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ska face
February 8, 2024, 4:59pm

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Another shít idea from the clowns that brought you VAR -

https://archive.is/dZu9h
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Just apply the current rules correctly and there is no need for change. Start of the season yellow cards aplenty for time wasting now more or less ignored by most refs.
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"The new protocol announced on Friday will limit the new card to fouls that prevent a promising attack plus dissent, as well as confirming a player should be shown a red card if they receive two blue cards during a match or a combination of yellow and blue."

WTF? So, two cards leads to a red? Sounds familiar, somehow.

If they want to stop dissent and cynical fouls, just make an obvious cynical foul a red card. The ones where the defenders shamelessly hack down an opponent on the halfway line or try to pull the shirt off their back.

If a player wants to swear at a referee, they should already be off, in any case.
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The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent

Wow, some teams would be down to 5 or 6 players
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If they want to stop dissent and cynical fouls, just make an obvious cynical foul a red card. The ones where the defenders shamelessly hack down an opponent on the halfway line or try to pull the shirt off their back..


They’re the best kind of fouls, shows a good level of awareness in a player. Plus you only see probably one or two of those a season in reality. You’re now going to have a situation where every foul on the break is over scrutinised - would a defender have got back, how far from the goal was he, does it make a difference it it’s Kieran Green breaking or a speed demon? Just more subjective fart-arsing about.

I give it a week before Gary Neville and Howard Webb are analysing the dictionary definition of the word “cynical”.  

If you’re going to bring it it, use it for divers. Something that actually DOES need eradicating.
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Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56
Just apply the current rules correctly and there is no need for change. Start of the season yellow cards aplenty for time wasting now more or less ignored by most refs.


Quite right, like the goalie only holding the ball for 6 secs. Has anyone seen a goalie pulled up for it?
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Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56
Just apply the current rules correctly and there is no need for change. Start of the season yellow cards aplenty for time wasting now more or less ignored by most refs.


Quite right, like the goalie only holding the ball for 6 secs. Has anyone seen a goalie pulled up for it?
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They’re the best kind of fouls, shows a good level of awareness in a player. Plus you only see probably one or two of those a season in reality. You’re now going to have a situation where every foul on the break is over scrutinised - would a defender have got back, how far from the goal was he, does it make a difference it it’s Kieran Green breaking or a speed demon? Just more subjective fart-arsing about.

I give it a week before Gary Neville and Howard Webb are analysing the dictionary definition of the word “cynical”.  

If you’re going to bring it it, use it for divers. Something that actually DOES need eradicating.


Yeah I agree with you.
Saying that I think the red for the Bournemouth player at the weekend was the right decision.

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They’re the best kind of fouls, shows a good level of awareness in a player.[quote]

No, it's the worst kind of foul. Every fan should want to see attacking play with creativity and positivity. Cynically hacking or pulling somebody down because they've beaten you or you've been caught out of position is terrible for the game. Players know they can get away with one every game so do it anyway. A 'blue card' sin-binning after one of these fouls will see one team trying to shut up shop for ten minutes. Teams will spend more time practising defending with ten men because being a player down will become commonplace. Referees will get loads and loads of the decisions wrong as well.

I only advocate a straight red for the clearest of cynical fouls. This cynicism is something I've always hated to see in the modern game and it shouldn't be accepted because it ruins games.
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I'm personally in favour of this. A yellow card is free, costs nothing and can keep a poor team in a match, or scraping out a result. Disrupting play becomes a strategy that we've seen all too much against us until recently with the majestic Crocombe.

That Italy final a few years ago screwed us, because of a rugby tackle on Saka which got a yellow. If players go off for 10 mins, they think twice.

Now defenders can think, do I take the hit and hope our team can weather 10 minutes, and that isn't as clear cut.

I'm surprised more aren't in favour considering those matches against rugby teams end up being really miserable and dull games.
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