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Roy Keane Luis Suarez
It's not so much about deliberately hurting an opponent, it's about deliberately fouling them.
There's also the question of intent. We've seen players lose their head when they feel aggrieved and subsequently dive into a challenge with little regard to the consequences. They need punishing.
Accidentally treading on a foot that a millisecond earlier is placed directly underneath where you are about to put your foot down is not a foul surely.
I respect your argument, but if you’re late, the term is “reckless”. If you’re late, you should be punished, whether you’ve been lazy or you’re slower than your opponent.
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December 6, 2023, 10:17pm |
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There’s just been a VAR delay to check a McTominay goal. It really does suck all the joy and spontaneity out of watching football
That’s why I struggle to watch the Prem. And wasn’t the criterion supposed to be “clear and obvious error”?
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In other news Man City get an absolute skull fúcking from Aston Villa. The most one-sided 1-0 I’ve seen in a long time.
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I don’t like VAR, but that’s a penalty. It’s only because Anthony has relinquished control of the ball that some don’t think it’s a foul, but that’s irrelevant. Of all the arguments to be made against VAR recently, that’s not the one.
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December 6, 2023, 10:26pm |
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Too many people forget all the many good VAR decisions and highlight just the bad ones. It's a work in progress but is an improvement on the old system of relying on humans. It will be the same when we get driverless cars, everyone will complain about the handful of deaths caused by the cars and forget that humans used to kill one million of one another every year. Classic case of confirmation bias.
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I don’t like VAR, but that’s a penalty. It’s only because Anthony has relinquished control of the ball that some don’t think it’s a foul, but that’s irrelevant. Of all the arguments to be made against VAR recently, that’s not the one.
It’s not a penalty, there is an argument. The opinion of the VAR has given that . If it was you , you would give it . If it was me I wouldn’t . The ref going to the monitor is an absolute joke , the VAR rules football (that has it) now and it’s garbage . Not one single monitor visit had been overruled. What’s the point
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December 6, 2023, 11:11pm |
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But we're still relying on humans.
The only difference now is that humans have tech to help them analyse moments, but we can still mess it up by not using the tech properly, or just not thinking clearly under pressure.
I think the biggest shift in the whole VAR debate is to re-educate everyone — players, managers, pundits, media, fans — that it's there to simply eradicate the absolute howlers.
That's it.
Contentious decisions will remain. Referees may one week call every soft challenge a penalty, then the next week be more lenient and wave them away.
I think people get wound up because they expect correct decisions to be made 100% of the time. It's fine to aim for that, but it's never going to be the case.
Football ebbs and flows. There's a lot of interpretation involved in every 'coming together'.
Personally, if the ref didn't give the penalty at the time and VAR are 100% certain it is a penalty then fair play, make that call. If they're not 100% certain then leave the decision with the on-field ref.
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December 6, 2023, 11:12pm |
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If you stand on somebody's foot, it's a foul. Intent doesn't come into it since the laws were rewritten back in the late 90s, so it's a penalty.
Not controversial at all, in my opinion.
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Perhaps a Windscale => Sellafield type renaming would help?
Maybe SARS (Stupidly Absurd Review System)?
Fortunately this football virus only infects the "Premiership".
VAR sucks.
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Quoted from 137
Perhaps a Windscale => Sellafield type renaming would help?
With the data and nuclear leaks coming from Sellafield at the moment, they might have to re-name it again soon.
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