is it only town that doesn’t get a new Manager bounce?

Quoted from Humbercod

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

We were going down before he stepped in the door.
I'm no fan of PH(didn't want him back) but I know he is trying his hardest to turn this Holloway/Fenty mess around.
When Holloway came to the club all he had to do was get the players we had a bit more organised because we had some decent players where as Hurst had nothing and has had to bring in player and hope they will hit the ground running which has not happened.
Like I said im no fan of PH but I will stick with him and yes give him a 'free pass' he deserves it for taking on Fentys sloppy seconds.

Quoted from Humbercod

1 point from 15 is it now? It’s a good job Hurst has his free pass.

Never mind a free pass. He’s been given a hospital pass.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Certainly not arguing that Hurst inherited a mess but have to say when he was appointed I expected some upturn in our results especially given our opponents in these fixtures with the exception of Cambridge. Disappointed that Wright wasn’t brought on, or Scannell on the bench, as I think they provide a different option but hindsight has always been a wonderful thing. Why is it only town that doesn’t get a new Manager bounce?

We don't get the bounce because the issues at the club are deeper and more structural.

The takeover will change this, I'm hopeful for the medium / long term, but I fear there may not be enough time this season to turn the oil tanker created by false economies and incompetent leadership around....

If it wasn't for the hopes we will be competently led after the takeover, deckchairs on the Titanic would be a better analogy...

I see Hess scored today. Should have kept him and Whitehouse.

Quoted from RonMariner

I see Hess scored today. Should have kept him and Whitehouse.

No point in stating the obvious, we didn’t and there were far too many of us who didn’t care who we released because we stupidly believed that Holloway would bring in better quality replacements, I still cannot believe how easily I have been taken in by that poisonous dwarf.

Bringing in Glennon, Benson Clarke & Grandie ( whatever his name was) last season had us all rubbing our hands in expectation when we should have been washing them to rid ourselves of Holloway and our pathetic board.

My only hope now is that the consortium take a totally different approach. I hope they realise that you get nothing in football without investing in good players. It's not cheap, but the payoff is that you bring success on the pitch which brings with it financial rewards, generates interest in the club, and builds positive momentum.

I think that is at the heart of Fenty's disasterous stewardship. He apparently believes that 'football fortune' comes first, and leads to better things.

But the causality is exactly opposite.    

Unpopular opinion on a day like today but.. I think we'll stay up. Like the look of the new signings, one or two decent players to come back from injury, plenty of games to play. Southend, Stevenage, Barrow,  Harrogate and maybe Colchester are in this fight and I'd back us to be out of the bottom two by the end of the season. We'll look a lot better after given time to gel in a few weeks time and two wins on the bounce can change circumstances dramatically..

Can't see us winning two of the next four games to be honest. By then we might be more than six points adrift.

But I agree that we need to win a string of games to lift us out of danger. A point here and there is not good enough at this point.

Quoted from Bigdog

Unpopular opinion on a day like today but.. I think we'll stay up. Like the look of the new signings, one or two decent players to come back from injury, plenty of games to play. Southend, Stevenage, Barrow,  Harrogate and maybe Colchester are in this fight and I'd back us to be out of the bottom two by the end of the season. We'll look a lot better after given time to gel in a few weeks time and two wins on the bounce can change circumstances dramatically..

We have been in this before - haven't we just - and there is a natural tendency to cling on to as much hope as possible.

A few weeks ago it was half a season left. And the window. And we playing teams around us. And the National league might fold.

Here we are a few weeks on and the window is about to shut, we have got one point against the teams around us, and we have just lost to an unforgivable goal with the last kick. Suddenly the games left start to drift away.

I remember in 2010 holding out hope right till the death, refusing to accept it could happen, and no doubt I will do the same again;

However, I think this team is a lot worse than the one which went down last time. This team just seems to lack any cutting edge whatsoever and is terrible at the back. I suppose all relegated teams are the same, but I don't share your optimism that we can get out of this mess.

I hope you are right but with some difficult games coming up it will take a miracle.

It’s a depressing situation but it ain’t over til it’s over. I have some faith that Hursty can somehow work some magic and save our bottom. It might come down to the 11th hour but I believe he will manage it!

It is difficult to be accurate about forecasting the future, especially with football matches.  Otherwise, we would all have won a fortune on the Pools.

We won away at both Div 2 teams that were impressive in the FAC.  Who expected that?

We are dreadful now.  With new players and Hurst we can just get over the line by the end of the season.

The new players and Hurst have made us worse. Look at the results and the table

The only hope is the situation is now hopeless and we can play with the freedom of condemned men.

I think we’ll stay up.

Quoted from psgmariner

The new players and Hurst have made us worse. Look at the results and the table

Habergham is an improvement on Preston, the two midfielders are an improvement on Morton, Taylor, Spokes, Williams and Rose, Payne is a improvement on Green and the three young strikers.

Question mark over the centre half at the current time.

In the first half today we played some good stuff. We deserved a point today and the 93rd minute equaliser would have been the morale booster we needed. Hursts side are noticeably better than Holloway’s, but confidence is shot. Once we finally get that first win, I’m confident others will follow. The biggest concern is how soon it comes as the games are drifting by.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p094bxgl


52 minutes in there is an interview with Payne that is worth listening to. He is really up for the fight.

So that is encouraging.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Us and Southend stand out as the two worst teams, both with by far the worst goal differences. It's genuinely impossible to see where the next win is coming from.

I said exactly the same on another thread and some male private suggested I sounded like Churchill.

Quoted from Plankton

It is another bizarre saga to add the annals of GTFC. Proven manager at the highest level of English football, to then completely annihilate a League 2 club. It all seems dodgy and I doubt we'll ever know what the hell the plan was behind Holloway and co.

It’s fu.ckin obvious to me what the plan was . I’ve just had to delete what I was going to put because it sickens me that I was going to post it . Well done Fenty you fuc.kin greedy no mark

Quoted from RonMariner

Can't see us winning two of the next four games to be honest. By then we might be more than six points adrift.

But I agree that we need to win a string of games to lift us out of danger. A point here and there is not good enough at this point.

I can't see us getting a draw.

I don't know how Fenty can sleep at night.

If he really loved the club like he always said he would have gone long before now. It's been clear for years he didn't have the clout to take the club forward

We have stagnated since we got back into the league like that was the height of this ambition.

Since then it's like we've been waiting to go down. A couple of narrow escapes but our luck is about to run out.

When the consortium first showed interest he should have done every in his power to let them come in and do what he could not. Instead he was concerned about getting his cash rather than the best interests of the club . The takeover should have been done and dusted long ago . Instead Fentys petty inflated ego has delayed it and put a step nearer non league for a second time under his stewardship. Great flipping legacy Fenty. You deserve intercourse all back.

It was clear neither the club or Holloway wanted the season to start without fans. Christ Holloway mentioned it in every flipping interview he gave

We let every player out if contract to simply walk away s year ago . Made the rest take pay cuts. Furloughed all other staff....btw the pitch is shocking and the worst can remember.

Did absolutely nothing over the summer hoping the season wouldn't start. When it became clear it was we then brought in a load of players CHEAP.  Unknowns from non league and kids from academies.. CHEAP.

Lacking quality which has become blatantly obvious.. The worst team I can recall watching in 45 years of following Town. And that's saying something with the Lyons and Roberts eras. And the last team to get relegated.

Fenty should be ashamed. The buck stops with him.

The last twenty years have been about greed  you look at our big stand and its held up by large bamboo sticks  the stand has urinals not fit for purpose can you see Fenty or any of the directors q 25 minutes to use the loo  short comings  with renowned well established proffesionals at the club under cutting their pay  absolutely shocking to be honest  no wonder we as a club struggle to bring players here  and now we had a idiot as a manager  pulling the wool over all our eyes  talking the talk and adding insult to injury "I left grimsby in a good position "  
Ithink the head says we've had it but the heart keeps saying no  we all hope Hurst can do something special and turn it around we have to back him and Ido at least we have a real manager not a  Runaway  UTM

This league is absolute shite and on their day anyone can beat anyone. Take things game by game and with a bit of fighting spirit it might just be doable. Hurst and his team work best when they are underdogs.

Except town never seem to have that day. It seems the teams we play have it

Quoted from Numanoid

Oh well, if we do go down we might have a decent season for a change !(better than this shite year after year)always the optimist eh ?

I cannot believe any true GTFC  fan may even suggest we might be better off in the National League, we could be there for years.

Quoted from davmariner

This league is absolute shite and on their day anyone can beat anyone. Take things game by game and with a bit of fighting spirit it might just be doable. Hurst and his team work best when they are underdogs.

I'm not sure Ipswich fans would agree with you.

Quoted from TAGG

We were going down before he stepped in the door.
I'm no fan of PH(didn't want him back) but I know he is trying his hardest to turn this Holloway/Fenty mess around.
When Holloway came to the club all he had to do was get the players we had a bit more organised because we had some decent players where as Hurst had nothing and has had to bring in player and hope they will hit the ground running which has not happened.
Like I said im no fan of PH but I will stick with him and yes give him a 'free pass' he deserves it for taking on Fentys sloppy seconds.

I don't get comments like this. Are you suggesting Paul Hurst was the only manager/ex manager that would be trying their hardest to keep us up.

So far there has been no improvement in fact the Scuntrhorpe game was one of the worst this season and that cannot continue otherwise we could be relegated long before the season ends.

Having been through it before, as much as it is something we all don't want to go through again, the sad reality is that we are just that little bit more hardened to it this time(non league football). Last time it was awful, an insult the end of the world. It felt bad, really bad. None of us knew how to cope, knew how to deal with it. I became a supporter of a new club, " Grimsby Town, Grimsby Town ". That's because i got fed up of having to repeat which team i supported twice in every conversation with a " plastic " fan of pick a premier league team brigade, who would say after my first response of " Grimsby Town "... WHO?.  This time(there is still chance it wont, for various reasons) if it happens, i personally know it will for me not be as bad. I had some of my best times as a supporter since the glory days of the late nineties, following Town in non league. It was fun in so many ways and those trips to Wembley on the way back to league football, were some of the best ever Town days out. So i know we are all drunk off beyond belief at the way the club has been run by Milk Tray Man, but F**k him. We have a new dawn(please God) on the horizon and in the words of The Chumba wumba song " We get knocked down, we get up again, were the famous Grimsby Town". UTM

I’m genuinely terrified what the consequences will be when we go down. Last time it was a novelty, there was something fun and intriguing about Ebbslfeet and Boreham Wood. That’s all gone if we go down again.

If we’re ever allowed back in the grounds again, at this rate it won’t be this year, then the atmospheres will be toxic. It took so much effort to get out of that league and we have just repeated the same mistakes over again with equally predictable outcomes. Doing everything on the cheap being the primary one. We will have battle fatigue when we’re back down, I could honestly see the club sinking further and further. I can’t really express or even comprehend how I feel about it all at the moment. I’m that angry, upset and despairing at what’s been allowed to come of our great club. All of it totally avoidable.

It was the most Grimsby Town thing ever the way we dealt with Covid. I can’t believe I’ve been lectured for umpteen years on how well run we are, how financially stable we are and then when a sound financial footing should give you an opportunity to exploit that we inevitably flounder and go backwards like I’ve never seen before.

We all blame Holloway and it’s right we do but Covid clauses have Fenty penny pinching written all them. Quite frankly we deserve to go down painful as it is to say.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I’m genuinely terrified what the consequences will be when we go down. Last time it was a novelty, there was something fun and intriguing about Ebbslfeet and Boreham Wood. That’s all gone if we go down again.

If we’re ever allowed back in the grounds again, at this rate it won’t be this year, then the atmospheres will be toxic. It took so much effort to get out of that league and we have just repeated the same mistakes over again with equally predictable outcomes. Doing everything on the cheap being the primary one. We will have battle fatigue when we’re back down, I could honestly see the club sinking further and further. I can’t really express or even comprehend how I feel about it all at the moment. I’m that angry, upset and despairing at what’s been allowed to come of our great club. All of it totally avoidable.

It was the most Grimsby Town thing ever the way we dealt with Covid. I can’t believe I’ve been lectured for umpteen years on how well run we are, how financially stable we are and then when a sound financial footing should give you an opportunity to exploit that we inevitably flounder and go backwards like I’ve never seen before.

We all blame Holloway and it’s right we do but Covid clauses have Fenty penny pinching written all them. Quite frankly we deserve to go down painful as it is to say.

Mate, it ain't nowhere near as bad as it used to be. The way the leagues operate now is TOTALLY different to how it was back in the 20th Century. Back then, a committee of chairman decided your fate. A team could have won what would now be called The National league by 20 pts and still be denied entry to The Football League. Nowadays, as long as you meet a few mainly ground safety requirements, promotion back if you win it, is guaranteed. I see the National league nowadays as just another tier of football. A drop down isn't the life sentence it once was. Take my local non league club where i live now " Gainsborough Trinity ". On several occasions during the 20 century they won what is now called the National League and were eligible for promotion to the Football league(and most of us nowadays would accept it as a given), but not back then. They were denied entry because...well..they just were'nt sexy enough at the time. Can you begin to imagine how that must have felt for the supporters of the "other" GTFC?. At least nowadays we know what we have got to do to get back. UTM

Quoted from Mariner_09

4 points off safety, the team above us have 2 games in hand and taken 1 point from 3 of our closest rivals. We deserve to be relegated. I hope Holloway is satisfied with himself.

No come on.  He left us in a better position than when he came. I'm not sure how, but isn't he always right?

Quoted from davmariner

This league is absolute shite and on their day anyone can beat anyone. Take things game by game and with a bit of fighting spirit it might just be doable. Hurst and his team work best when they are underdogs.

Are you fed by tube courtesy of Fenty? Because you talk a lot of excrement.

Quoted from Shipwrecked In Gainsborough

Mate, it ain't nowhere near as bad as it used to be. The way the leagues operate now is TOTALLY different to how it was back in the 20th Century. Back then, a committee of chairman decided your fate. A team could have won what would now be called The National league by 20 pts and still be denied entry to The Football League. Nowadays, as long as you meet a few mainly ground safety requirements, promotion back if you win it, is guaranteed. I see the National league nowadays as just another tier of football. A drop down isn't the life sentence it once was. Take my local non league club where i live now " Gainsborough Trinity ". On several occasions during the 20 century they won what is now called the National League and were eligible for promotion to the Football league(and most of us nowadays would accept it as a given), but not back then. They were denied entry because...well..they just were'nt sexy enough at the time. Can you begin to imagine how that must have felt for the supporters of the "other" GTFC?. At least nowadays we know what we have got to do to get back. UTM

You seem to be forgetting the huge loss in income. When we went down in 2010  we were told we would be losing £500,000 a season.

Do you think the new investors are going to be singing the praises of going to the likes of Bromley, Solihull, Kings Lynn, Wealdstone again.

It concerns me that maybe GTFC isn't a priority with the new owners.

Isn't this just part of the overall package?

Even without a purpose built new ground, perhaps Blundell Park may become just another housing development.