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dicko995
December 26, 2023, 11:54am

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1Cartwright
2Efete
5Rodgers
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14Gnahoua
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32Rose

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December 26, 2023, 12:03pm
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Sensible changes
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Sensible changes


Yeah a nice bit of bite in midfield from the off
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December 26, 2023, 12:06pm
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Clifton surely can't have another stinker?
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Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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December 26, 2023, 12:17pm
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Personally I'd have played Hunt instead of Green today and Green instead of Hunt against Harrogate - given Mansfield are more of a footballing team than Harrogate.
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Craig Disley Co commentator on Radio Humberside
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123614
December 26, 2023, 12:24pm
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Anyone else got no sound on the live stream?
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December 26, 2023, 12:25pm
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Quoted from 123614
Anyone else got no sound on the live stream?


Yep me and a few others!
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December 26, 2023, 12:25pm
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Yes me too
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December 26, 2023, 12:26pm

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Quoted from 123614
Anyone else got no sound on the live stream?

Yes  



If the football is bad you can always watch the gulls.
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December 26, 2023, 12:26pm
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Pitch look good 👍
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December 26, 2023, 12:26pm
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Yes dude. No sound for me.
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123614
December 26, 2023, 12:28pm
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Thanks guys
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MaccasBoots
December 26, 2023, 12:32pm
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Yep no audio for me either
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December 26, 2023, 12:33pm
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No audio here . Decent crowd in though
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December 26, 2023, 12:34pm
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Quoted from 123614
Anyone else got no sound on the live stream?


I ain't.  
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Shot on target
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December 26, 2023, 12:35pm
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Listening to commentary on Radio Humberside Sport, but it seems to be a minute behind the play.
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December 26, 2023, 12:35pm
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No sound here either wtf.
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No audio here . Decent crowd in though


Thee used to be a help button with the old ifollow.  This is shocking.  If it was just the crowd that would be OK.  Who's commentating?
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December 26, 2023, 12:36pm
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No sound for me.
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December 26, 2023, 12:37pm
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Ditto no sound
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December 26, 2023, 12:39pm
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Quoted from Mayaman


Thee used to be a help button with the old ifollow.  This is shocking.  If it was just the crowd that would be OK.  Who's commentating?


JT and Craig Disley

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December 26, 2023, 12:41pm
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Mansfield stream has sound, Towns stream nothing  
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December 26, 2023, 12:42pm
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No sound not brilliant Hullberside not the first time
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December 26, 2023, 12:43pm
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I'm sure every ref in this league had a meeting and said Danny Rose is getting zero decisions unless he's literally punched in the face in front of the ref. Barely been given a foul all season because he dived a couple of times in his first game of the season.
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December 26, 2023, 12:43pm
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My biggest frustration with Rose is sometimes he seems more focused on winning a foul off the centre half rather than actually playing the ball.
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December 26, 2023, 12:43pm
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Crowd very quiet  
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Who do we contact about the sound this is stupid
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December 26, 2023, 12:48pm
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Their number 14 is a big unit, going to be dangerous at set pieces.
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Mansfield stream has sound, Towns stream nothing  


Mansfield isn't working for me..
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December 26, 2023, 12:48pm
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Crowd very quiet  


Very quiet here as there is no frigging sound.

I hope someone from the club is kicking some arses at the streaming company.
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December 26, 2023, 12:49pm
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FFS, now no picture!
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Stream down for me now.


Up The Mariners!
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December 26, 2023, 12:50pm
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Ahh, it's back with sound.
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December 26, 2023, 12:51pm
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Who do we contact about the sound this is stupid


I messaged RH.  Back on now.  
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Still have no idea what Kieran Green offers as a footballer... his first touch is always a tackle
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December 26, 2023, 12:51pm
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Dammit. 1-0


                                   "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its students."  ..Hector Berlioz, 1856.
                                   “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"  ...Voltaire, 1694-1778

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Sound and picture back!
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Oh dear


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD
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December 26, 2023, 12:52pm
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Well thats been coming all game. Rodgers tapped it past Cartwright trying to block the effort


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

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Picture went black now back on with sound, now I wish it had stayed black😔
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December 26, 2023, 12:52pm

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Can't say it wasn't coming unfortunately.

Mansfield 1-0 Town.


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Another soft goal.  What was Rodgers doing?
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Clifton gives the ball away again resulting in another soft goal.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Deflected powder puff shot. Just our luck
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Absolutely crap defending.
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Fuc*ing hell efete


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Fortunately my stream has started buffering.


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Great chance on goal then the ball was passed to Clifton, wrong choice of 4 players in the box  
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Had to stick the Mansfield stream on its got sound and commentary the Grimsby one hasn't got any on
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Had to stick the Mansfield stream on its got sound and commentary the Grimsby one hasn't got any on
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Fuc*ing hell efete


Not Efete's fault, no idea why Clifton didn't just hit that first time
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Pyke down!

Great!


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Can’t wait for Niall Maher to intercourse off at the end of the year been an absolute liability all season. Absolutely flipping useless.
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This is actually quite worrying that the players have stopped running through walls already .
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f*ck sake our decision making in the final third is shocking at times. 2 players going for the same ball
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Not Efete's fault, no idea why Clifton didn't just hit that first time


The worst placed out of the others with him


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Can’t wait for Niall Maher to intercourse off at the end of the year been an absolute liability all season. Absolutely flipping useless.


Don't say that on praise and grumble Maher mam will kick off
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Pyke down!

Great!


Now off and staying off.
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This is actually quite worrying that the players have stopped running through walls already .


You're joking right? They've scored once but are comfortably the best team we've played this season. We should be level with the chances we've had.
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Don't say that on praise and grumble Maher mam will kick off


I've not seen his mum pipe up for a few weeks now

She was normally very quick to criticise other players!
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Absolutely crap defending.


Once more a midfielder coughs up possession and another midfielder stands and watches. It was just a repeat of Saturday's second goal.
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Quoted from Freemoash88


Don't say that on praise and grumble Maher mam will kick off


He’s like Green & Holohan, good National League players


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Quoted from Freemoash88


Don't say that on praise and grumble Maher mam will kick off


Amazing how we can stick up for players because they are good people. They haven’t kept a clean sheet in over 17 games absolutely shocking and should be punished for it. Got no pace, not the strongest and weak as urine bet strikers absolutely love when they coming up against us.
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Mansfield are four years into their journey and play the footy we yearn for, our midfield only has Conteh capable of controlling and passing the ball, Clifton and Green simply not good enough and we just have to move the ball around much quicker.
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He’s like Green & Holohan, good National League players


Unpopular but very fair comment.
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December 26, 2023, 1:03pm
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When you look at the players playing against us, they appear to be better quality than most of ours.  Our dealings in the January window will be interesting.
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Mansfield aren’t pressing us like Harrogate, we will have chances today.
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When we get it in the final third we look dangerous, same as against Harrogate. The problem is getting it there..
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Deserved a goal that
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Brilliant spell from town this

The change has given us something of a kick up the ar5e


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Lovely feet from Arthur.  Just run out of space.
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Decision making from both of centre halfs is flipping terrible...
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How did PH leave us with this defence ?
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We had possession and have them under pressure and Maher decides to go back to his keeper with no Mansfield player in his half which allows them to push up and win the ball. A moment before he ran out with the ball and beat his man I don't know why he makes these poor decisions after getting it right.
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We had possession and have them under pressure and Maher decides to go back to his keeper with no Mansfield player in his half which allows them to push up and win the ball. A moment before he ran out with the ball and beat his man I don't know why he makes these poor decisions after getting it right.


That then proceeds with Harvey Rodgers passing the ball straight to a mansfield player  
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Can’t wait for Niall Maher to intercourse off at the end of the year been an absolute liability all season. Absolutely flipping useless.


He can take Rodgers with him, he is absolutely dog excrement.
I would rather have  Mullarkey and Waterfall as our CBs.
We are never keeping a clean sheet with Rodgers and Maher.


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Arthur Gnahoua is a class act, the way he keeps the ball so close to him and uses is what we need out of our midfielders.  
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Cartwright doing his best to keep it at only 1 today. He's made some great reaction saves


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The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

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How did PH leave us with this defence ?


FFS, why do people keep going on about PH, he is long gone, it's up to the present team and management to get on with the job and sort things out,

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Another good chance to break ruined by a Clifton terrible touch.... christ
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What is wrong with Harry?
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You're joking right? They've scored once but are comfortably the best team we've played this season. We should be level with the chances we've had.


Watching this it wouldn't matter who we were playing, apart from a couple of minutes we have looked crap especially defensively.
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Clifton isn't the player he was.
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Players like Clifton Mayer Rodgers will get us relegated
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Clifton FFS!!!


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Love him, but Clifton is just not playing like a professional footballer this season.
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Clifton isn't the player he was.


Jesus Christ. I think I've cursed him even more.
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That was feckin useless by harry again.so frustrating
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You can red cross this as much as you liked but Efete is never a league level footballer.


The Future is Black & White.
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What is going on with Clifton looks dire at the min. I still think we've got a goal in us its just our defending its dreadful
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Clifton needs a spell out of the team, there is a player there but needs a spell out to reset.
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You can red cross this as much as you liked but Efete is never a league level footballer.


Agreed
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Great movement


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Watching this it wouldn't matter who we were playing, apart from a couple of minutes we have looked crap especially defensively.


We're playing a team at home who have beaten pretty much everyone and we haven't won away. They're 4 year into the plan with million pound players in the squad. We are 1 month in and probably should be level at least after hitting the post, the bar and also forcing Pym into 3/4 good saves. It's not been a terrible performance because you can quite clearly see what we're trying to do rather than just an aimless punt and you can see what needs improving. Like you said the defence is a huge concern for the way Artell wants to play, two out of the three central midfielders are also probably not good enough either and yet we're giving the team most of this forum has said is the best team we've seen play this year a real game.  
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Absolute urine take. 2-0
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How haven't we scored yet we've had 3 or 4 decent chances
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We are the softest touch in football. Teams have to do nothing to beat us
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Game over, was it both Effete & Conteh backing off?  

The amount of chances we’ve created suggests the set up is ok but individual slackness is losing us this game.

Keeper time wastes we give them a goal as a reward 🙄


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Gave him a free shot
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5 players in front of him then when he was about to shoot and not one ran towards him
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Town asleep after their goalkeeper took a whole minute of not taking a goal kick and they got a shot on goal with no challenge.
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urine poor defending. Why are we just backing off from the man with the ball. Either Efefe or Conteh should be charging that down before he gets that shot


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Game over. They can finish. We can't.
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Oh ffs
2 down and we realy should be winning this game.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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FFS left to run
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You can red cross this as much as you liked but Efete is never a league level footballer.


Just watch him for their second in flipping la la land again.

Might as well be sat on our settee.
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Ive had enough of Rodgers, and I’ve had enough of Clifton
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Game over - we've had a ton of chances to break/create/score, and as usual we haven't taken them because we can't get the basics right
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So soft in that area....backed off so far invited the shot


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Clifton, Rodgers and Efete are flipping SHITE


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Difference in quality, there central midfielders can move the ball and score worldies.. ours stand on it as they break forward.
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capitulated.
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I think we're going to get into a relegation battle. We look absolutely shite
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How many saves has Cartwright made. MOH
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Unbelievable.. flipping joke of a team. Let’s just keep backing them thought because they are triers.. I can’t wait till the end of the year somehow we’ve managed to get worse than we was last year even when we was excrement on quality.
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Could be famous last words from Artell regarding relegation.


Up The Mariners!
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DA said in his post match v Harrogate that were not going down, if things keep on like this we will be down there come the end of the season.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
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Useless from Conte for the second goal
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Feel sorry for the travelling Town fans, game over already.

The comeback kings are no more.


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We're playing a team at home who have beaten pretty much everyone and we haven't won away. They're 4 year into the plan with million pound players in the squad. We are 1 month in and probably should be level at least after hitting the post, the bar and also forcing Pym into 3/4 good saves. It's not been a terrible performance because you can quite clearly see what we're trying to do rather than just an aimless punt and you can see what needs improving. Like you said the defence is a huge concern for the way Artell wants to play, two out of the three central midfielders are also probably not good enough either and yet we're giving the team most of this forum has said is the best team we've seen play this year a real game.  



For felicitations sake, are you watching this. That was just excrement defending for their second, as I said it doesn't matter who we playing when we defend like that.
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As I said Saturday, it's all about the details, which we get wrong almost all the time. Decision making is shocking.
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So excrement. Can't string passes together, can't defend, can't finish. Give it away every time we go forward. Making Mansfield look like Man City.


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too many individual mistakes n not getting any luck.
so frustrating coz at times we have looked good, but then we feck it up n give them the initiative.

there positives, but at the moment i would say the negatives are outweighing them
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Can someone explain to me why Clifton is so rated?..can't pass, trips over his own feet and cannot read the game at all..
Honestly, bar his engine and the fact he's a Grimsby lad he offers little in that midfield!..
Maher, Rogers, Efete all look terrible today, Artell has more on his hands than I think even he realised.
Really need to bolster the attack, Pyke and Wilson are perennial sick notes...
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Conteh and Clifton must be the poorest midfield duo in the league,get Clifton off hes been bloody shite all season.
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Didn't think Clifton could get any worse.......I was wrong.
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Clifton, Rodgers, Glennon and Efete have been absolutely flipping hopeless
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Get Disley on!
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Unbelievable.. flipping joke of a team. Let’s just keep backing them thought because they are triers.. I can’t wait till the end of the year somehow we’ve managed to get worse than we was last year even when we was excrement on quality.


I think we are worse than last year not just based on today as we have been quite good just can't finish /convert the final ball .

I think keeper is close between Cartwright /Crocombe

But a prime Waterfall/Smith trumps Maher and Rodgers for me .

Then Taylor (I know his race was all but run + Mcatee trumps just Danny Rose doesn't it as good as I think Rose is .

Midfield is just not good enough - Conteh is an upgrade but the rest is the same / worse and boy is it showing now . We needed 1 high quality ball player or physical type at least in the summer - not sure why recruitment went so wrong .

The worrying thing is Bryn Morris , Orsi and even Kiernan were not one's I thought we should keep but in hindsight now they would be better than some we have playing .
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Hurst has left us with a conference squad
Rodgers is shockingly bad we are relegation material for sure.
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Where is sicknote Vernham
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Positives from the first half is that we look pretty good going forward and just need that spot of good fortune.

Negatives take your pick out of either of the centre backs and all of the defensive frailties that we have. And, as much as a great player that waterfall is, he ain’t the answer!

Probably didn’t deserve to concede the second but, the stats don’t lie. Mansfield have had 18 shots with 7 on target against towns 7 and 4.

On a positive side too, great to see meatloaf coming back to life to see his home town of Mansfield play



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Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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We won't be relegated but DA certainly has his work cut out. A few changes in Jan will be enough to see us through to the summer where he can then properly stamp his authority on the team.
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Amazing how conte is still escaping any critics
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For felicitations sake, are you watching this. That was just excrement defending for their second, as I said it doesn't matter who we playing when we defend like that.


Yes i'm watching, can you read? I'm not debating we are excrement, the table doesn't lie but to say the whole performance has been terrible is a lie. Like I said, they are 4 years down the line of a plan with Nigel Clough. They are what we are aiming to become under Artell and there's positives to take. We've had enough chances today to score 3/4 and will get more in the second half. The patterns of play are there, the quality to finish it off isn't. They have Aden Flint and Bailey Cargill at centre half. Aden Flint who captained Sheff Wednesday to L1 promotion last season and Bailey Cargill who also won L2 with Forest Green a couple years ago. Lucas Akins up front who's spent majority of his career playing in the Champ and L1. Stephen Quinn who's spent most of his career in the championship/premier league. The difference is quality, if we had that quality going through this side we'd be level at least. It's a long term plan... not going to turn into Real Madrid over night and start beating everybody. I'm in agreement that the players are excrement, he has January to move some players on and then they'll be another overhaul of players that he doesn't think are good enough, which is majority of the squad.
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Quoted from Martz86
We won't be relegated but DA certainly has his work cut out. A few changes in Jan will be enough to see us through to the summer where he can then properly stamp his authority on the team.


You can see from the chances we’ve created that DAs plan on how to get a result could work, we’ve been unlucky not to convert them.

The thing that has let us down is poor individual concentration & play.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Conteh and Clifton must be the poorest midfield duo in the league,get Clifton off hes been bloody shite all season.


Must be me but think Conteh is doing OK, as for Harry!!!!!!!


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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What’s let us down is conference standard players.
We are right in relegation dog fight now
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Where is sicknote Vernham


You are pathetic.

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Quoted from Hagrid
Amazing how conte is still escaping any critics


I said it on Saturday, he actually does very little, and adds nothing.
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You can see from the chances we’ve created that DAs plan on how to get a result could work, we’ve been unlucky not to convert them.

The thing that has let us down is poor individual concentration & play.


Exactly that, we've hit the post, the bar and forced Christy Pym into some really good saves and then Eisa whistled one just past the post. They then go up the other end and Dunn buries it into the bottom corner.
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Didn't think it could get any worse.... i'm being forced to listen to flipping Scunthorpe commentary.
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It's sad really to think we haven't got any leaders on the pitch the last time we had players who generally cared and gave there all was Disley and co.
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Why an I listening to scunthorpe...
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Quoted from Martz86
We won't be relegated but DA certainly has his work cut out. A few changes in Jan will be enough to see us through to the summer where he can then properly stamp his authority on the team.


I can guarantee you that FGR will splash cash we simply don’t have in January. We’re definitely one of the favourites to go down.
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WTF is Scunthorpe commentary doing on our stream?
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Gnouha off ? Wtf
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I can guarantee you that FGR will splash cash we simply don’t have in January. We’re definitely one of the favourites to go down.


They threw money at it in the summer... Look where that's got them.
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Sort the fuckin g stream out!
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I just wonder about the decision making in bringing these players in.
How much influence do the data analysts have?
I really would like to know!
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Finally!
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Finally!
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streams shocking got the dodgy stick on had to watch mansfield stream and thats so much more depressing.

How they didnt score a 3rd then...
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Is Gnahoua injured?
Thought he was our best outfield player first half.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Gnouha off ? Wtf


Must be injured.  Only player who seemed to be able to unlock Mansfield.
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Is Gnahoua injured?
Thought he was our best outfield player first half.


I imagine one eye probably on Salford and Walsall.
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should be 4-0 ! 2 clear chances after HT
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Surely Arthur must be injured, he was our best player in the first half.
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Shoddy on & off the pitch today.

They’ve started well, we could end up getting a pasting here.


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We have no leaders on the pitch either.
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Must be injured.  Only player who seemed to be able to unlock Mansfield.


I hope it was a forced sub because he was our best player first half besides Cartwright who is growing in confidence with every game. Some more hopeless candidates in midfield that could be subbed.
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We have no leaders on the pitch either.


Just said that few posts ago last time we had players that gave a sh*t and ran through walls was disley and co
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This is doing my head in. We’re going backwards. Started the season very optimistic and now I think relegation is a real possibility.
We have won just five games and thrown away winning positions wastefully. Obviously wish DA good luck but he has one hell of a job on.
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Where is sicknote Vernham


You really are a troll aren't you.

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Thank god we have got Cartwright
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Andrews had no legs on him there.   Back to Scunny commentary.  It's all a bit of a joke.
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WTF, commentary messed up again.
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look at the state of Clifton get him off FFS
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Playing as shite as we are, David Artell, will have his machete ready for 1st January.

We really need to be allowed about 8 substitutes today. Is there anyone in the crowd who could play?
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Must be some tin pot company that does these streams.  Useless.
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Rodgers is having a shocker, he can’t pass water today!
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Quoted from HerveJosse
Thank god we have got Cartwright


Despite what people say he’s not the problem it’s the 2 banks in front of him.


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Is Gnahoua injured?
Thought he was our best outfield player first half.


That's what we are saying.
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Great save from Harvey again.
We would be 5/6 down by now.
Harry has to come off I'm afraid.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Did we pay a fee for Green? Because I think they could of paid us and we'd of still been robbed.
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This is probably a classic illustration of the truism - ‘you get what you pay for’.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Jesus.  Cartwirght MOM.  Rest have stopped putting a shift in.
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The team owe Cartwright big time, he's far and away our best player.
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Cartwright has earned his wages this week class performance from the young lad.

Clifton needs to be dropped completely useless today and that hurts me saying that
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Did we pay a fee for Green? Because I think they could of paid us and we'd of still been robbed.


He's just not a game starter, he got a consolation goal in the last game but still shouldn't be starting games. He's a goon you bring on late in the game to bully players and win balls and not a 90 minute player.
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Some of our lads are blowing out of their @rses


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1 chance to change things around now. And not actually sure how things could change with what we have left. Holohan/hunt for Clifton/green possibly. Conteh has certainly flattered to deceive today.

As mentioned earlier, maybe disley could come on


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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JT making things up again.  Said great save by Cartwright as he dived to the near post.  He was in the middle of his goal and the ball was hit straight at him.
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Mansfield should be 5-0 up by now only reason there not is cartwright and pure luck
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Quoted from arryarryarry


That's what we are saying.


You are going to need to change your user name
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Cartwright could be excrement for the final 30 minutes of the game and still be our MoM today at the moment.


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

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He's just not a game starter, he got a consolation goal in the last game but still shouldn't be starting games. He's a goon you bring on late in the game to bully players and win balls and not a 90 minute player.


That's what I expect from lads down on Bradley Pitches, not professional footballers  
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This is terable for some reason  last two games.. Do most of the players think they are gone in january. As if they was wrong  they are probably right about it now
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Men against boys. They should be about 17-0 up
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Jesus H Christ (happy birthday for the other day BTW), can town not run into space when they have the ball? Efete just had the whole of the right wing clear to run into with the ball, but instead turns in field and runs straight at one of their players.

They are nearly all failing to even do the absolute basics today. Cartwright deserves the MoM from about the 20th minute.
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WTF, commentary messed up again.


Still was more accurate that Tondur
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Conteh seemed to forget how to pass for a moment there
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Still was more accurate that Tondur


Absolutely

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He's just not a game starter, he got a consolation goal in the last game but still shouldn't be starting games. He's a goon you bring on late in the game to bully players and win balls and not a 90 minute player.


There’s a reason we were his first league club. Just a non league clogger. DA did Hunty a favour leaving him out today.
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One out one in won’t cut it come Jan. More likely 8 out eight in. Let’s hope we hang on to Cartwright because he’s done well irrespective.
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How has Clifton not been subbed.
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We need minimum six players in January
And ship 10 out
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How has Clifton not been subbed.


Because he’s actually playing this game on another planet 😂


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It’s little more than the fact that Mansfield have spent more money on better players than we have so they can compete for promotion. Standout facts for today, and the contrast between them and us most seen here:

They have players who can control the ball consistently.
They have players who will finish not squander chances.
They have physicality and athleticism.
They can pass and move with precision and intent.
They have excellent defenders and keeper.


What’s obvious really is that we will need to invest more money and more acumen/astuteness on better players if we want to get in the picture, and do little more than make up the numbers or tangle with relegation. Now, I’m not saying our budget is bottom 6 - I have no information or any reason to think it is, but I’d bet that it’s not close to most of those who are competing. Think Mansfield have set their stall out and have a clear statement of intent.
What’s most disappointing, for me, is that we might have been satisfied, to some extent, with a season of ‘consolidation’ at the very least. That’s top half. You couldn’t say that we’re on track with that.


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Town look positively non-league compared to Mansfield, they should be about 7-0 up
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John Tondeur has only just said "Town are looking at 6's and 7's as to their positioning now"

Possibly should have said it about 60 minutes ago
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Clifton and Andrews having been absolute sh*te
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This game more than any recently has shown how far behind we are in terms of quality.

We need six or seven players in with more quality than we currently have because what we have now its clear to see they don't have the quality needed to even avoid relegation.

If some ain't shipped out and some come in then we could well be in big trouble .


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Mansfield up to 34 shots can’t remember us ever having that number against us before.
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Not sure i've seen a worse performance in a town shirt than Cliftons today, it's up there with Anthony Straker.
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At least we know Artell doesnt make excuses for how crap the team are. Short of naming names, he says they are excrement.
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Hurst wasted the day cup money.
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This looks like two teams miles apart. 2 nil doesn't reflect how one sided this has been.


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At least we know Artell doesnt make excuses for how crap the team are. Short of naming names, he says they are excrement.


I hope he calls a few out in his interview after the game based on this performance I hope he reads them the riot act
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Hurst wasted the FA cup money
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There’s not a single player I’d be sorry to see shipped out in January
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Hurst wasted the FA cup money


He sure did, that seems a long time ago now.
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Yes i'm watching, can you read? I'm not debating we are excrement, the table doesn't lie but to say the whole performance has been terrible is a lie. Like I said, they are 4 years down the line of a plan with Nigel Clough. They are what we are aiming to become under Artell and there's positives to take. We've had enough chances today to score 3/4 and will get more in the second half. The patterns of play are there, the quality to finish it off isn't. They have Aden Flint and Bailey Cargill at centre half. Aden Flint who captained Sheff Wednesday to L1 promotion last season and Bailey Cargill who also won L2 with Forest Green a couple years ago. Lucas Akins up front who's spent majority of his career playing in the Champ and L1. Stephen Quinn who's spent most of his career in the championship/premier league. The difference is quality, if we had that quality going through this side we'd be level at least. It's a long term plan... not going to turn into Real Madrid over night and start beating everybody. I'm in agreement that the players are excrement, he has January to move some players on and then they'll be another overhaul of players that he doesn't think are good enough, which is majority of the squad.


Are you sure you are watching the right game.

It wouldn't matter if they were 4 weeks into their plan for about 80 minutes we have been utter flipping garbage.
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Quoted from chaos33
It’s little more than the fact that Mansfield have spent more money on better players than we have so they can compete for promotion. Standout facts for today, and the contrast between them and us most seen here:

They have players who can control the ball consistently.
They have players who will finish not squander chances.
They have physicality and athleticism.
They can pass and move with precision and intent.
They have excellent defenders and keeper.



What’s obvious really is that we will need to invest more money and more acumen/astuteness on better players if we want to get in the picture, and do little more than make up the numbers or tangle with relegation. Now, I’m not saying our budget is bottom 6 - I have no information or any reason to think it is, but I’d bet that it’s not close to most of those who are competing. Think Mansfield have set their stall out and have a clear statement of intent.
What’s most disappointing, for me, is that we might have been satisfied, to some extent, with a season of ‘consolidation’ at the very least. That’s top half. You couldn’t say that we’re on track with that.


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Even though I have watched it for free, I still think its been a waste of money!!!!
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Hurst wasted the day cup money.


Are you capable of anything other than inflammatory one liners that bear little or no relation to the subject at hand.
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37 shots against, we are talking Sunday league stats here . I don’t care how good Mansfield are that is an embarrassing stat . I noticed against Harrogate that we’d stopped running again , it’s a major concern that the new manager bounce lasted 3 games
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Goals change games.....we had 3-4 good opportunities whilst the game was in the balance....we gave that second goal up and game gone.


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Big gulf in class between the sides, lucky it wasn't more really but that second goal on half time was what killed it. Much work to be done.
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Shooting practice for Mansfield. We could have shipped 7 or 8 today with no complaints. And tbh Harrogate could easily have put 4or 5 in. Summer recruitment absolutely  appalling.
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Team full of players that are weak-minded and lacking in technical ability. Artell has his work cut out cause frankly other than Rose you could get rid of any of them and I wouldn’t be upset.

Need at least one centre back, a centre mid and a striker to come in in January. And they'll only need to be able to pass a ball consistently over five yards to be an improvement on a lot of our players.
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Quoted from 141269


Are you capable of anything other than inflammatory one liners that bear little or relation to the subject at hand.


I think he is right, Hurst has left us with a shower of shite.
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I’m really sorry but other than some subs I don’t see a difference from hurst-ball to artell-ball. Yes, we’re playing 4th. Yes we lost pyke but still players low on confidence (Conteh & Clifton) and ineffective. When we tried to play out they were all over us. Yet when they tried the same, we let them. When your goalie is clear MOM that’s all you need to know. Long season ahead.
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Tools firmly downed by at least 3 second half , if it wasn't for Cartwright it would have been close to double figures - didn't expect anything from today but the 1200 of us  that went deserved a better and more dignified performance than that .

Came away more worried than I thought i would .
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Artell told us not to worry - this team won't get relegated. This team already look non league.
If results go against today we could be third from bottom.  He might not be worried - but I certainly am.
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Shooting practice for Mansfield. We could have shipped 7 or 8 today with no complaints. And tbh Harrogate could easily have put 4or 5 in. Summer recruitment absolutely  appalling.


You obviously have no idea how recruiting works.

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A lot of fans on this forum owe Harvey Cartwight a massive appology. Without him it could have been double figures.
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Thankfully the coaching for Cartwright seems to be working.

Lost for words for the rest of them….
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When you're 2 - 0 down at half time you come out and give it a good go don't you? Bust a gut to get to the ball first, put your foot in, take a few chances and show your travelling support that you want to get back in the game, well that's what I always thought.


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We cannot shift any of this deadwood out and Stockwood has said he is not willing to put any money in.
We are right in a relegation dog fight
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You obviously have no idea how recruiting works.



Why do you need to have a detailed knowledge of the recruitment process to know that in the main we recruited badly in the summer? It’s plainly obvious that we have an unbalanced squad lacking technically, mentally and physically.
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Carry on like this and we're going down.
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You can probably say that ANY player that Artell ships out in January will not command a fee, but will save on their wages UNLESS they are still under a 3-year contract where we may have to pay them off.

I would think there is a bit in the pot to cover any increase in wages, which you would expect to pay if they are looking to sign players of better quality or with experience.

I would be very surprised if David Artell does pay a fee for any player to come in, so we are dependant on Artell's little black book, and then those who are available on a free transfer, but we know what sort of quality they can provide, dont we?
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If the teams below us win their games this in hand we are second bottom so I guess we are now in a relegation battle whatever is said
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Bloody hell.  I've just checked score on bbc.  39 shots against!!!  Really....wtaf.
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Why do you need to have a detailed knowledge of the recruitment process to know that we in the main we recruited badly in the summer? It’s plainly obvious that we have an unbalanced squad lacking technically, mentally and physically.


I see you don't get it either.  You can't just go to a player and say you're coming to my club, there are loads of reasons why he doesn't want to.  I'm not going to list them all as some of them are fairly obvious.  So for someone to say we recruited badly, unless he is Joe Hutchinson, he has no idea who we tried to sign, the reasons they didn't sign for us, and also players who turned us down.

I've said it before, but I will say it again.  It's not like going into a shop and seeing something you want to buy, take it off the shelf, pay for it and it's yours.  There are numerous reasons players won't sign for us.

You don't need detailed knowledge of how the recruitment process works at all, most of it is common sense.

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But the teams below us dont win as well . So dont expect them ALLto win their game in hand . However we MUST beat the teams below us now till the end of the season  
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But the teams below us dont win as well . So dont expect them ALLto win their game in hand . However we MUST beat the teams below us now till the end of the season  
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We cannot shift any of this deadwood out and Stockwood has said he is not willing to put any money in.
We are right in a relegation dog fight


Well they will have to find ££££ in the summer to make up for the shortfall in ST sales , we won't shift no way near 5k+ again and will be back to hoping for on field glory to boost numbers . Feel for us fans as it's seeming like promotion and the cup run is just yet another false dawn .


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I’m very concerned about our league status Stockwood is losing interest we have a team of national league players with no fight a new manager who seems incapable of changing the last two dire games.
We need a  point at Salford desperately.
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I see you don't get it either.  You can't just go to a player and say you're coming to my club, there are loads of reasons why he doesn't want to.  I'm not going to list them all as some of them are fairly obvious.  So for someone to say we recruited badly, unless he is Joe Hutchinson, he has no idea who we tried to sign, the reasons they didn't sign for us, and also players who turned us down.

I've said it before, but I will say it again.  It's not like going into a shop and seeing something you want to buy, take it off the shelf, pay for it and it's yours.  There are numerous reasons players won't sign for us.

You don't need detailed knowledge of how the recruitment process works at all, most of it is common sense.



There are multiple reasons and factors why anybody in any job may not have done as well as they would have hoped for. And whilst you may take them into consideration you can still say that the outcome is subpar. The facts are the recruitment was extremely poor. The reasons why are unimportant. We’re lacking pace across virtually the entire squad but what you’re suggesting is that there’s no player available across the whole of the footballing world who would have been willing to come to us and within our price range. And that is palpable nonsense.
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I’m very concerned about our league status Stockwood is losing interest we have a team of national league players with no fight a new manager who seems incapable of changing the last two dire games.
We need a  point at Salford desperately.


I continue to be amazed at the utter rubbish you keep spouting on here.

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There are multiple reasons and factors why anybody in any job may not have done as well as they would have hoped for. And whilst you may take them into consideration you can still say that the outcome is subpar. The facts are the recruitment was extremely poor. The reasons why are unimportant. We’re lacking pace across virtually the entire squad but what you’re suggesting is that there’s no player available across the whole of the footballing world who would have been willing to come to us and within our price range. And that is palpable nonsense.


Lol, are you serious?  Please show me where I said that.  You are a joke.

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Lol, are you serious?  Please show me where I said that.  You are a joke.



If your squad is lacking in particular attributes then a good recruitment process would identify that and find someone who can rectify it. I totally accept that there will be some players who, for various reasons, will not sign for you but that is not an excuse for us having no pace throughout the entire squad which is what you’re suggesting. The only reason it would be an excuse would be if there were no players at all who had pace who we could sign which is clearly nonsense.

Why are you always so quick to turn personal? You are a very aggressive individual without the intellectual capacity to understand different points of view or to discuss something without getting cross. And this isn’t on me, you do this with plenty of other posters so you are the common denominator.
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I continue to be amazed at the utter rubbish you keep spouting on here.



Tbf, you are probably one of the worst posters on here


Only the dead have seen the end of war
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Tbf, you are probably one of the worst posters on here


Why, because I challenge people who generalise, and make statements that they cannot backup with facts?

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You obviously have no idea how recruiting works.



Well when you recruit you usually try to get better.

You obviously haven't tried recruiting anybody.
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If your squad is lacking in particular attributes then a good recruitment process would identify that and find someone who can rectify it. I totally accept that there will be some players who, for various reasons, will not sign for you but that is not an excuse for us having no pace throughout the entire squad which is what you’re suggesting. The only reason it would be an excuse would be if there were no players at all who had pace who we could sign which is clearly nonsense.

Why are you always so quick to turn personal? You are a very aggressive individual without the intellectual capacity to understand difference points of view or to discuss something without getting cross. And this isn’t on me, you do this with plenty of other posters so you are the common denominator.


Lol, turn personal?  You have no idea.  Stop playing the victim mate, and speak facts, not stuff you THINK might, or has happened.

Oh, and where is the quote that I asked you to show me re my post about the recruiting process???

You don't know me mate, so you have no idea about me at all.  The thing is, people don't like being told they are wrong so they then turn into someone like you doubting my intelligence, calling me aggressive when they don't know me at all, so stop trying to lecture me, I'm too old for that kind of stuff.
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Lol, turn personal?  You have no idea.  Stop playing the victim mate, and speak facts, not stuff you THINK might, or has happened.

Oh, and where is the quote that I asked you to show me re my post about the recruiting process???

You don't know me mate, so you have no idea about me at all.  The thing is, people don't like being told they are wrong so they then turn into someone like you doubting my intelligence, calling me aggressive when they don't know me at all, so stop trying to lecture me, I'm too old for that kind of stuff.


I don’t need a direct quote. You were the one going off about people not knowing the recruitment process so I have extrapolated to show that that is totally irrelevant to being able to see that recruitment this summer was poor. It’s not a difficult thing to understand but your inability to understand an argument that is even slightly more abstract than the absolutes that you deal in suggests that you’re, at best, below par in terms of intelligence.

You’re either a troll in which case you are a genius. Or you are so thick that you struggle to understand basic concepts. And although you are correct in saying that I don’t know you, I have read more than enough of your posts to suspect it’s the latter.
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Well when you recruit you usually try to get better.

You obviously haven't tried recruiting anybody.


I agree with the fact that you TRY to get better, but that doesn't always work.  In fact, that is basically what I said above, only in more detail.

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Could be famous last words from Artell regarding relegation.


Thought exactly that when he said it. Very foolish considering how many games left and how shite we are.
Oh well,our illustrious leaders know what they are doing.😀
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Lol, turn personal?  You have no idea.  Stop playing the victim mate, and speak facts, not stuff you THINK might, or has happened.

Oh, and where is the quote that I asked you to show me re my post about the recruiting process???

You don't know me mate, so you have no idea about me at all.  The thing is, people don't like being told they are wrong so they then turn into someone like you doubting my intelligence, calling me aggressive when they don't know me at all, so stop trying to lecture me, I'm too old for that kind of stuff.


You know we are in trouble when fans start turning on each other.
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I don’t need a direct quote. You were the one going off about people not knowing the recruitment process so I have extrapolated to show that that is totally irrelevant to being able to see that recruitment this summer was poor. It’s not a difficult thing to understand but your inability to understand an argument that is even slightly more abstract than the absolutes that you deal in suggests that you’re, at best, below par in terms of intelligence.

You’re either a troll in which case you are a genius. Or you are so thick that you struggle to understand basic concepts. And although you are correct in saying that I don’t know you, I have read more than enough of your posts to suspect it’s the latter.


That is because what you said was a lie.  

You are the troll mate, because you say things that are not true, then when challenged, get all upset and start questioning someone's intelligence etc. when you know absolutely nothing about them at all.  You try to turn it on me, when it was you that lied about something I was supposed to have said, when in actual fact I said nothing of the sort.  One day maybe you will grow up, go around the world, and learn a lot about yourself and others.  I wish you luck with that.

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Gosh you’re thick. As others have said, you’re one of the worst posters on here.
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Tbf, you are probably one of the worst posters on here


Oiiii come on now that’s not fair .

I’m the worst poster on here

Hang on I didn’t read the “probably “ bit . Sorry
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Gosh you’re thick. As others have said, you’re one of the worst posters on here.


Bored now, you're blocked.  Be interesting to see some of the worst posts I have supposed to have posted though.  People just don't like being told they are wrong.

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Bored now, you're blocked.  Be interesting to see some of the worst posts I have supposed to have posted though.  People just don't like being told they are wrong.



We can start at your racist posts if you’d like and busk it from there?
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We can start at your racist posts if you’d like and busk it from there?


Excuse me?  Show me any racist post I made.  I would imagine if that was true then I would have been banned from this forum.

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Excuse me?  Show me any racist post I made.



We go through this every month.

Your memory is shorter than your temper!
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Am I have a moment. Having made the journey and what he’s what can only be described as awful desire mixed with incapable footballers, is it fair to suggest we had a better and more skilful team in national league?  I just feel we have gone backwards and this group of players are out of their depth in this league. I am going to games in hope rather than expectation.  DA has quite a job on his hands. I would be happy with survival and get rid of the plethora of dross we have putting the shirt on. At least there is room for someone, anyone, to show some desire passion and energy to impress the new coach.
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We go through this every month.

Your memory is shorter than your temper!


Really!  You have yet to show me a racist post I have made, so put up, or shut up.

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Am I have a moment. Having made the journey and what he’s what can only be described as awful desire mixed with incapable footballers, is it fair to suggest we had a better and more skilful team in national league?  I just feel we have gone backwards and this group of players are out of their depth in this league. I am going to games in hope rather than expectation.  DA has quite a job on his hands. I would be happy with survival and get rid of the plethora of dross we have putting the shirt on. At least there is room for someone, anyone, to show some desire passion and energy to impress the new coach.


I would take the promotion team over this one right now even under Artell if that is your question .
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So did Mr Hurst bring in worse players then last season, even though he had, i presume, a good chunk of the cup money.
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I would take the promotion team over this one right now even under Artell if that is your question .


Would have liked to see Rose and McAtee in the same team….

There’s two more years on the leg clock of Gav and Luke and we don’t have Smith, some of what we got in is not a step up in quality. Conteh and Danny certainly are. Pyke and Gnahoua are looking better, but Harry has gone backwards.

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If we go down Hurst and the board have to take the responsibility for the assembly of this diabolical squad.
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Wilson nope
Clifton nope
Rodgers nope
Khan nope
Pyke nope
Andrews nope
Ainley nope
Efete nope
Amos nope
Mullarky nope
Eastwood nope

That’s just my opinion but how has this happened ?
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Wilson nope
Clifton nope
Rodgers nope
Khan nope
Pyke nope
Andrews nope
Ainley nope
Efete nope
Amos nope
Mullarky nope
Eastwood nope

That’s just my opinion but how has this happened ?


I think Pyke has shown enough to show he can be a very useful player, he's just not a striker.
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I think Pyke has shown enough to show he can be a very useful player, he's just not a striker.


That’s fair
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we was far better last yr nobody can deny that , we have gone backwards when the budgets gone the other way
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Wilson nope
Clifton nope
Rodgers nope
Khan nope
Pyke nope
Andrews nope
Ainley nope
Efete nope
Amos nope
Mullarky nope
Eastwood nope

That’s just my opinion but how has this happened ?


Too many voices + giving a manager who is better at working with limited resource more fun money is my guess
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we was far better last yr nobody can deny that , we have gone backwards when the budgets gone the other way


We weren’t far better, more resilient, more dog in us, especially the Cup, but a lot league games not much difference, but whilst we’ve gone somewhat backwards the standard of League 2 overall looks higher than last season. The likes of Bradford, challengers last season, are mid-table, big spenders Gillingham similar, Stockport, Mansfield and Barrow have kicked on, Notts and Hollywood big budgets have joined with Wimbledon and Crewe much improved.  The relegated sides save the veggies are decent and relegation favourites Crawley have surprised a few teams.

What concerns is that the budget isn’t going to be there to keep pace and last summer was a bit of a one shot opportunity and we’ve blown it. The only cause for optimism at the moment is the performance of the youth and the hope a few will break through into the first team squad next season.
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We weren’t far better, more resilient, more dog in us, especially the Cup, but a lot league games not much difference, but whilst we’ve gone somewhat backwards the standard of League 2 overall looks higher than last season. The likes of Bradford, challengers last season, are mid-table, big spenders Gillingham similar, Stockport, Mansfield and Barrow have kicked on, Notts and Hollywood big budgets have joined with Wimbledon and Crewe much improved.  The relegated sides save the veggies are decent and relegation favourites Crawley have surprised a few teams.

What concerns is that the budget isn’t going to be there to keep pace and last summer was a bit of a one shot opportunity and we’ve blown it. The only cause for optimism at the moment is the performance of the youth and the hope a few will break through into the first team squad next season.


No disrespect to them but it's a frigging sad day when we can't compete with Barrow.
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You forgot Vernham on the list he is a nope from me.
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Probably best everyone calms down for 48 hrs and forgets about everything gtfc.


Lower F5
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That is the perfect sentiment I reckon. Spot on.
Bit of quiet, calm but honest reflection prob the best advice of the day.


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Well what bunch of excrement house stewards  from Mansfield one particular the supervisor far passed my  expectations. Been to every away this season Convienced the family to drive from London to the game 7am start .Got there waited for them to  open .They had a dog at gate jumping sniffing doing his job . Stopped us  said  he is jumping all over us not coming in We said please   search us  get the police to search .Then the dog did same to two men but  he searched them let them in .Same steward supervisor turned around to the  drummer who said he had permission from club to play  to remove yourself in 5min or we will have him arrested. My son said Dad you know what I will stick with watching Arsenal less grief with London Derby. But he did make me laugh when he said looked like mariners didn't come out in 2nd half in sympathy   us not getting in the ground .Please sort these stewards out .I've written to the club.Funny no family member wants to come with me to Salford .Draw my line under it after that nearly 60 years watching.the mariners  can not be arsed with the treatment anymore .All the best
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Quoted from Trevor Whymark
Well what bunch of excrement house stewards  from Mansfield one particular the supervisor far passed my  expectations. Been to every away this season Convienced the family to drive from London to the game 7am start .Got there waited for them to  open .They had a dog at gate jumping sniffing doing his job . Stopped us  said  he is jumping all over us not coming in We said please   search us  get the police to search .Then the dog did same to two men but  he searched them let them in .Same steward supervisor turned around to the  drummer who said he had permission from club to play  to remove yourself in 5min or we will have him arrested. My son said Dad you know what I will stick with watching Arsenal less grief with London Derby. But he did make me laugh when he said looked like mariners didn't come out in 2nd half in sympathy   us not getting in the ground .Please sort these stewards out .I've written to the club.Funny no family member wants to come with me to Salford .Draw my line under it after that nearly 60 years watching.the mariners  can not be arsed with the treatment anymore .All the best


I’d escalate this to Kristine Green mate, she’s absolutely brilliant with ensuring the right people get to know about this kind thing of stuff.


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