Don't be safe...

D.A can be heard telling the players this in the players warm up mini game before the game on the Crewe Inside matchday video.
Only 3 words but quite a telling comment /insight into where we are heading.
Excellent.

Quoted from moosey_club

D.A can be heard telling the players this in the players warm up mini game before the game on the Crewe Inside matchday video.
Only 3 words but quite a telling comment /insight into where we are heading.
Excellent.

I’m all for that, but the downside is we’re gonna have to get used to even more playing out from the back, which if Prem players struggle with (they do) then there’ll be some hairy moments coming up for us.

I noticed a few times we were passing it around in defence on Saturday but Cartwright had no choice but to lump it when we got in tight situations, so we’re definitely not proficient at it yet.

Ultimately, if you try and play out but have to end up lumping it, that's not too much of a problem. Not greatly different to punting a goal kick directly upfield.

It's better than being caught in possession near your box.

Quoted from Heisenberg

I’m all for that, but the downside is we’re gonna have to get used to even more playing out from the back, which if Prem players struggle with (they do) then there’ll be some hairy moments coming up for us.

I noticed a few times we were passing it around in defence on Saturday but Cartwright had no choice but to lump it when we got in tight situations, so we’re definitely not proficient at it yet.

I'm taking some of your words and the basic theme of this post and applying it across the whole range of views which might seem like an individual dig but this is an example of what frustrates me in a wider context.

We as fans want to be entertained, we want the ball forward, we want chances, we want goals and we want to win games. To do that comes a level of risk, PH was considered very risk averse and this drew pelters from many quarters.

DA is cognisant of the fact that if we want to play football in a way to excite then safety is not a routine practice. There will of course be times when we have to play safe (HC kicking long), but generally we need to have a higher level of risk.

Playing out from the back isn't risky in the traditional sense. They're simply passing the ball, that should - for the most part - be pretty standard and routine. The element of risk is that any mistakes potentially give the ball to the opposition closer to our goal.

If you understand why we pass the ball then you'll understand why playing out from the back has become a staple part of the modern game. I'm all for it and although it can leave you a little heart in mouth at times I wouldn't want to move away from it.

I thought that the MK Dons game was a much better performance than the Crewe game but both have been positive showings and I think we're going to win/draw more than we lose for the rest of the season and I attribute a more purposeful playing out from the back as a big reason for that. Both PH and DA wanted to play out but I think DA recognises that what you gain from it is lost if you don't follow it with risk, which is very different to PH and a big reason for the differences we've seen in style.

I'm willing to bet we concede at least one goal this season as a direct result of a mistake playing out and more as indirect results but we'll also score considerable amounts more too. I place myself firmly on the side of the fence that wants to see us play football all over the pitch so more than happy seeing us play out from the back.

If the keeper has to punt it, it's because 2-3 or more opponents are in or around our penalty area thus leaving space for the forwards to exploit. In the past when Macca got the ball he would just hoof it aimlessly down the middle which is always food and drink for defenders.
I use to get annoyed when both teams were in a huddle close to the halfway line on one side of the pitch waiting for a goal kick. It was like watching schoolboys playing in the playground.

We will concede far more goals by simply hoofing it up the field than playing football FROM the back.

The idea is you only hoof it when it's absolutely essential and the more we play in this style the better we will get.

It will only work if you truly believe in it which is why Hurst couldn't adapt.

Quoted from Maringer

Ultimately, if you try and play out but have to end up lumping it, that's not too much of a problem. Not greatly different to punting a goal kick directly upfield.

It's better than being caught in possession near your box.

I'm not so sure to be honest.
Booting the ball up field has at best a 50/50 chance of going to a Town player, probably a lot less as there are usually more of the defending teams' players in their half, probably even less when you think that most of their defenders are usually taller than our strike force plus our attackers have to control the ball and find another Town player.
I'm sure that statistically it's better to play out from the back to build on play and play attractive football , the only problem is when it goes wrong it goes very wrong and can easily result in a goal

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I'm taking some of your words and the basic theme of this post and applying it across the whole range of views which might seem like an individual dig but this is an example of what frustrates me in a wider context.

We as fans want to be entertained, we want the ball forward, we want chances, we want goals and we want to win games. To do that comes a level of risk, PH was considered very risk averse and this drew pelters from many quarters.

DA is cognisant of the fact that if we want to play football in a way to excite then safety is not a routine practice. There will of course be times when we have to play safe (HC kicking long), but generally we need to have a higher level of risk.

Playing out from the back isn't risky in the traditional sense. They're simply passing the ball, that should - for the most part - be pretty standard and routine. The element of risk is that any mistakes potentially give the ball to the opposition closer to our goal.

If you understand why we pass the ball then you'll understand why playing out from the back has become a staple part of the modern game. I'm all for it and although it can leave you a little heart in mouth at times I wouldn't want to move away from it.

I thought that the MK Dons game was a much better performance than the Crewe game but both have been positive showings and I think we're going to win/draw more than we lose for the rest of the season and I attribute a more purposeful playing out from the back as a big reason for that. Both PH and DA wanted to play out but I think DA recognises that what you gain from it is lost if you don't follow it with risk, which is very different to PH and a big reason for the differences we've seen in style.

I'm willing to bet we concede at least one goal this season as a direct result of a mistake playing out and more as indirect results but we'll also score considerable amounts more too. I place myself firmly on the side of the fence that wants to see us play football all over the pitch so more than happy seeing us play out from the back.

Broadly agree with this but in comparison to the MK game the pitch was very heavy on Saturday so at times I was happy that HC took the pragmatic approach. Also, if the opposition does push forward and we have a one on one situation then a long ball can be productive.

Even this early into the new regime there were people around me shouting for players to stop passing the ball around and to get it forward. They are definitely going to get more frustrated in the coming games.

Quoted from moosey_club

D.A can be heard telling the players this in the players warm up mini game before the game on the Crewe Inside matchday video.
Only 3 words but quite a telling comment /insight into where we are heading.
Excellent.

I like his no nonsense but motivational and very clear attitude and instructions, that obviously rubs off on the players and they have a real leader and someone who they are very clearly playing for.
There is something about DA that screams winner, with all due respect to PH and lesser respect to PH's predecesors this has been missing at the club for a very long time.

Puts the shits up me to be honest………