If he cant get in this midfield then whats the point of him being here.
Theres clearly something amiss as since he's signed he's barely played, but as an Artell type player, I'm a little confused as to how little chance he's been given
Hunt not in Pearson Davies ? plans either given the uncertainty about how long artell going to be here you would have thought once he has gone he would have been brought back into the fold
I've always been less than impressed with Hunt and was surprised when Hurst actually paid money for him but, heck, the way our midfield has been playing this year, I'd have given him a chance in there by now!
The fact that he's hardly had a look-in under both Hurst and now Artell, would tend to indicate he hasn't been impressing in training.
I said previously that if Artell couldn’t get a tune out of Hunt then I’d hold my hands up and just accept he’s probably not got it in him at this level.
Really can’t understand it when you see some of the absolute junk in a town shirt though. If he can’t force his way into this team then I suppose most of it must be on him.
I seem to recall Artell was only praising Hunt a few weeks ago. I can understand Hunt wanting game time but if he has been that bad why did pay a large fee for him?
I suppose it saves wages and stops us from asking when will he play, but it all looks strange to me.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
I seem to recall Artell was only praising Hunt a few weeks ago. I can understand Hunt wanting game time but if he has been that bad why did pay a large fee for him?
I suppose it saves wages and stops us from asking when will he play, but it all looks strange to me.
He’s just like Bignot, talks a load of excrement and does another thing altogether. Not that I’m a huge fan of Hunt either.
You’d think that he’d even make a decent option off the bench for the last 20, but given the current lot are usually 4 goals adrift at that point maybe there’s the issue.
Bit surprised by this, Hunt has been average to good at times, but our midfield is absolutely dogger at the minute, hope Thompson is fit for the weekend.
I was a fan when he was here first time and I think he has had some good games this time, yes he has had poor games but no worse than the shower of excrement that Artell has been picking.
Great decision. You want to play football so get rid of the only available player who can pass a ball forward. 🤔 Does this mean we're going into survival mode and dispense with passing? Bizarre decision in my opinion and just wait till passes start going astray from Andrews Green and Clifton I can hear tge booing already. De de de der der Blundell Park is falling down Artell is a effin clown 🤡
Hunt is hugely overrated by most. He looked good for the first 2 months then dropped off to be fairly anonymous until his loan ended. Went to Oldham and hardly played.
Gives absolutely nothing that I see. Plays too deep and slows the game down looking for a pass then goes sideways. He's certainly shown an ability to play a nice pass on occasion, but is poor at everything else and doesn't do enough that counts to carry him.
And even though I don't and never have rated him, I still think it's crazy to let him go right now. The club is a total circus.
Yet another scapegoat for the managers' poor vision and tactics. Again he's off-loading a player that hasn't had a chance or fair run in the team to qualify any real judgement. By the end of the season we will be needing the best part of a new team (yet again) and probably end up with another bunch of misfits and another season of struggling. There's a reason Crewe showed him the door and why he hasn't been taken on until he found us mugs. The sooner he's gone, the better. From the word go I said he was another Bignot bullsh1tter.
Hunt is hugely overrated by most. He looked good for the first 2 months then dropped off to be fairly anonymous until his loan ended. Went to Oldham and hardly played.
Gives absolutely nothing that I see. Plays too deep and slows the game down looking for a pass then goes sideways. He's certainly shown an ability to play a nice pass on occasion, but is poor at everything else and doesn't do enough that counts to carry him.
And even though I don't and never have rated him, I still think it's crazy to let him go right now. The club is a total circus.
Not sure anyone can argue your point and the last paragraph especially you need all available options. I wonder if we're skint?
I've said similar on twitter but he doesnt start Gav on Saturday I'm gonna lose my mind. he cannot, just cannot start with that central midfield 3 of last week
I've said similar on twitter but he doesnt start Gav on Saturday I'm gonna lose my mind. he cannot, just cannot start with that central midfield 3 of last week
Holohan is absolutely junk off the ball, lazy and doesn't track back consistently except in occasional bursts after he's trotted around doing very little.
This decision to ship Hunt out is absolutely dreadful. It's a low bar but since Artell has come in he's been the best performing central midfielder still at the club. Look at the run of games since Hurst got sacked:
Aside from the Salford game when he was injured Hunt featured in nearly all of our better results (the Mansfield and Walsall games we lost he only came on as a late sub with the game already lost). It's obvious, both statistically and to anyone with eyes that we were a better team with Hunt in midfield. Why the intercourse would we freeze him out and ship him off to York when we're persisting with a central midfield full of dreadful shite that's consistently conceding goals for fun?! The club is copulated and we'll be in non-league next season.
A decision that’s about finished me off for this season and, if we go down, for the foreseeable future. Over the years we have had some poor midfield players but the current collection is the worst in my 60+ years of going to BP.
Appreciate Hunt was everyone’s idea of a decent player but I rated him and thought if he could play further forward he could be creative and help get us some points. At least he could actually control the bloody ball, something beyond Green and Clifton, so I see little point in attending any further games as there is nobody, other than Rose, worth watching.
Really hope we stay up but given how the club is going that seems a forlorn hope. Respect to those of you who continue to attend matches and give support.
Holohan is absolutely junk off the ball, lazy and doesn't track back consistently except in occasional bursts after he's trotted around doing very little.
This decision to ship Hunt out is absolutely dreadful. It's a low bar but since Artell has come in he's been the best performing central midfielder still at the club. Look at the run of games since Hurst got sacked:
Aside from the Salford game when he was injured Hunt featured in nearly all of our better results (the Mansfield and Walsall games we lost he only came on as a late sub with the game already lost). It's obvious, both statistically and to anyone with eyes that we were a better team with Hunt in midfield. Why the intercourse would we freeze him out and ship him off to York when we're persisting with a central midfield full of dreadful shite that's consistently conceding goals for fun?! The club is copulated and we'll be in non-league next season.
Well we've got midfielders who supposedly do that, Also think thats very harsh.
6 games won this season, gav Started 5 of them... says a lot. He scores, he assists, he's the best midfielder at the club
Hunts been shipped out as clearly theres stuff behind the scenes, There has to be
Not sure anyone can argue your point and the last paragraph especially you need all available options. I wonder if we're skint?
If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.
Well we've got midfielders who supposedly do that, Also think thats very harsh.
6 games won this season, gav Started 5 of them... says a lot. He scores, he assists, he's the best midfielder at the club
Hunts been shipped out as clearly theres stuff behind the scenes, There has to be
Oh don't get me wrong, Holohan's still by far the best remaining box to box central midfield option and I really think if we'd just played him with Thompson and Hunt for the rest of the season we'd see results improve, but this decision to jettison Hunt has ruined any chance of that. I don't want to see Clifton, Green or Andrews starting again in central midfield this season but now it looks like an inevitability that they will.
Oh don't get me wrong, Holohan's still by far the best remaining box to box central midfield option and I really think if we'd just played him with Thompson and Hunt for the rest of the season we'd see results improve, but this decision to jettison Hunt has ruined any chance of that. I don't want to see Clifton, Green or Andrews starting again in central midfield this season but now it looks like an inevitability that they will.
Gav’s ok going defensive box to attacking box. The other way? Less so.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Just do not understand the decision. Artell states he is the best technically midfielder we have, Against MK Dons,Artells first game in charge Hunt, Conteh and Glennon were the best players. Against Oxford again Conteh and Glennon until he went off were the best players.Two are gone and the third not playing as he cant defend,? then play him left side of midfield so he can knock the crosses in for Rose or whoever he deems to put up front.
I’m not sorry to see any of them go , much of a muchness throughout the squad
That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.
I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.
That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.
I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.
Hunts just not got the physicality for this league imo agree about rose a bright flower in a bed of weeds
There simply has to be something about him to get so many managers just not fancying him, especially after initially impressing them. I'm beyond caring on that now, clear as day that he doesn't gave a future here.
But you can't tell me he wouldn't be an improvement on the current midfield. That's the thing that's really pissing me off. Farming players out when they're better, albeit a very low bar, than what is currently in the starting eleven.
I wanted to believe in Artell. I really wanted him to transform us into an entertaining and successful side. I was prepared to wait and trust the process, accepting the ups and downs. But I'm done with him. Nothing is making any sense. He's flipping about with our league status.
When Hunt took that touch past that MK Dons midfielder, left him on his bottom and slipped the ball through to Gnahoua (?) in the second half of Artell's first match in charge I thought we finally had a manager who could unlock his potential. Even more so after Artell waxed lyrical about his ability and his role going forward. Fast forward to today and him going to York on loan is just the latest in an odd and unsatisfying Town career, especially so as Pearson seemed to go out of his way to suggest in his recent pre-match that Hunt was in contention and always trains well.
If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.
And what have you been ‘told’ exactly, Mr Hearsay?
Am i missing something here, you'd think we'd let go the next Iniesta. 'The best passer of a ball', 'That's me done with Town', 'Scapegoat, 'Absolute joke'. He's done nothing to warrant this outpouring of grief from some on here, barely an assist and a couple of goals since he signed permanently, lightweight, not quick enough, no definable output, be lucky to play another game in the EFL. If only Khouri had been given the opportunities he's had, miles more potential in my opinion.
Alex Hunt is twice the player Kieran Green will ever be.
There's probably a couple of posters on here who are twice the player Green will ever be! Puts in the effort but he's so far from FL standard it's depressing.
More evidence that Artell is either clueless or an absolute bullshiter!
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Is he really any better than what we have? Just feels like fans are so unimpressed with our midfield that they think putting Hunt in there will suddenly make us better, but would he?
PH didn't play him, the Oldham manager didn't play him, and they are shoite. Maybe he just hasn't progressed how many thought he would.
Is there also case for thinking that because Artell is universally un-liked, a decision like letting Hunt go must be a daft one by a clueless manager.
I don't really have an opinion on any of those points, but just playing devils advocate. I'm now at the stage of just sitting back and seeing what transpires.
Is he really any better than what we have? Just feels like fans are so unimpressed with our midfield that they think putting Hunt in there will suddenly make us better, but would he?
PH didn't play him, the Oldham manager didn't play him, and they are shoite. Maybe he just hasn't progressed how many thought he would.
Is there also case for thinking that because Artell is universally un-liked, a decision like letting Hunt go must be a daft one by a clueless manager.
I don't really have an opinion on any of those points, but just playing devils advocate. I'm now at the stage of just sitting back and seeing what transpires.
Really hoping Thompson picks up the mantle now.
Thompson conspicuous by his absence from today's training video.
That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.
I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.
I think this is where I'm at too, I'm not a massive Hunt fan but he has looked much better than what I've seen of Andrews. From that low bar I would definitely have brought Hunt back in for a run of games. Bit of a bizarre decision to reduce our options in this key area.
Thompson conspicuous by his absence from today's training video.
Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….
I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.
I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.
I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.
Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….
I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.
I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.
I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.
No suggestion at all. Just something someone else observed on X.
So Green will get injured before the end of the season, Gav is a popular player but he has trouble passing the ball and without the ball just stops running. Andrews shouldn't be anywhere near the team and Thompson seems to have beamed up to the planet that Artell had been inhabiting.
Never mind if we get stuck we can always put Hunt or Khouri in .......... then again!
"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style
Hunt was /is the best of a bad bunch but i'm more concerned about artells statement just over a month ago "hunt is technically our most gifted player " to leaving him in stands something doesn't add up & i reckon artell is trying to show the door to hursts players too quickly after all 11th place finish & last 8 in fa cup is something this team will never see
So Green will get injured before the end of the season, Gav is a popular player but he has trouble passing the ball and without the ball just stops running. Andrews shouldn't be anywhere near the team and Thompson seems to have beamed up to the planet that Artell had been inhabiting.
Never mind if we get stuck we can always put Hunt or Khouri in .......... then again!
Maybe big D is actually a genius - he''s sent Amos ,Hunt and Khouri out on loan to get fitness & confidence up for a month to get them fired up for the relegation run in ; with the NL/NLN being a stark reminder to them of where they will return week in week out if they don't produce the goods .
I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.
Is he even a 1-in-3 player? I'm not convinced I've seen him play well that many times. He looked pretty good during the first part of his first loan spell when we were in the National League, but he's not followed that up very often since his return (though he's obviously not been in the team a lot.
If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.
Poor form to excrement stir like that. Either have conviction in what you say and put it out there or say nothing at all.
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Is Ainley likely to be back soon, I wonder? We know he had his illness but I seem to think the indications were that he might be back sooner than you would expect. Fitness would obviously be an issue but getting his experience back in the team for a couple of months could be helpful.
No major loss in my opinion, talented footballer but totally incapable of impacting a game unless the other team stand off and let you play. We need grafters/battlers in the situation we are in, not lightweights who get overrun but make the occasional nice pass.
Is Ainley likely to be back soon, I wonder? We know he had his illness but I seem to think the indications were that he might be back sooner than you would expect. Fitness would obviously be an issue but getting his experience back in the team for a couple of months could be helpful.
Possibly just a baseless guess.
Shaun said he’s back but still has a bit of chemo to finish. Good luck to the lad some things are more important than football.
"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style
No major loss in my opinion, talented footballer but totally incapable of impacting a game unless the other team stand off and let you play. We need grafters/battlers in the situation we are in, not lightweights who get overrun but make the occasional nice pass.
Don't disagree but sort of suprised
I loved his performance at MK Dons it was superb tbf .
But he failed to deliver consistently and gave the ball away in dangerous areas regularly when he did play .
The way Artell talked about him in his first few weeks , he seemed like he wanted to work with him badly - his type of player . He has binned him off after saying he will 'work with him to get better ' and then has signed Thompson who when asked if he can adapt his style of play he grunted something like 'yeah we will work on that ' he ain't changing a 30+ year old seasoned pro , and coach him into something like a 19 year old at Crewe. He seemingly is already injured or out of favour - the whole thing is a car crash.
He's effectively lost the 2 CM players who could potentially play 'his way ' Hunt , Conteh (I know he couldn't likely do anything about that ) . Artell seems a contradiction character to me . I'm still seething about last Saturday tbh , it's normally worn off by now .
There's clearly an issue with him. Still, I'll categorically say right now that I'll be surprised if we stay up if we have to play a midfield of Green, Clifton and Andrews for the rest of the season.
Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….
I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.
I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.
I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.
This is really concerning me too, heard the rumour on here that Artell had a bust up with Thompson at half time, he doesn't feature in the squad the next week and Humberside don't raise it like might be expected. Not heard hide nor hair of him since.
IF, and it's a big IF, Artell has had a bust up with Thompson, who was surely our best replacement for conteh, and isn't going to play him any more, 3 weeks into a 1 and a half year contract and the midst of a relegation battle then I think we may be doomed.
Poojah recently wrote a list of all the hallmarks of a manager/team that have completely lost it and noted we met every single one with the exception of a disciplinary issue. IF the above is the case then that will be a complete clean sweep, Bingo, on the list. If we did then I think we could lay claim to the basket case status that clubs normally have to be in in order to be relegated from league 2. But it would be an exceptionally quick coming apart at the seams.
This Thompson thing has concerned me for a little while but I didn't want to say anything. It could be that Hunt going is just Artell not fancying a player who massively flatters to deceive. A player who can control the ball well and pick a pass but all too often hangs on to it for too long in a dangerous area and loses it, or misplaces a simple pass, or who chooses a pass that he can't quite make. A terrible decision maker in other words, and physically weak to add to that. In which case I would accept it, I'd have tried him further up the pitch away from our own goal rather than some of the shite we've been playing but I can understand if that's why he's got rid. BUT if it's due to Artell having had a disagreement behind the scenes with him and so wanting him out, and combined with the Thompson situation, when our position is so dire and our midfield choices so poor then it really does worry me. And I was already flipping worried.
I just hope my suspicions about the Thompson situation are completely unfounded.
This is really concerning me too, heard the rumour on here that Artell had a bust up with Thompson at half time, he doesn't feature in the squad the next week and Humberside don't raise it like might be expected. Not heard hide nor hair of him since.
IF, and it's a big IF, Artell has had a bust up with Thompson, who was surely our best replacement for conteh, and isn't going to play him any more, 3 weeks into a 1 and a half year contract and the midst of a relegation battle then I think we may be doomed.
Poojah recently wrote a list of all the hallmarks of a manager/team that have completely lost it and noted we met every single one with the exception of a disciplinary issue. IF the above is the case then that will be a complete clean sweep, Bingo, on the list. If we did then I think we could lay claim to the basket case status that clubs normally have to be in in order to be relegated from league 2. But it would be an exceptionally quick coming apart at the seams.
This Thompson thing has concerned me for a little while but I didn't want to say anything. It could be that Hunt going is just Artell not fancying a player who massively flatters to deceive. A player who can control the ball well and pick a pass but all too often hangs on to it for too long in a dangerous area and loses it, or misplaces a simple pass, or who chooses a pass that he can't quite make. A terrible decision maker in other words, and physically weak to add to that. In which case I would accept it, I'd have tried him further up the pitch away from our own goal rather than some of the shite we've been playing but I can understand if that's why he's got rid. BUT if it's due to Artell having had a disagreement behind the scenes with him and so wanting him out, and combined with the Thompson situation, when our position is so dire and our midfield choices so poor then it really does worry me. And I was already flipping worried.
I just hope my suspicions about the Thompson situation are completely unfounded.
I guess we will find out at 2pm on Saturday or after the game .
Good to hear DA explanation about all the departures and illnesses or injuries
Also good to hear him explain what data is being examined and what it’s saying. Based on what DA is saying we could be on the brink of improving the points column
Good to hear DA explanation about all the departures and illnesses or injuries
Also good to hear him explain what data is being examined and what it’s saying. Based on what DA is saying we could be on the brink of improving the points column
Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .
Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .
Donny would be an obvious move - he’s from Barnsley.
I suspect Rose will want to leave in the summer regardless of what division we are in. And if he does, you can’t really blame him, can you?
I'm sure if he keeps his scoring tally going this season then we'll get offers, bigger money, closer to home perhaps and even more appealing now he's got less lads in his car share pool.
"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style
Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .
Yes, but he's also already made more starts than he did for Stevenage and scored twice the amount of goals.
Hunt lost possession in the middle of the park which led to the first goal, hopefully this loan will help him cut things like that out
Watched the highlights and he was also robbed earlier, doing his usual of dithering on the ball when surrounded instead of getting rid, right in the middle of the York half in the centre of the pitch. The opposition should have scored from that but didn't.
Perhaps it was another Carlisle away game for him, he's simply got to learn from these things. If ardley knew it was a must not lose game for him then perhaps no surprise he didn't want the risk of Hunt in there for the second half.
I'm sure if he keeps his scoring tally going this season then we'll get offers, bigger money, closer to home perhaps and even more appealing now he's got less lads in his car share pool.
Doubt it. He's 30 and is seen as a league two stalwart. Done great for us and must stay fit for the run in or I would be ever more worried than I am now.
Doubt it. He's 30 and is seen as a league two stalwart. Done great for us and must stay fit for the run in or I would be ever more worried than I am now.
If I were Steve Cotterill, I’d be advocating some firm challenges on Rose on Saturday afternoon. It’s a worry.
The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.
The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.
I think your point will only count for something if we stay up.
The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.
Stevenage fans loved him , all wanted him to stay . Pretty sure he got offered a new contract there aswell.
He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.
He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.
probs says a lot doesnt it...
They're really struggling as well, I see Amos was also benched for the last game
Amos started on the bench Tuesday night, came on at half-time and was hooked 10 mins later. Got to assume that’s an injury then, as it would have to be quite the performance to get dragged off after 10 mins.
Artell's explanation for Hunt going on loan was fair, get him to learn how to influence games somewhere else (No different really in us taking young lads on loan from teams further up the chain).
But not sure York, at the minute, is the best place to do that. They're desperate and I can imagine their need is more about someone getting stuck in than Hunt experimenting a bit with his play.
He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.
Same sort of thing that happened under Hurst and Artell. There is something we aren't seeing here. Managers just don't feel they can take the risk with him and feel the risk is too big.
Artell's explanation for Hunt going on loan was fair, get him to learn how to influence games somewhere else (No different really in us taking young lads on loan from teams further up the chain).
But not sure York, at the minute, is the best place to do that. They're desperate and I can imagine their need is more about someone getting stuck in than Hunt experimenting a bit with his play.
Echoes my thoughts.
"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style
Same sort of thing that happened under Hurst and Artell. There is something we aren't seeing here. Managers just don't feel they can take the risk with him and feel the risk is too big.
It's very easy to see imho, he does some good things, but that is massively outweighed by his weakness n propensity to give the ball away in dangerous areas. He causes more problems than he solves.
Well, if Hunt can't make an impression at York then his next home might well be Scunthorpe Utd.
The way its gone with Hunt is frustrating and annoying. The lad has obvious talent but doesn't seem to know how to harness it properly, kind of reminds me of Dom Vose to a certain degree, shame for the boy really.
Couldn’t have gone much worse for him this loan. Starts the first match, gives the ball away right in front of his bench & almost costs them a goal, does the same thing in the same position about 10 mins later and they do concede, dragged off at HT and the manager gets sacked. Benched for the next few matches, finally gets a start & they get pumped 6-1 in a game where the owners have reimbursed their fans because they were so bad.
Maybe he meant the team were in the Shambles, couple of decent pubs there...
Feels like serious make or break time for Hunt. I know Artell has said he wants him back here and richer for his experience at York, but the lad has to start making an impression at some point.
I've said many times now about the lad getting a fair crack at the whip and I do firmly believe he has some serious ability. But there's a common denominator throughout his lack of game time during his career, he's 24 in May yet he's failed to make 100 appearances as a professional, including EFL Trophy games.
Needs to get himself on those Messi human growth hormone injections in the summer.
I'm not sure that they can help you consistently pass the ball to a teammate. A bit chunkier, but still giving away possession in dangerous areas wouldn't make him a better player.
I'm sorry to say that I just don't think he's got what it takes. All the ability in the world in training counts for nothing if you can't deal with the pressures of a game.
I really thought this loan spell would do him the world of good, a Charles Vernam to Chorley sized shot in the arm. Yet it doesn't seem to have at all.
Crumb of hope, albeit from a younger and less experienced (in terms of games played) point of view, in Jack Lester going on loan to Doncaster having done little when given a chance here. Didn't impress at Donny yet came back with the bit absolutely between his teeth and looked a different animal altogether.
I say crumb, it's more like a that bit of a Rich Tea that's still in your hand after dunking in the mug of tea. It's had enough tea on it to soften and you know full well as soon as you open your finger and thumb it's more of a paste than anything else.
I'm not sure that they can help you consistently pass the ball to a teammate. A bit chunkier, but still giving away possession in dangerous areas wouldn't make him a better player.
I'm sorry to say that I just don't think he's got what it takes. All the ability in the world in training counts for nothing if you can't deal with the pressures of a game.
I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.
He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.
I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.
I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.
He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.
I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.
Totally agree with you on this, I wonder if his ears are now ringing with the comment Hurst gave after his Carlisle away debacle performance last year (very very reminiscent of his York debut). It was something like "players can make mistakes but they have to learn from them or else they won't be playing football here, and if they keep on not learning from them they won't be playing professional football at all because it's a very competitive business".
Totally agree with you on this, I wonder if his ears are now ringing with the comment Hurst gave after his Carlisle away debacle performance last year (very very reminiscent of his York debut). It was something like "players can make mistakes but they have to learn from them or else they won't be playing football here, and if they keep on not learning from them they won't be playing professional football at all because it's a very competitive business".
I remember that quote, and you're spot on. Hurst was on the money with quite a few things he said.
Especially when they were commenting how good a trainer he was. If he's working hard as SP said, and gifted. It's not that, then it must be something along those lines. I think the reason he's been hooked a few times early even though he hasn't done badly is because he's getting instructions and not following them repeatedly. Maybe it's unintentional, but if so, these shocks have to push him to take things on board.
I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.
He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.
I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.
Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.
I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.
Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.
I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.
Just watch Eisa, he did the same two or three times he really needs to work harder before he wins me over.
Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.
I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.
Clifton kept Stephen Wearne very quiet all night, so much so I forgot he was even playing... say what you want about Harry but defensively he's very very good. His ability to recover after getting beat is second to none. Made a very good tackle to put it out for a corner after he was beaten in the second half. Being part of a back 5 that's been the main reason for this upturn in fortune is not going AWOL.. it's standing up and being counted for when it mattered most. Especially keeping a clean sheet against the most inform team and probably the best footballing side in the division. To compare Clifton to Hunt is ludicrous, no matter how bad a game he's having you know you're getting 110% from Harry, technically he has his difficencies and that's why he plays for Grimsby Town... but he'll never ever shy away from the ball or a tackle and you can rely on him busting his balls for the football club every single time he pulls on the black and white opposed to a lad that's had a handful of good games for the club in 2/3 years.
I do wonder what has gone wrong with Hunt. He came to us on loan and could place the ball on an attacker's head from a corner or free kick. He had a good work rate and then went back to Sheffield.
After that, it was a downward trajectory for him. I feel sorry for the lad but unless he gets his mojo back pretty dam quick I think he can hang up his boots.
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Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.
Mappers called it right, wrong loan at the wrong time for Alex Hunt
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Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.
Young kid? He's 24 in a couple of months!
I'd love him to succeed, especially as we paid a fee and he's got another year on his deal, but other than a brief spell in the National League where he did well, he has shown very little in most of the games I've seen him play since his return.
Perhaps he can turn the corner, but he's not a young kid any longer. Glennon is six months older than Hunt. Tharme is a little over 1 year older than him. Nobody would call either of them a young kid.
I'd personally be surprised if Hunt is starting games after the summer, unless something changes. On the assumption that we survive this season and Artell rebuilds in the summer with a view to playing a more expansive game, he might be given another chance, but he's running out of time to prove himself.
I'd love him to succeed, especially as we paid a fee and he's got another year on his deal, but other than a brief spell in the National League where he did well, he has shown very little in most of the games I've seen him play since his return.
Perhaps he can turn the corner, but he's not a young kid any longer. Glennon is six months older than Hunt. Tharme is a little over 1 year older than him. Nobody would call either of them a young kid.
I'd personally be surprised if Hunt is starting games after the summer, unless something changes. On the assumption that we survive this season and Artell rebuilds in the summer with a view to playing a more expansive game, he might be given another chance, but he's running out of time to prove himself.
He'll surely be given a chance in pre season to earn a squad place. I personally doubt he will see out his contract with us though.
I think we all thought this season was pivotal for him and it's not happened for him, so I think the odds are now strongly against it working out here.
Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.
Mappers called it right, wrong loan at the wrong time for Alex Hunt
I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that. The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.
We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York. Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.
But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this
I always wanted to see Khouri, Conteh and Hunt as a combination and for obvious reasons it never did/will happen but I felt it could have been an exciting trio in midfield in terms of technical capability and balance .
Whether Hunt's race is run here , time will tell - Artell seems a straight shooter so assuming he reverts to a more passing based game next time out and with what he's said , Hunt might well get one last chance in pre-season to impress . I fear for him having a career at all in the game if it doesn't work out as the lower you get the more physical and less footballing it is in general .
A player with ability and potential but at 24 we've not seen enough of either.Hes a player on form you'd build a side around and carry via two yard dogs.Sadly he has never warranted such backing Hopefully he is told last chance saloon ups his game and gets us all off our seats
I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that. The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.
We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York. Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.
But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this
Illustrate to me where I said you couldn't have an opinion?
"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style
I always wanted to see Khouri, Conteh and Hunt as a combination and for obvious reasons it never did/will happen but I felt it could have been an exciting trio in midfield in terms of technical capability and balance .
Whether Hunt's race is run here , time will tell - Artell seems a straight shooter so assuming he reverts to a more passing based game next time out and with what he's said , Hunt might well get one last chance in pre-season to impress . I fear for him having a career at all in the game if it doesn't work out as the lower you get the more physical and less footballing it is in general .
I haven’t seen Khouri play in so long now, but I hope he gets fit as I feel he has a bright future here.
I think Hunt has potential but trying to get a tune out of him is a different matter. I've heard he looks quality in training but as soon as he gets infront of a crowd it's like he loses confidence and becomes half a player Unfortunately if DA doesn't give him another chance after his loan I can see the lad literally disappearing down the football pyramid.
It's a poor choice of club to loan him to for me. Not the first time either, Darren Moore recalled him back to Wednesday from us, did little with him then he ended up at a very weak relegation -bound Oldham. His game is all about finding that little bit of space and building attacks, can't see how that will work in a pretty awful and confidence shot York side.
I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that. The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.
We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York. Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.
But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this
It's probably the saddest part of football most of us don't want to dwell on, and its that 0.012 % of academy youngsters make it to pro. (according to Michael Calvin, author of the book "No Hunger in Paradise: The Players. The Journey. The Dream,") Alex might be just hanging in as he travels down the scale, I mean Town are in 4th tier so the bottom is not that far below us. Shame but there it is.
Hunt made a slow start to his loan but has been improving each game. Has that bit of quality. Maybe needs to impose himself that bit more, but promising signs.
Danny Amos has been playing. Looks ok but nowt special. He's our only natural LB. Good enough but only just.
The Shop is still plodding on. He seems to have lost all ability to control the ball but is still a useful late sub as a battering ram.
Hunt made a slow start to his loan but has been improving each game. Has that bit of quality. Maybe needs to impose himself that bit more, but promising signs.
Danny Amos has been playing. Looks ok but nowt special. He's our only natural LB. Good enough but only just.
The Shop is still plodding on. He seems to have lost all ability to control the ball but is still a useful late sub as a battering ram.
He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.
He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.
When Lenny first came to us, a Bury supporting friend told me that his second touch was always a sliding tackle because his first touch was shite. Nothing's changed but fair play to him, he's made career from it.
He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.
Just seen the result, huge win that, in a way surprised Neal Ardley got sacked, would have thought he would turn it around.
Getting better as he’s settled, so a York supporting friend tells me. Had a shocking debut then didn’t get a start after Ardley was sacked. Started the last three which they’ve won, including wins against two of the top three.
You tend to see clubs loan players out at the beginning of the season (season long loan) but can recall them in January if the added it to the deal etc.
Opinions are funny really, I think Thompson is comfortably our best midfielder and has struggled slightly due to the guff alongside him. Perhaps I being a tad generous with that assessment
Opinions are funny really, I think Thompson is comfortably our best midfielder and has struggled slightly due to the guff alongside him. Perhaps I being a tad generous with that assessment
Thompson is exactly the player we needed for a battle - Alex isn’t. That said, our midfield is woefully lacking in quality.
Most of our midfielders have made errors that have resulted in goals this season. Some have been called out to a greater extent than others.
Yes, we give the ball away in midfield, and so many teams seem to have players with the ability to capitalise on these errors and find the net. We on the other hand can't be relied upon to finish a sitter more often than not.
It's clear that, whether we manage to stay up or not, our squad just isn't good enough. We don't seem to have players that can manage the basics that so many other teams seem well capable of.
Whatever happens in the next month we need a serious overhaul in the summer. Tinkering with this squad isn't going to get us very far at all.
I kind of see why there is the discussion about Thompson and clearly the mistake the other day was shite but from what I have seen he has much more about him than most of the others, especially the midfielders. I've lost count of the times this season that I have been thinking/shouting "where the fock is the midfielder".
Exactly my point, that is why I don't go overboard about a new player or manager like some do, and some now seem to think Johnson is the answer to our midfield problems. I have yet to be convinced, he may well turn out to be a very good signing but at the moment he seems just as liable to make a member up as the rest of them.
Exactly my point, that is why I don't go overboard about a new player or manager like some do, and some now seem to think Johnson is the answer to our midfield problems. I have yet to be convinced, he may well turn out to be a very good signing but at the moment he seems just as liable to make a member up as the rest of them.
Thompson is being asked to do a job he's never done before , when we revert to trying to play the ball in to him , in the middle of the park it doesn't end well . He's a busy ,tenacious midfield player and a good one at that - a mainstay in the Wycombe promotion team that made it to the Champ and one Cheltenham fans were slightly upset they let go .
Artell's comment when he signed was something along the lines of ' he's not used to being a passing midfielder but I will coach that into him , we will change that' . I am not sure you can 'change' a 30+ senior pro to the degree he maybe feels he can .
It's clear to me at least we have the players to survive quite comfortably when we play to our strengths , but when we try to implement any sort of 'Artell ball' style it quickly goes pear , it's certainly too early in the piece in my mind for that . Hopefully today we revert back to standard grinding/league 2 style and pull a result out because if we start faffing around with the ball it's clearly something we are not capable of and will just lose again .
Thompson is being asked to do a job he's never done before , when we revert to trying to play the ball in to him , in the middle of the park it doesn't end well . He's a busy ,tenacious midfield player and a good one at that - a mainstay in the Wycombe promotion team that made it to the Champ and one Cheltenham fans were slightly upset they let go .
Technically, he's actually pretty good with the ball at his feet. His problem is that he often wins the ball but then holds onto it much too long so any impetus is lost and it allows the opposition to tackle back so he often loses it again!
I suppose the fact that our midfielders and forwards aren't exactly showing for the ball much of the time, but if he kept it simple, he'd be more effective than he has already been.
Looking at that York highlights clip, accepting that it's very difficult to make a serious assessment on it, looks like York have paired Hunt in midfield with a bit of a terrier type who hustles and wins back possession, freeing Hunt up to be more creative. On paper he might work well with Thompson.
Artell did sent Hunt out on loan with the remit of learning how to stamp his authority on games. Again, difficult to tell on highlights, but it does look like he's still hiding a little bit from the play. I don't know if he's given the freedom to influence play at York but I'd imagine Artell wants to see him demanding the ball in dangerous positions and looking to create at every opportunity.
Also, there's no flipping way we can drop to those depths again. That standard is awful. I was struggling to stay engaged for less than 10 minutes of that. Not sure I can do a full season (again).
Looking at that York highlights clip, accepting that it's very difficult to make a serious assessment on it, looks like York have paired Hunt in midfield with a bit of a terrier type who hustles and wins back possession, freeing Hunt up to be more creative. On paper he might work well with Thompson.
Artell did sent Hunt out on loan with the remit of learning how to stamp his authority on games. Again, difficult to tell on highlights, but it does look like he's still hiding a little bit from the play. I don't know if he's given the freedom to influence play at York but I'd imagine Artell wants to see him demanding the ball in dangerous positions and looking to create at every opportunity.
I think he'll be hoping he learns to NOT be demanding it/losing it in dangerous positions, but to go and be creative in places it hurts the opposition.
Alex Hunt got MOM yesterday for York, not sure if BBC have got it wrong but they showed the formation with Hunt player as a centre back and Danny Amos in midfield
York fans on twitter seem to want him signed, not sure we’ve missed him but will be interesting to see how this one plays out at the end of the season
I wouldn’t be against that, we know there’s a player in there and maybe with the right players around him - like Thompson - it could bring a more consistent, high performing player
Alex Hunt got MOM yesterday for York, not sure if BBC have got it wrong but they showed the formation with Hunt player as a centre back and Danny Amos in midfield
York fans on twitter seem to want him signed, not sure we’ve missed him but will be interesting to see how this one plays out at the end of the season
The BBC just randomly guess the formations in the NL - they regularly had Luke Waterfall playing up front for us! The BBC’s coverage of non league is abysmal.
A couple of lads I work with support York and cannot believe he’s playing at that level, there’s obviously a player in there and we’d be mad not to give him a pre season here to prove it.
Providing we stay up, I suspect Artell will give Hunt a chance to prove himself during pre-season. Due to the players we have available this season, we've ended up with a more pragmatic and direct approach and Hunt just wasn't suited to that. I don't think this will continue next season.
Hunt has a lot to do to convince me, but I expect I'll see him given another chance yet.
At least if he doesn't cut it here, he's put in some very good performances at York and it'll give the lad confidence that he can revive his career at the level below. They are also loaded so we'd probably get a nice fee for him.
York fans love him - begging him to sign would be interesting to see if they bid anything reasonable whether we let him go , or will Artell be true to his word and give him another chance ?
Can’t see it myself after being mediocre at best. He’s probably found his level in the National League.
He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.
He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.
A lot will probably depend on who is in his ear. Agent ? Parent ? Friend ?
He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.
Don’t think there’s anything “wrong” as such he just hasn’t fulfilled his potential yet, whether he does or not remains to be seen.
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It’s great he’s doing so well, but it’s three levels below where we aspire to be and he’s simply not good enough if we do actually want to get there. Shame and all that but hey.
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It's good he's doing well in the conference, and for the second time. The question is if he can up his level so he can do that consistently at L2 level.
I think having conference level players is part of the reason we're in the mess we're in. Though we have seen that players can turn it around, and I hope he does. He's got a lot of work ahead of us, and if he succeeds, we all win.
He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.
Ok, let’s say I give you those three matches. What about the tens and tens of other poor ones? A one good game every 15 matches is not enough to be an EFL player.
He’s a player with good technique who can pick a pass. The problem is that when he's pressed and under pressure in matches he doesn’t cut the mustard.
There is a term for a player that looks the part in training but can’t replicate it in matches - however, I can’t for the life of me remember what it’s called.
He reminds me a lot of James Berrett who was another one that supposedly performed well in training. I don’t see any compelling reason to give him another go. We had the same discussion ahead of this season and it’s the same old story.
Ok, let’s say I give you those three matches. What about the tens and tens of other poor ones? A one good game every 15 matches is not enough to be an EFL player.
He’s a player with good technique who can pick a pass. The problem is that when he's pressed and under pressure in matches he doesn’t cut the mustard.
There is a term for a player that looks the part in training but can’t replicate it in matches - however, I can’t for the life of me remember what it’s called.
He reminds me a lot of James Berrett who was another one that supposedly performed well in training. I don’t see any compelling reason to give him another go. We had the same discussion ahead of this season and it’s the same old story.
He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.
He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.
Carlisle fans would argue Berrett was fantastic for them at League 1 level. The problem was that he was really poor for us and that despite us persevering he was just awful.
The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and hoping for different results. We’ve not seen anything like a consistent spell of playing well from Hunt other than the first couple of months of his loan spell when we were in the National League.
I’m yet to hear a compelling argument as to why it would be any different if we were to try him again. Much better to move him on and use his wages/fee to strengthen IMO.
He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.
Berrett, had to look him up. Played 51 games for Town and I can't remember the bloke, was he that bad or is it my age.
In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions. Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them. GOD
Berrett, had to look him up. Played 51 games for Town and I can't remember the bloke, was he that bad or is it my age.
Bang average. A shirt filler.
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I don't think Hunt understood his role in the team when Artell arrived.
Those first few games he was probably playing his natural game in the centre of midfield with little instruction and a bit of freedom.
Then, as Artell began imposing his style, Hunt became a bit more of a passenger.
That style, in theory, should've suited Hunt, but following that win at Salford I saw a Town team full of players looking rather bemused by what they should be doing.
Clearly, after the Doncaster defeat, Artell changed things up and made us a bit more robust, which was a style that definitely wouldn't suit a player like Hunt, and so it made sense, I suppose, to let him find game time elsewhere.
If everything works out perfectly, Hunt returns in the summer having gained confidence and hits the ground running in pre-season, effectively feeling like a new signing.
Following today's win at Crewe, which makes it just three defeats in 12, it suggests the players are becoming a little clearer with the system they're expected to play.
If Hunt is still wanted and learns to play in that system, he could yet prove to be a decent asset for us next season.
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He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.
I hear that, but then I remember Nathan Jones saying that wayne/jason????? was the best technical player in the Luton squad. Joined us, totally ineffectual and ended up at somewhere like Gateshead. He was so anonymous I can't even remember his name!
I hear that, but then I remember Nathan Jones saying that wayne/jason????? was the best technical player in the Luton squad. Joined us, totally ineffectual and ended up at somewhere like Gateshead. He was so anonymous I can't even remember his name!
Hunt was deployed to York to get match sharpness and come back, hopefully a better player and stake a claim for a shirt. He's done that. This board is awfully cynical, some posters seemed to be happy when his early games were not great and he was subbed, a lot of 'tood you so' claims. Now he's getting glowing reviews it's 'right, sell him then'.
He's knuckled down, earnt praise and shown how he can be the player that Artell thinks he is. The Town team he featured in was based around a slow, switched off midfield. He'd have had a field day v Crewe. Unfair to demand consistency from Hunt when the whole team should be delivering just that, as they did yesterday against Crewe.
Hunt was deployed to York to get match sharpness and come back, hopefully a better player and stake a claim for a shirt. He's done that. This board is awfully cynical, some posters seemed to be happy when his early games were not great and he was subbed, a lot of 'tood you so' claims. Now he's getting glowing reviews it's 'right, sell him then'.
He's knuckled down, earnt praise and shown how he can be the player that Artell thinks he is. The Town team he featured in was based around a slow, switched off midfield. He'd have had a field day v Crewe. Unfair to demand consistency from Hunt when the whole team should be delivering just that, as they did yesterday against Crewe.
To be fair, he did have a field day against Crewe at home. Best we’ve played at home all season.
Interestingly, as York’s season finishes next Saturday, he will be available for our last game!
It wouldn't shock me to see Hunt come back and be excellent alongside Thompson. Let's not forget he was in a midfield alongside Conteh who was in his first season of league football. Conteh is not Curtis, on the ball Conteh is excellent. Off the ball it's night and day between the two, Curtis offers us a lot more protection and helps his midfielders out massively. A proper old school midfield general that we've been craving really since Dis left.
How is hunt doing now that he has settled. What is the general concensus ?
I suppose its possible if it doesn't work out here next season he could end up back af York if he enjoys it there.
I would suspect like others that Amos will likely be a permanent signing for you
Everyone likes him. First couple of games were iffy but since then he's been great. I wasnt sure about Amos but given how hard it is to find LB's Id keep him.
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