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141269
October 27, 2023, 8:10am
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Given that Paul Hurst will clearly be in charge tomorrow and probably against Slough, is it time to end hostilities regards his tenure and get back to doing what we do best and supporting the team.

There are countless threads here discussing his and others demise.  Finger pointing had been towards Paul, Chris Doig, the board, the players, the coaching staff, Fenty et al.

I mean even posts about resurfacing the car park are met with such vitriol.

Don't get me wrong things aren't good on the field presently but all the surrounding negativity is doing nothing to help the situation.  
I'm sure the players, management team & board have seen many of the things written on social media.
Imagine the impact that's having.

We need to have a ceasefire on hostilities and really get behind the team against Doncaster.  

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I believe Hurst will approach this game like he does all 'one off' games, with a cavalier approach and I fully expect a win. It is the subsequent league games where he will probably revert to type that will cost him
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October 27, 2023, 9:07am

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Rubbish. This isn't going away. Lose tomorrow and it will get more toxic. This only ends one way, the question is when not if.
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Think he needs either a win, or a draw with a good performance/ good story tomorrow or he’ll be out.

Things could look very different in 10 days time if he gets a win tomorrow, gets a result at Slough and a decent cup draw that evening.

Doesn’t chance anything for me but I’m not the one with my finger on the trigger. Think it’s ridiculous to suggest people aren’t supportive, the reason people are so invested is because they care about the club and don’t want a repeat of the last 15 years.
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I’m heading to Donny tomorrow, against my better judgement, with the thinking that it has the potential to be a significant day. Either a sad end to the Hurst mkii era, or a game that goes down in folklore as the one that began to turn it all around (a kind of Notts County Feb ‘22).

I know where I’d be placing my bet if I had to put my house on it, but I do feel there’s something oddly compelling about this match.

Ultimately, I reached the regretful conclusion that Tuesday night’s result and performance symbolised the need for change, but you can only support the team and manager in front of you and I think that’s the right mindset to approach tomorrow’s game.


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Quoted from GollyGTFC
Rubbish. This is going away. Lose tomorrow and it will get more toxic. This only ends one way, the question is when not if.


I don't agree that there have even been many hostile posts towards Hurst really has there ? Just respectful reasoning of why he should probably be axed ; I know there are a few who put the point over in a more damning way but I would not say it's many . It's definitely not at toxic levels yet - worlds away from Burton away for example or even a couple of those destructions by lowly part time conference sides.
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October 27, 2023, 11:14am
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Given that Paul Hurst will clearly be in charge tomorrow and probably against Slough, is it time to end hostilities regards his tenure and get back to doing what we do best and supporting the team.

There are countless threads here discussing his and others demise.  Finger pointing had been towards Paul, Chris Doig, the board, the players, the coaching staff, Fenty et al.

I mean even posts about resurfacing the car park are met with such vitriol.

Don't get me wrong things aren't good on the field presently but all the surrounding negativity is doing nothing to help the situation.  
I'm sure the players, management team & board have seen many of the things written on social media.
Imagine the impact that's having.

We need to have a ceasefire on hostilities and really get behind the team against Doncaster.  

UTM
point taken it is rife on here
UTM



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October 27, 2023, 11:23am

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We can all move on if we get a few wins.

Then there's always some on here who are never happy.


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October 27, 2023, 11:55am
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Quoted from Mappers


I don't agree that there have even been many hostile posts towards Hurst really has there ?  


Suggesting he should be buried underneath the new park is fairly hostile I'd say.
Being called a fecking idiot likewise.

Like Poojah I'll be there tomorrow supporting the team with everything I've got.
I'm hoping a win with a good performance might just dampen down things a tad and we don't have a multi thread post mortem.  
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Suggesting he should be buried underneath the new park is fairly hostile I'd say.
Being called a fecking idiot likewise.

Like Poojah I'll be there tomorrow supporting the team with everything I've got.
I'm hoping a win with a good performance might just dampen down things a tad and we don't have a multi thread post mortem.  


That's just idiotic isn't it , but I still don't think the overwhelming theme of this board or Town fans in general is abuse towards Hurst or overstepping the mark ; yes there are donuts but most of what I read on here is in the main well balanced and pretty respectful really .

I just think the majority of Town fans are pretty intelligent and thoughtful ,  that relatively small minority tarnish their reputation a tad - maybe on here i just skim past the 1 sentence abusive posts as it's a bit of a waste of  air isn't it .
Disclaimer :
Yoda & whoever wanted arr Paul buried alive .
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October 27, 2023, 12:58pm
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Me and the same crew from the Soton game there tomorrow. I’ll just take the win from two pens and Danny Rose in Orsi role for the second…
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October 27, 2023, 1:22pm

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Unfortunately I can’t see any other outcome other than another defeat and then things spiral out of control at the game . It would’ve been far better for all if we at Carlisle.


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Anything less than a win tomorrow and its definitely time for Hurst to move on.
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Unfortunately I can’t see any other outcome other than another defeat and then things spiral out of control at the game . It would’ve been far better for all if we at Carlisle.


It would as we would have been promoted!
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Anything less than a win tomorrow and its definitely time for Hurst to move on.


Unrealistic though. He ain’t gonna be sacked if we draw. Lose?….then maybe. Be hard to see it as anything other than justified if we lose.


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October 27, 2023, 5:28pm
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Come on, where's the positivity that I was kind of trying to instil?

Let's not talk of defeats, draws or managerial speculation.  There's enough of that elsewhere.

Let's get behind the lads and think only of that win.

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After a few days of over the top thoughts and reactions I’ve decided PH deserves the next 5 games .
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October 27, 2023, 5:37pm

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I have always slipped from one side of the fence to the other regarding Hursty.

Give us a few wins Paul and I will be back on your side of the fence.


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I have always slipped from one side of the fence to the other regarding Hursty.

Give us a few wins Paul and I will be back on your side of the fence.


I know that's slightly tongue in cheek but spot on.

If we were playing really well and you could see some method in the madness then of course we could give him as long as it takes but he seems to be basing his defence on the fact that he has been in the game a long time.

Some wins will give him some space but we can't go on indefinitely like this.
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After a few days of over the top thoughts and reactions I’ve decided PH deserves the next 5 games .


The decision isn’t ours to make.

I think a couple of decent results would only kick the can down the road and he would only be another bad run away from dismissal. I just don’t see what the game plan is, I hope to be proved wrong but we just look like we’ve got players who aren’t comfortable playing in the way he’s asking.
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It bites and the voice of reason now gaslighting! The world’s gone mad!


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October 27, 2023, 6:08pm
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I'll be honest I don't actually know what gaslighting means.  I'm of a certain age.
Can you explain it and how I've done it?
I'm not being sarcastic by the way.
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I'll be honest I don't actually know what gaslighting means.  I'm of a certain age.
Can you explain it and how I've done it?
I'm not being sarcastic by the way.


Gaslighting = Bumhole + flame
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October 27, 2023, 6:32pm
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I'll be honest I don't actually know what gaslighting means.  I'm of a certain age.
Can you explain it and how I've done it?
I'm not being sarcastic by the way.


Are you all electric then?
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Suggesting he should be buried underneath the new park is fairly hostile I'd say


Unless the tweet was deleted I can't see anyone saying that.

My one, "Bloody hell we only said show him the door not flatten him in the car park" was clearly a joke and literally says the opposite.



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Gaslighting - making others doubt their perception of reality and the truth of their memory. Offering an alternative perception of the truth as remembered and understood by another.


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October 27, 2023, 7:09pm
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I've just looked and it's been deleted so possibly somebody from here?

Thanks for the meaning Chaos.

I can see how giving an alternate opinion could be construed as gaslighting but it's never been my intention nor do I think I've actually done it in the context I've used.
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Unlike Hurst this is not going away.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Gaslighting - making others doubt their perception of reality and the truth of their memory. Offering an alternative perception of the truth as remembered and understood by another.


Originated in the 1938 classic British play Gas Light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
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Pressure on Hurst and the players they need a win a draw or loss here then a defeat in the fa cup he has to go.
Stockwood will pull the trigger when gates are 3-4k.
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Pressure on Hurst and the players they need a win a draw or loss here then a defeat in the fa cup he has to go.
Stockwood will pull the trigger when gates are 3-4k.


You forgot to mention he has already collected ST money from 5,500. So if the gates do drop it may not be a financial hit on the club.



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You forgot to mention he has already collected ST money from 5,500. So if the gates do drop it may not be a financial hit on the club.



Well they need to think about next season as if this season is disappointing then we won't have 5500 season ticket holders next season
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October 28, 2023, 5:58pm
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But there'll be a new manager with new hope for next year. Barring relegation I'd expect we'll say about the same as there'll be renewed optimism.
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