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Theimperialcoroner
February 15, 2024, 5:28pm

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Quoted from Gaffer58
Off the top of my head Mansfield have spent loads over the last few years, in fact I think it’s the owners wife who’s in charge, so yes they’re looking good at the moment, and if they get promotion then it’s spend on another level in league 1, and I don’t believe there attendances are larger then ours.


Stockport too. Their wealthy owner pumps loads in I’d imagine without checking they are at similar levels to Wrexham.


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4million to get to mid table in L2. Crazy. What is the point?

This kind of thing just distorts the division. So many clubs are vanity projects for the super rich these days that there is little chance of a club trying to manage its finances sensibly being able to compete.

It’s worse the higher up the leagues you go. I think I read that more than half of the clubs have been in admin at one time or another, some several times. But they never learn. Even teams in the prem with the fantastic amounts of cash that they get thrown at them manage to lose vast fortunes.

It’s why the days of Town being a force in the Championship as we were in the eighties and nineties are well and truly gone. Unless one of us wins the euro lottery.
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I agree with salary cap but I seem to remember when it was proposed in the National League there was much hand wringing on here. We're well down the table in this division wage bill wise but were quite high up in the NL. Most fans will want whatever favours their club.


Not going to happen. The clubs voted for it, then the ones that didn't want a cap challenged in court and it got ruled illegal. A football regulator won't be able to change the law. The only way would be to enforce the ffp or something like that which caps expenditure rather than individual payments. Technically already exists but being able to opt out is obscene
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If they have harsher punishments for administration, it may at least punish teams not living within their means. If they overtake us, they'll be back down before they know it. While I don't like fans getting punished, it feels like we're getting punished for supporting a sustainable football club.
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Not going to happen. The clubs voted for it, then the ones that didn't want a cap challenged in court and it got ruled illegal. A football regulator won't be able to change the law. The only way would be to enforce the ffp or something like that which caps expenditure rather than individual payments. Technically already exists but being able to opt out is obscene


Not a problem with owners putting money into clubs and spending freely, registering as debt against the club is only going one way and the FA wonder why clubs are going pot.
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Quoted from RonMariner

It’s why the days of Town being a force in the Championship as we were in the eighties and nineties are well and truly gone. Unless one of us wins the euro lottery.


If I win the euro lottery, I'll be rebuilding the Winter Gardens first and then we'll see what's left over for Town
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Quoted from Theimperialcoroner


Stockport too. Their wealthy owner pumps loads in I’d imagine without checking they are at similar levels to Wrexham.


Stockport lost 70k every week trying to get out of the conference, although it DID work.

We, of course, did it on a relative shoestring, but now it’s showing as (according to some figures I was shown today) we have a bottom 5 budget in this division.

It’s all conjecture, but probably not far off.

Crawley, though, are a madcap football club. I wish we were already safe like them, however….
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Stockport lost 70k every week trying to get out of the conference, although it DID work.

We, of course, did it on a relative shoestring, but now it’s showing as (according to some figures I was shown today) we have a bottom 5 budget in this division.

It’s all conjecture, but probably not far off.

Crawley, though, are a madcap football club. I wish we were already safe like them, however….


Those figures off some random twitter account you mean? Or was it from a source with some credibility like Kieran Maguire?
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Those figures off some random twitter account you mean? Or was it from a source with some credibility like Kieran Maguire?


Definitely not Maguire, I’ll admit that, but I was one of those early season that was pretty sure there were LOTS of big spenders this season and we’d finish bottom half as we couldn’t compete. I didn’t quite foresee THIS, though.

You’re right in that the numbers could be nonsense, and I very much doubt that ANYONE has access to accurate figures for all 24 teams’ wages, but if we’re run sustainably, we’re small fry in this division this year, no doubt.
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Quoted from Heisenberg


Stockport lost 70k every week trying to get out of the conference, although it DID work.

We, of course, did it on a relative shoestring, but now it’s showing as (according to some figures I was shown today) we have a bottom 5 budget in this division.

It’s all conjecture, but probably not far off.

Crawley, though, are a madcap football club. I wish we were already safe like them, however….


It can't be bottom 5. We're definitely spending more than when Fenty was in charge and we were 11th highest spenders in Jolley's season. I know there are more big spenders than usual, but not that many more.
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