NELC Statement

Did anyone fully catch what Burnsy said about the council statement.

Didn't catch it all but what I did read a bit like:

This is a personal matter and we separate between personal and political, we're not that interested otherwise.

Surely not??

They will all stick together and pull up the drawbridge, it's what they do. The Tories have all the power at NELC.

It's evident that no-one is standing up and defending JF as yet.

NELC statement: nothing to see.

John Fenty statement: nothing to see

Alex May statement: nothing to see

Conclusion ?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

NELC statement: nothing to see.

John Fenty statement: nothing to see

Alex May statement: nothing to see

Conclusion ?

Nothing to be concerned about?  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

NELC statement: nothing to see.

John Fenty statement: nothing to see

Alex May statement: nothing to see

Conclusion ?

Turmoli? Power Struggle? Fans Protests? Zoom Meetings?

Pointless comments. No council will say any different at this stage. Who knows the facts yet? I will bet Mr “keep it close” Fenty has not spread any words around even amongst the Tory group and never dreamed anyone would recognise May at BP.

If Mr Fenty didn't disclose this on his council register of interest, as he alludes to in his statement, he has broken the council's code of conduct.

There should be an investigation which hopefully other councillors will call for.

I am sure that was an oversight by JF and nothing untoward was meant by not disclosing it.

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Alex May has been involved in discussions with the council.

I can imagine NELC will be bricking it right about now...

Quoted from bax

If Mr Fenty didn't disclose this on his council register of interest, as he alludes to in his statement, he has broken the council's code of conduct.

There should be an investigation which hopefully other councillors will call for.

I am sure that was an oversight by JF and nothing untoward was meant by not disclosing it.

The statement says that the company isn't trading and it will be added to his register of interests when it does.

Alex May said that he has met with regen people at NELC. If that is true and the pair had set up a business together, trading or not, I would say it's a conflict of interest and should be declared but that would be for others to decide. I am sure JF will have no issue with this being investigated by an independent body if he believes he has done the right thing.

(Disclaimer - i have previously worked in the public sector and have some experience and knowledge of the code of conduct and standards committee)

Labour opposition on NE Lincs Council writing to the Tory Council Leader Phillip Jackson calling for an investigation into Fenty and for him to be stripped of his Deputy Leader role on the Council:

https://twitter.com/LabourPark/status/1338457290127634432

Just opportunist politics, Fenty probably hasn't done anything against the ethics and requrements of his position and I'm also sure that had Fenty been Libour the Tories would be sending a near identical request to the council leader. The only thing that matters in any of this is May investing or setting up shady deals with the club or if he gets involved in the regeneration money.

Quoted from bax

Alex May has been involved in discussions with the council.

I can imagine NELC will be bricking it right about now...

According to a release read out on the Burnsy show from NELC this matter is a personal matter for Mr Fenty, but Mr May has said he has been in talks with NELC.

If they have been in discussions with a convicted fraudster then they need to issue another statement pretty quickly.

A council that has meetings with convicted fraudsters  and a councilor in high office sets up a company with him , needs more than a inquirey in house .. National government and the police need to be involved  .. And whover said that this con man can go watch a game needs fining as well as him.. and Mr Day needs fining as well as he was sat with him

Think a referral should be made to the Monitoring Officer.

Quoted from denni266

A council that has meetings with convicted fraudsters  and a councilor in high office sets up a company with him , needs more than a inquirey in house .. National government and the police need to be involved  .. And whover said that this con man can go watch a game needs fining as well as him.. and Mr Day needs fining as well as he was sat with him

Your talking a load of Tosh police investigations etc your avin a laff. I am no Fenty or Tory fan but that is so over the top its hilarious.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Your talking a load of Tosh police investigations etc your avin a laff. I am no Fenty or Tory fan but that is so over the top its hilarious.

Why?

Should councillor’s be holding meetings with convicted fraudsters about regeneration schemes, public money and property developments?

At worst, it isn’t a good look for anyone involved

I bet there has been a rush on shredding machines in NE Lincs this morning. JSF isn’t good on email, so he relies on getting his fax right

Here is a fact for you:

NELC's initial statement was a lie.

They said what they said (about it being a separate, personal issue) knowing that wasn't true, because they had held meetings with May.

Therefore NELC lied to the public.

That's huge. They are meant to be working for us, the people who elected them. If they lie about something like this, what else have they lied about?

An investigation is absolutely necessary. It could unravel a whole lot more.

Quoted from RichMariner

Here is a fact for you:

NELC's initial statement was a lie.

They said what they said (about it being a separate, personal issue) knowing that wasn't true, because they had held meetings with May.

Therefore NELC lied to the public.

That's huge. They are meant to be working for us, the people who elected them. If they lie about something like this, what else have they lied about?

An investigation is absolutely necessary. It could unravel a whole lot more.

If somebody contacts the council regarding regeneration, it would be wrong of the council to instantly dismiss something. Maybe they held talks and decided given his history that it shouldn't be pursued. Nobody is lying in that scenario and it's not difficult to envisage. Why jump to a conclusion that everybody is doing the worst possible thing all of the time?

Quoted from pen penfras

If somebody contacts the council regarding regeneration, it would be wrong of the council to instantly dismiss something. Maybe they held talks and decided given his history that it shouldn't be pursued. Nobody is lying in that scenario and it's not difficult to envisage. Why jump to a conclusion that everybody is doing the worst possible thing all of the time?

Why didn't they mention this then rather than saying it was just a personal matter for JF when it now appears it wasn't?

Absolutely.

Quoted from pen penfras

Why jump to a conclusion that everybody is doing the worst possible thing all of the time?

Possibly because, in GTFC terms, that's usually the case. I don't find Fenty or any of his fellow councillors particularly trustworthy. It's my natural conclusion: be sceptical of everything, never take things at face value.

Also: always hold people in power to account. Never stop asking difficult questions.

One lie tends to follow another.

Quoted from pen penfras

If somebody contacts the council regarding regeneration, it would be wrong of the council to instantly dismiss something. Maybe they held talks and decided given his history that it shouldn't be pursued. Nobody is lying in that scenario and it's not difficult to envisage. Why jump to a conclusion that everybody is doing the worst possible thing all of the time?

Pen. The council statement is a lie. It is not just a personal matter between John is it.
Alex May states he attended meetings with various members of the council.
John is deputy leader of the couincil.
John is owner of GTFC.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Labour opposition on NE Lincs Council writing to the Tory Council Leader Phillip Jackson calling for an investigation into Fenty and for him to be stripped of his Deputy Leader role on the Council:

https://twitter.com/LabourPark/status/1338457290127634432

Chancers 😂
The biggest deal any of the local Labour Party have ever been involved in is buying a pound of spuds at Freemo market

Quoted from arryarryarry

Why didn't they mention this then rather than saying it was just a personal matter for JF when it now appears it wasn't?

If they decided not to pursue anything with him and his contacts, but JF did on a personal level, then that's exactly what it is. We don't hear about any of the other hundreds of people that the council don't get involved with but talk to. I'm sure this isn't the first person with a chequered past that has discussed regeneration.

Nothing personal about the council portfolio holder for regeneration setting up a property development company with a criminal whose raison d’etre was dodgy property deals is there? A man who confessed on the radio he’d been talking to the council too.

This is the sort of thing that I’d expect to read in rotten boroughs in private eye.

Quoted from grimps

Chancers 😂
The biggest deal any of the local Labour Party have ever been involved in is buying a pound of spuds at Freemo market

And the biggest deal any of the local Tory Party have ever been involved in is stealing them and guzzling them out of the trough.

Quoted from pen penfras

If they decided not to pursue anything with him and his contacts, but JF did on a personal level, then that's exactly what it is. We don't hear about any of the other hundreds of people that the council don't get involved with but talk to. I'm sure this isn't the first person with a chequered past that has discussed regeneration.

How many of these hundreds of people and those with chequered pasts have personal dealings with the Deputy Leader of the Council?

Quoted from pen penfras

If they decided not to pursue anything with him and his contacts, but JF did on a personal level, then that's exactly what it is. We don't hear about any of the other hundreds of people that the council don't get involved with but talk to. I'm sure this isn't the first person with a chequered past that has discussed regeneration.

I would also add that now this issue has gone from local interest to national media why didn't they come out with, yes they had had meetings but didn't pursue it futher rather than 'it's nothing to do with us' comment?

MP’s and Councillor’s have a common-denominator in having oversights in declaring conflicts of interest or registering business interests.  Very convenient for them.

Further evidence that it's physically impossible to wriggle off a hook.

This one has got plenty of legs me thinks...

Quoted from grimps

Chancers 😂
The biggest deal any of the local Labour Party have ever been involved in is buying a pound of spuds at Freemo market

Right then, what should the opposition party be doing when the deputy council leader's dodgy business dealings with a convicted fraudster have been caught out and he's refusing to answer questions or clarify his behaviour?

I mean, did the same person who wrote Fenty’s none statement wrote the councils?

Surely not? There’s some excellent people at the council, particularly in communications department and legal...they can’t have come up with that.

If elected councillors have been in meetings with this chap I would assume there would have actually been some employees of the council there also, so should their position be looked at ?

I wonder if someone could put in a Freedom of Information request to see just how many times Alex May met with the council, and the minutes taken from those meetings?

That's what I'd be doing if I were a journalist reporting on this issue.

One thing that has me raising an eyebrow, as it did even before all this came to light, is how JF got to be portfolio holder for regeneration at NELC. It's not as if he has any experience of major building projects as far as I am aware. Surely there are people around who have more knowledge and contacts in this field?

Or maybe I am missing something obvious?

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Your talking a load of Tosh police investigations etc your avin a laff. I am no Fenty or Tory fan but that is so over the top its hilarious.

Along with other threads relating to this, there is a lot of sanctimonious hyperbole flying about.

If we were employed by a company, and held a high position, and then we partied with an unusual party of criminal activity, surely the integrity of that position with the Company is brought into fruition of the cause. We have a top councillor  having 'behind the doors' deals, admittingly in private life, but it must come back to his standing as a Councillor leadership member. He hasnt disclosed anything of the Company, so that alone goes withoutstanding an unlawful deed. I cant speak for us fans, but i feel my beloved Club are being taken down in esteem, and can only give us a bad name to national clubs and players. My feelings are with a lot of you fans on here, John Fenty, Mr.Day and maybe others should speak the truth on this, and 'maybe' Ollie. Grimsby Town F.C. is a fan Club, raised by us, 'employed ' by us, and paid by us. Without the fanbase we would be nothing. The dealings that have occured by the invitations to the asaid person, and no invition to any fan, is a greavance. On my thoughts alone, i would reccommend that the Council should take more interest in this, and that the Directors and Chairman should tell the truth. And for my last moan... what was the reason for Tom Shuted to be cast aside?, He had really good intent, he came to you on several occasions, plannong a new ground at his expense, investing in the Club, it just seems strange that when Tom Shutes was kicked out, Alec May and Fenty formed the company of their own. It stinks. I will not be coming back to Blundell Park, i will not be buying Merchandise, and i will not be on ifollow again. My loved Club of 60 years has let me down, a part of me is now missing.

Totally agree dicko  he has devalued this club to the point it only value is that of a building plot.For God's sake go man.

Gotta admire the resilience of the person who red crosses every anti Fenty post .They must have been living under a rock or they are J.S .F. himself.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Your talking a load of Tosh police investigations etc your avin a laff. I am no Fenty or Tory fan but that is so over the top its hilarious.

You OK with rule breaking and poor judgment by your councillors then?

Quoted from friskneymariner

Gotta admire the resilience of the person who red crosses every anti Fenty post .They must have been living under a rock or they are J.S .F. himself.

Well let’s keep it up, tire the buggersout 😄

Quoted from Boris Johnson

Turmoli? Power Struggle? Fans Protests? Zoom Meetings?

Sounds like 4 foreigners that Ollie may be interested in signing

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Sounds like 4 foreigners that Ollie may be interested in signing

What! No Julio Geordio?

Quoted from rancido

Along with other threads relating to this, there is a lot of sanctimonious hyperbole flying about.

I’d rather be sanctimonious than get into business with a fraudster who’s trying to win business with the council I was head of regeneration for.

At best it’s about poor judgment by Fenty.

Quoted from Boris Johnson

Turmoli? Power Struggle? Fans Protests? Zoom Meetings?

DisMay?  

Quoted from friskneymariner

Gotta admire the resilience of the person who red crosses every anti Fenty post .They must have been living under a rock or they are J.S .F. himself.

JSF will have a hard time red crossing on his burner when he’s doing porridge. No fishy talk for him. He’ll be lucky if he has Snake

Quoted from KingstonMariner

What! No Julio Geordio?

You mean D'Wayne Fandango don't you?  

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

You mean D'Wayne Fandango don't you?  

I’m not that optimistic!

Quoted from RichMariner

I wonder if someone could put in a Freedom of Information request to see just how many times Alex May met with the council, and the minutes taken from those meetings?

That's what I'd be doing if I were a journalist reporting on this issue.

Trouble is May could have turned with a Groucho Marx style set of glasses and false nose and be working under another name/alias to go undetected.

I do have access to council committee minutes and having just used the "word search" function on meeting minutes of the last 6 months there were zero results for Alex May or his previous name which is reassuring.

However Ivor Biggun, Kermit A Krime, Penny Pincher & Seymour Butts have been at several regeneration meetings in that time.  

Quoted from moosey_club

Trouble is May could have turned with a Groucho Marx style set of glasses and false nose and be working under another name/alias to go undetected.

I do have access to council committee minutes and having just used the "word search" function on meeting minutes of the last 6 months there were zero results for Alex May or his previous name which is reassuring.

However Ivor Biggun, Kermit A Krime, Penny Pincher & Seymour Butts have been at several regeneration meetings in that time.  

Bloody hell...Fenty hasn’t half got a fair few aliases...

Quoted from KingstonMariner

You OK with rule breaking and poor judgment by your councillors then?

1 He's not my councillor I'm glad to say, I am lucky and live in a place where my local councillors have no political aims/v independant and purely rep our areas views to the best of  their ability.

2 On the face of it at best what he has done could be considered a little unethical (but this of course relates to what peoples individual beliefs and ethics are to start with) and at worse may constitute him being pulled up for bringing his position on the council into disrepute but unless hes received payment from May for an introduction to NELC then no laws will have been broken.

3 People need to calm down. There are dodgy dealings going on at most councils, that flout the rules, but rarely is it a matter of breaking laws.

PS and no amount of shouting about it will ever stop it happening again.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

1 He's not my councillor I'm glad to say, I am lucky and live in a place where my local councillors have no political aims/v independant and purely rep our areas views to the best of  their ability.

2 On the face of it at best what he has done could be considered a little unethical (but this of course relates to what peoples individual beliefs and ethics are to start with) and at worse may constitute him being pulled up for bringing his position on the council into disrepute but unless hes received payment from May for an introduction to NELC then no laws will have been broken.

3 People need to calm down. There are dodgy dealings going on at most councils, that flout the rules, but rarely is it a matter of breaking laws.

Very true Madeleymariner especially point 3. I read Private Eye and the section "Rotten Boroughs" is full of dodgy dealings in Councils of all political persuasions.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

1 He's not my councillor I'm glad to say, I am lucky and live in a place where my local councillors have no political aims/v independant and purely rep our areas views to the best of  their ability.

2 On the face of it at best what he has done could be considered a little unethical (but this of course relates to what peoples individual beliefs and ethics are to start with) and at worse may constitute him being pulled up for bringing his position on the council into disrepute but unless hes received payment from May for an introduction to NELC then no laws will have been broken.

3 People need to calm down. There are dodgy dealings going on at most councils, that flout the rules, but rarely is it a matter of breaking laws.

Yes, but he did rent the Club out to UKIP, an organization that are racist and have taken our country down the pan. He allowed these bigots in our Club, allowed them to use the black and white stripes. A lever so he and his mates could take control of the council and send another Tory male masturbator to London. When will normal folk wake up and see how they have been duped.

I backed Ollie this season and bought a season ticket, I met him in Jan at a pie and peas event, he shook my hand but now I will not spend a penny more at GTFC until Fenty goes.

Latest revelations from the GT

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/walsh-jackson-fenty-alex-may-4797859

First time we have had a majority Tory council. Going well isn't it?

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Quoted from Madeleymariner

1 He's not my councillor I'm glad to say, I am lucky and live in a place where my local councillors have no political aims/v independant and purely rep our areas views to the best of  their ability.

2 On the face of it at best what he has done could be considered a little unethical (but this of course relates to what peoples individual beliefs and ethics are to start with) and at worse may constitute him being pulled up for bringing his position on the council into disrepute but unless hes received payment from May for an introduction to NELC then no laws will have been broken.

3 People need to calm down. There are dodgy dealings going on at most councils, that flout the rules, but rarely is it a matter of breaking laws.

So that’s alright then is it?

Quoted from moosey_club

Trouble is May could have turned with a Groucho Marx style set of glasses and false nose and be working under another name/alias to go undetected.

I do have access to council committee minutes and having just used the "word search" function on meeting minutes of the last 6 months there were zero results for Alex May or his previous name which is reassuring.

However Ivor Biggun, Kermit A Krime, Penny Pincher & Seymour Butts have been at several regeneration meetings in that time.  

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/walsh-jackson-fenty-alex-may-4797859

I suppose you don’t have to minute every meeting. Thanks for your check though.

Reading the telegraph today,nelc spokesman says they had no knowledge I find that hard to believe https://www.nottscountyfc.co.u.....-1600.png/Exclusive: Evidence places fresh scrutiny over true role of Alex May in Notts County takeover

May was said to be advising lawyer Colin Dodd's group, but evidence suggests the convicted conman has a more significant role
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Just stinks doesn’t it? 25 million to regenerate the town, and suddenly councillors are setting up property development and energy companies. If Alex May wasn’t looking for his cut, we probably wouldn’t have noticed them looking to skim off their cuts.

Quoted from Dan

Just stinks doesn’t it? 25 million to regenerate the town, and suddenly councillors are setting up property development and energy companies. If Alex May wasn’t looking for his cut, we probably wouldn’t have noticed them looking to skim off their cuts.

It really is utterly disgraceful from Fenty and his gang, it really is. Talk about conflict of interests. Portfolio holder for regeneration in Grimsby, and he sets up a business for "Town centre living" (regeneration) with a convicted crook. I wonder why that would be?

Quoted from Stadium

Latest revelations from the GT

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/walsh-jackson-fenty-alex-may-4797859

Didn't the NELC statement say that they had merely been in talks with May?

Deviously omitting that they actually had meetings where such talks would have been taking place?

Something very fishy about this indeed......

So not only is this seemingly getting worse for Fenty, the council are probably sweating to...

Looking forward to seeing us feature in next weeks private eye...

Quoted from KingstonMariner

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So that’s alright then is it?

No it isn't alright for them to do dodgy stuff, but majority of councillors who get to chair or lead groups (or are part of the top table) tend to be career politicians often with ties to a political party, who are in it for the money/kudos/what they can get out of it., its unlikely to change and if you get rid of your current bunch of councillors they are likely to be replaced with a similar set dependant on the current political climate, or by tradition where a ward would vote for a monkey or a donkey if it had right political party rosette on its chest, as people dont generally care about local politics till there is a scandel or it directly affects them in a negative way. I'm curious how many on here know who your local councillor is, where he lives/has lived/jobs hes done/how he has voted in the chamber since elected/previous political leanings/club and association memberships. etc because until people look into who they plan to vote for it ain't going to change.  

What I find hilarious is that several thousand football fans at Grimsby, Counteh and Chesterfield knew of this man and his convictions for the last 2 years at least, but the NELC didn't. JF knew his past, we already know that much, but it seems the movers and shakers on the rest of the committee didn't. Hmmm!

I've thought right from the off that his position at the council was a conflict of interest, and his "stepping back" from the club was in name only. Now he says he's coming back to the club, that he never really left anyway.

I hope all those at the NELC who were grinning like Cheshire cats when they swept to power, get looked at long and hard over this. Let's not forget they inherited this windfall, which was set up and got over the line by the previous administration.

I just hope that with Fenty being involved in GTFC, and these misdemeanors cropping up, that the EFL dont get involved about the running of our beloved Club, and we eventually get points deducted, that would be a dagger through the heart of the Club, and not a nice exit for Fenty.

Quoted from ginnywings

What I find hilarious is that several thousand football fans at Grimsby, Counteh and Chesterfield knew of this man and his convictions for the last 2 years at least, but the NELC didn't. JF knew his past, we already know that much, but it seems the movers and shakers on the rest of the committee didn't. Hmmm!

I've thought right from the off that his position at the council was a conflict of interest, and his "stepping back" from the club was in name only. Now he says he's coming back to the club, that he never really left anyway.

I hope all those at the NELC who were grinning like Cheshire cats when they swept to power, get looked at long and hard over this. Let's not forget they inherited this windfall, which was set up and got over the line by the previous administration.

nottingham city council also knew about him. They had a meeting with him, then did due diligence and the result was no further meetings

Quoted from Madeleymariner

No it isn't alright for them to do dodgy stuff, but majority of councillors who get to chair or lead groups (or are part of the top table) tend to be career politicians often with ties to a political party, who are in it for the money/kudos/what they can get out of it., its unlikely to change and if you get rid of your current bunch of councillors they are likely to be replaced with a similar set dependant on the current political climate, or by tradition where a ward would vote for a monkey or a donkey if it had right political party rosette on its chest, as people dont generally care about local politics till there is a scandel or it directly affects them in a negative way. I'm curious how many on here know who your local councillor is, where he lives/has lived/jobs hes done/how he has voted in the chamber since elected/previous political leanings/club and association memberships. etc because until people look into who they plan to vote for it ain't going to change.  

That’s my whole point. You seem to be excusing it on the basis that corruption and unethical behaviour are fairly widespread.

I don’t need to justify my position by saying anything about my local councillors. Behaviour like Fenty’s is wrong whether my local councillors are paragons of virtue or have their fingers so far in the till their shoulders are stuck. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

No matter how many wrongs there are, it doesn’t make a right, to coin something my late mother used to say.

I think this is a wider problem, the acceptance of such levels of megalomania and dodgy shenanigans.

This year we’ve seen it on a truly National level, that filters down. Simply saying if these go they’ll be replaced by equally as ropey folk didn’t justify it or make it alright.

With a dozing general public, people in office be it at a small town local authority or a national government are rubbing their hands together. Nationally people are getting their knickers in a twist if someone doesn’t wear a mask yet aren’t seemingly screaming with anger at the free cash handed over to chums office cabinet ministers. Tax payer cash.

Locally, people are naturally fuming about the thought of entertaining a chap like this and the hand in the til attitude from many in power yet after a week people get bored. Perhaps if they didn’t, perhaps if the pressure was kept up then may be, just may be there’d be change.

Quoted from aldi_01

I think this is a wider problem, the acceptance of such levels of megalomania and dodgy shenanigans.

This year we’ve seen it on a truly National level, that filters down. Simply saying if these go they’ll be replaced by equally as ropey folk didn’t justify it or make it alright.

With a dozing general public, people in office be it at a small town local authority or a national government are rubbing their hands together. Nationally people are getting their knickers in a twist if someone doesn’t wear a mask yet aren’t seemingly screaming with anger at the free cash handed over to chums office cabinet ministers. Tax payer cash.

Locally, people are naturally fuming about the thought of entertaining a chap like this and the hand in the til attitude from many in power yet after a week people get bored. Perhaps if they didn’t, perhaps if the pressure was kept up then may be, just may be there’d be change.

Better the devil you know than the socialists you dont

Quoted from Garth

Better the devil you know than the socialists you dont

'Kin 'Ell.

Deluded or what?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It really is utterly disgraceful from Fenty and his gang, it really is. Talk about conflict of interests. Portfolio holder for regeneration in Grimsby, and he sets up a business for "Town centre living" (regeneration) with a convicted crook. I wonder why that would be?

A company that has business in Halifax, Whitchurch and Liverpool. How is that a conflict of interest to a councillor in Grimsby?

Quoted from pen penfras

A company that has business in Halifax, Whitchurch and Liverpool. How is that a conflict of interest to a councillor in Grimsby?

Why has he "resigned" from his post then?

Quoted from ginnywings

Why has he "resigned" from his post then?

Because politics is about the public perception and not, necessarily, matter of fact. People are, understandably, not happy with somebody in the public domain being associated with a convicted fraudster. As such, that is politically unfavourable, and the leader probably asked him to step down. It's not an admission of guilt, it's an alignment with the best interests of the party.

Quoted from pen penfras

Because politics is about the public perception and not, necessarily, matter of fact. People are, understandably, not happy with somebody in the public domain being associated with a convicted fraudster. As such, that is politically unfavourable, and the leader probably asked him to step down. It's not an admission of guilt, it's an alignment with the best interests of the party.

Oh, come on for Gods sake. Who on earth, as deputy leader of a council and in charge of regeneration would set up a business with a convicted fraudster in the business of, er, regeneration?

The whole thing absolutely stinks.

Quoted from pen penfras

Because politics is about the public perception and not, necessarily, matter of fact. People are, understandably, not happy with somebody in the public domain being associated with a convicted fraudster. As such, that is politically unfavourable, and the leader probably asked him to step down. It's not an admission of guilt, it's an alignment with the best interests of the party.

" alignment with the best interests of the party"


I actually laughed out loud when I read that.

Can he align with the best interests of the club and do one?

I don’t go with the “better the devil you know theory” but I am against this immediate condemnation of people because their flag is blue and not red. I am old enough to remember the way Labour administrations gave away huge chunks of the town to developers in the days when there was no social media and the only way to comment was a posted letter to the GT. I remember too the way developments and contracts looked so dodgy in the “ENGIE years”. That does not make all Labour councillors before or since suspect but it does mean we should stop looking at parties and start looking at individuals.

The first ones I would want to investigate, apart from the Deputy Leader, would be council officers from Chief Executive to all involved in the due diligence office of planning and development. They are the people who have been involved in several abortive development proposals for different administrations  in recent years and more importantly they are the ones whose job it is to flag up the suitability or otherwise of potential developers. Most of those people were actually appointed under the previous administration. Whatever responsible position a councillor has, be it planning or transport or education etc. they rely heavily on advice and reports from paid officials. Councillors rarely do their own Googling. So I would start an investigation there that goes back beyond the Parkway fiasco and the New Waltham development.

I don’t expect any of that to happen though. It should but it never does. What we will see is some carefully choreographed manoeuvres involving JF and possibly the Shutes lot but with little given away to the public until deals are finalised.

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A company that has business in Halifax, Whitchurch and Liverpool. How is that a conflict of interest to a councillor in Grimsby?

What is to stop a business in those towns doing business in another? This area has been given millions for regeneration so why shouldn't a company based elsewhere make a bid to do that work. I know of a business based in Grimsby that does work all over the UK.

From your comments on this matter and others may I suggest you are either JF himself or very close to the Fenty Clan.

C'mon Pen, time to get your back off that snooker table!..you cannot defend the indefensible, yet you try and just keep shovelling deeper down that rabbit hole. Wake up, smell the coffee, get you head out of where it smells and open your eyes!..