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Our illustrious race horse trainer.
2 horses entered in the first race at Market Rasen today.
Both 1000/1 on Betfair.
One of the horses refuses to race.
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December 30, 2020, 12:18pm |
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thanks for this, really interesting
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December 30, 2020, 12:55pm |
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Our illustrious race horse trainer.
2 horses entered in the first race at Market Rasen today.
Both 1000/1 on Betfair.
One of the horses refuses to race.
Well we have a race horse trainer who can’t train a competitive horse, an accountant who doesn’t want customers to give money for nothing, and a lawyer who defends breaches of the law. What a fine collection of directors we’ve had.
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December 30, 2020, 1:14pm |
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Our illustrious race horse trainer.
One of the horses refuses to race.
Apparently, it refused to race as its trainer was no longer working with John Fenty and that’s not what the horse signed up for 😉
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December 30, 2020, 1:26pm |
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December 30, 2020, 1:27pm |
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Apparently, it refused to race as its trainer was no longer working with John Fenty and that’s not what the horse signed up for 😉
Sounds like i have heared that somewhere before . mmmmmm
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December 30, 2020, 1:29pm |
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I don’t understand how trainers like him can make a living
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December 30, 2020, 1:55pm |
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and there was me thinking he was as good as Ginger McCain and Henry Cecil
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December 30, 2020, 1:57pm |
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He should have put 50p on it and should it have won he'd have got the sum total of his £500 back that he has invested in GTFC.
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December 30, 2020, 2:04pm |
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Well we have a race horse trainer who can’t train a competitive horse, an accountant who doesn’t want customers to give money for nothing, and a lawyer who defends breaches of the law. What a fine collection of directors we’ve had.
You forget the director who though 500 shares were worth 100,000 pound. Then after saying he was here long term and was going to leave a legacy Disappeared before a year had past.
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December 30, 2020, 2:05pm |
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He should have put 50p on it and should it have won he'd have got the sum total of his £500 back that he has invested in GTFC.
his horses are so bad and so poorly trained they would do well to even finish last
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December 30, 2020, 2:09pm |
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You forget the director who though 500 shares were worth 100,000 pound.
Then after saying he was here long term and was going to leave a legacy
Disappeared before a year had past.
That’s true. I’m sure Runaway won’t be unhappy at being left out.
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December 30, 2020, 2:31pm |
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Said horse has now gone to stud.
Owner is demanding £600000 a pop for all the money invested.
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December 30, 2020, 7:05pm |
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Trained nearly 300 winners
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December 30, 2020, 7:09pm |
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Trained nearly 300 winners
In how many years?
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December 30, 2020, 7:11pm |
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Think Holloway would have made a good jockey for Chapman, right build and height and used to not winning
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December 30, 2020, 7:15pm |
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Trained nearly 300 winners
Actually THREE winners in the last five years.
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December 30, 2020, 7:15pm |
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Must be over 15 years at least
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December 30, 2020, 7:22pm |
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Must be over 15 years at least
Closer to 30 years I’d guess .
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December 30, 2020, 7:36pm |
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In the last 5 seasons his record stands at 164 races, 3 winners and 7 placed.
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December 30, 2020, 7:46pm |
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In the last 5 seasons his record stands at 164 races, 3 winners and 7 placed.
makes him eminently suitable to be sat on the Board of a football club which has had a similar level of success Bye Bye dead wood (hopefully)
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December 30, 2020, 8:49pm |
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Think Holloway would have made a good jockey for Chapman, right build and height and used to not winning
Holloway runs faster than the horses!!
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December 31, 2020, 9:38am |
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Who?
Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it. He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
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December 31, 2020, 10:38am |
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Think Holloway would have made a good jockey for Chapman, right build and height and used to not winning
He’d have refused the first hurdle. Due to Covid.
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December 31, 2020, 11:11am |
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Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it.
He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
great first post. looks like paul could become a welcome addition to the board!
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December 31, 2020, 11:35am |
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Chapmans training record is as good as my betting record
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December 31, 2020, 11:48am |
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Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it.
He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
I know someone who bought a ‘race ready’ horse off him that didn’t make it round one circuit of Market Rosen before being consigned to the glue factory.
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December 31, 2020, 12:53pm |
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I know someone who bought a ‘race ready’ horse off him that didn’t make it round one circuit of Market Rosen before being consigned to the glue factory.
I had one like that but it was at Southwell on a New Years day. Don't think it went to the glue factory though, could have finished up in Tesco burger for all I know. Alas, I still got one of those invoices. Do we have any other board members who have an interested in the equine world? To use a local saying, "Bit of a rum lad is our Michael".
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December 31, 2020, 1:09pm |
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Last time i had a bet on the horses bloody thing fell in the paddock
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December 31, 2020, 1:15pm |
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Had quite a few minute shares in different horses over the years, but now shares are way too expensive.
I was at Southwell one day with a runner, got chatting to Michael, when he suggested that we transfer the horse to him, 'I'm a good trainer I am ' was his remark.
I made a lot of friends through ownership's, and notably a Newmarket trainer now retired, who still remains a very good friend.
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HertsGTFC |
December 31, 2020, 1:22pm |
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Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it.
He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
Thanks for replying but I was actually being a little on the sarcastic side as I'm not sure anyone would know him if they walked past him in the street never mind at BP.
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December 31, 2020, 1:43pm |
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Had quite a few minute shares in different horses over the years, but now shares are way too expensive.
I was at Southwell one day with a runner, got chatting to Michael, when he suggested that we transfer the horse to him, 'I'm a good trainer I am ' was his remark.
I made a lot of friends through ownership's, and notably a Newmarket trainer now retired, who still remains a very good friend.
Does Michael Chapman seriously regard himself as a good trainer? His record is absolutely terrible. I suppose he has passion for it mind.
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December 31, 2020, 1:53pm |
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Horse racing again.
Some years ago I had a share in a successful racehorse called 'Glenbuck'.
Bill Shankly's birth place. There is a statue in the village of Bill in the village.
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I had one like that but it was at Southwell on a New Years day. Don't think it went to the glue factory though, could have finished up in Tesco burger for all I know. Alas, I still got one of those invoices. Do we have any other board members who have an interested in the equine world? To use a local saying, "Bit of a rum lad is our Michael".
In 2007 I took the plunge and bought a decent share in my first racehorse. Since then I have had a further six horses mainly with two of the North's top trainers, Kevin Ryan and David O'Meara. Over the years and with a couple of the horses turning out to be decent I've enjoyed meetings all over the country, including four big meetings at Ascot and about a dozen at York Standing in the parade ring, and better still the winner's enclosure is something very special, especially when you've pipped Sir Alex Fergy's and Camilla's horse. Better still, standing with Shaun Pearson and Macca in the stand at Ripon watching our horse burst through to win. Not surprisingly Shaun nearly hit the roof, and more surprisingly, Macca was as cool as a cucumber. Brilliant !
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Looking at his horse training record and the performance of some of our players over the years I wonder if he’s been helping out on the training ground.
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Looking at his horse training record and the performance of some of our players over the years I wonder if he’s been helping out on the training ground.
Looking at the pitch this season, I wonder if he's had his horses training on that too.
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Well if it keeps him employed as a business despite seemingly being awful at it then he must make money out of it somehow......🤔
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Well if it keeps him employed as a business despite seemingly being awful at it then he must make money out of it somehow......🤔
Probably earns his living by selling the horses for a profit.
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Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it.
He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
My God I’ve got £500 in shares, does that mean I can have a seat on the board?!! #UTM
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My God I’ve got £500 in shares, does that mean I can have a seat on the board?!! #UTM
Phillip Day our chairman only has 3k shares, so if you make yours up to 3K you could be chairman!
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My God I’ve got £500 in shares, does that mean I can have a seat on the board?!! #UTM
I think he also had 75k in directors loans he put in some years ago. Unlike John Elsom who at the time bought shares he did it as loans.
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Phillip Day our chairman only has 3k shares, so if you make yours up to 3K you could be chairman!
My God is that all he has, I had no idea. Chairman of a football club with only £3,000 in shares? That’s disgraceful.
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Who is M C Chapman? Mr Michael Christopher Chapman is a race horse trainer (according to company house) and is located at Market Rasen just across the road from the course. He his held in very high esteem by the biggest bookmakers in the country as being a guaranteed profit maker for their companies. The last horse that he sent to the races and won with was on the 8th Nov 2018 the time before that was 24th June 2016. If my memory serve me right on both occasions it was on the eve of a blue moon. More recently he has had little success with 200 runners and not a winners to show for it.
He had a very strange way when sending out the training invoice to the owners that the cheque had to be made out to M Chapman and not M C Chapman and I believe there where three M Chapman's living at the address during the time of my dealings with him. He made the local press a number of years ago when he had one of his lunar winners that the horses success had been achieved by feeding it with Royal Jelly capsules! It is said that before becoming a race horse trainer he was well known for being an insurance salesman although wikipedia cannot confirm this hence (unconfirmed). With not wanting to go on any more I hope this clarifies who our small shareholder (£500 in 2002) on the board his, that being, a race horse trainer with no known ability of being a horse whisperer.
Has put a lot more than that into the club as Rob says. Ironically I was at the race in 2018 that his last horse won!
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Has put a lot more than that into the club as Rob says.
Ironically I was at the race in 2018 that his last horse won!
Rob also mentioned that Chapman loned the money to the club. £75k doesn’t go far in football. Quite a broad definition of ‘put a lot more into the club’.
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Ei Ei was one of his top horses, winning just short of 180K, running in some big races too with distinction.
Sadly lost his life falling at the final hurdle at Market Rasen when he was well clear and destined for victory, surprising cos he was normally a chaser and a good jumper.
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Phillip Day our chairman only has 3k shares, so if you make yours up to 3K you could be chairman!
There is no requirement to own shares/equity in order to become a company director. Being an executive director of a business is an employment role. Being a no executive director of a business is generally an advisory or ambassadorial role.
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Ei Ei was one of his top horses, winning just short of 180K, running in some big races too with distinction.
Sadly lost his life falling at the final hurdle at Market Rasen when he was well clear and destined for victory, surprising cos he was normally a chaser and a good jumper.
Spot on there sigone, 9th June 2004 remember it well broke Mrs Russells heart A good 20+ lengths clear and then that happened, though I have always believed running it twice in four days was more than a little harsh and that last hurdle proved to be one to many. Even Lee Vickers the jockey that day once confided in me that he was of the same opinion. Still in contact with Lee (we both started out with Andy Streeter) who is now a track rider in America. So once again sigone spot on but alas that was 16+ years ago when I had a full head of hair and weighed less that Frankie Dettori does now. Wonder what position Town was in on that date.
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Rob also mentioned that Chapman loned the money to the club. £75k doesn’t go far in football. Quite a broad definition of ‘put a lot more into the club’.
Yeah I believe the loans/price to buy him out stands at around 50k. Or at least that was what he said when he asked us to buy him out. As for 'lack of wins' vs finance - I believe there are other sources of income such as selling/dealing in horses. Furthermore - there is/was some family money there.
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Spot on there sigone, 9th June 2004 remember it well broke Mrs Russells heart A good 20+ lengths clear and then that happened, though I have always believed running it twice in four days was more than a little harsh and that last hurdle proved to be one to many. Even Lee Vickers the jockey that day once confided in me that he was of the same opinion. Still in contact with Lee (we both started out with Andy Streeter) who is now a track rider in America. So once again sigone spot on but alas that was 16+ years ago when I had a full head of hair and weighed less that Frankie Dettori does now. Wonder what position Town was in on that date.
In recent times, Lee has been riding work for James Given who retires from training this weekend. The yard is being taken over by Michael Herrington- I’ve got a small share in a 3 year old.
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Not football but I know, just a passing interest in our race horse trainer board member on a lockdown Monday morning Covid is not stopping our Mr M C Chapman who's got a runner at Donny today Luduamf. Only ever won a 6 furlong seller in 2016 (Richard Hannon trained), maybe a future Cheltenham Gold Cup winner! 100/1 in early morning betting show, 250/1 in it's last race. When pigs fly comes to mind.
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Saw it pulling a milk float down Scartho Rd at 4-30 this morning - seemed pretty fit to me
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Well if it keeps him employed as a business despite seemingly being awful at it then he must make money out of it somehow......🤔
If ever there was a strapline for this football club....
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