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Walsall Match Thread

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Hagrid
August 26, 2023, 6:03pm

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Thought he did alright today. Got plenty of crosses in and worked tirelessly going backwards. He's not in top form clearly, but he'll be a fine signing if he stays fit. Interesting Hurst suggesting he's still getting up to speed from a knee op.


Is that so? I havent heard the interview so didnt know that- thank you
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Dont want to repeat myself but 3 years for Vernam… dear me


Don't know if it's anything to do with Vernam but Hurst asked me if I could kick with my left foot and run more than 100 yds. in 90 mins.
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Regardless of how much data we have on all the players we signed, it will take some time to assess all the stats from the games we have played. As has been mentioned, the transfer window is still open and it will take about 10 games to assess the strengths and weaknesses of this squad. I'm sure the coaching and analytical systems we have in place will iron out our strengths and weaknesses.


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Our start is deeply concerning, because we've got the most impotent attack in the league after 5 games:



We simply do not create enough goalscoring opportunities, and our start has been masked by by Eisa smashing in 4 worldies, which simply isn't a tactic we can rely on for the rest of the season. Our problem last season was that we actually had quite a good xG rating, but we weren't converting the chances we created due to poor finishing. So far this season we're outperforming xG (good!), but creating very very little in the way of good quality chances, and that's a deep concern.

People are reading too much into the 'quality' of the opponents we've played so far and not paying enough attention to how they've performed in the first 5 games this season. Aside from Wimbledon who've conceded 2 goals in 5 matches, we've played teams who've conceded 9, 7, 8 and 10 goals respectively this season and created absolutely intercourse all against them all. It's a big worry.


9 of those teams above us are below in the League table, which is the one that counts.


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The issue I think for haters of Hurstball is it's looking more pedestrian than ever + the obvious flaw has not been resolved . And even for a Hurst fan it would be hard to disagree

It's very predictable isn't it ?

Are we just the same as last season but with slightly better players ?

I like Hurst , think he is a good manager and a safe pair of hands .

But like Sir Alan is it just a case of it 'going stale ' with him being here such a length of time over his two spells ?

The positive is you always know what you are going to get (barring the odd game )
The negative is you always know what you are going to get

But then it's a case of be careful what you wish for to isn't it .
I suppose time will tell with this to , but will the fans take a season of home games in the same style as last season with a similiar finishing position ?
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August 26, 2023, 6:19pm

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9 of those teams above us are below in the League table, which is the one that counts.



Yes, because we've been fortunate enough that Eisa's scored 4 screamers which have helped us to win and draw a few games. The point I am making and that you are missing is that he is not going to score from 20+ yards regularly, and unless the rest of the team start creating more goalscoring opportunities than they've done in the first five games this season we're going to start falling further down the table.


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Yes, because we've been fortunate enough that Eisa's scored 4 screamers which have helped us to win and draw a few games. The point I am making and that you are missing is that he is not going to score from 20+ yards regularly, and unless the rest of the team start creating more goalscoring opportunities than they've done in the first five games this season we're going to start falling further down the table.


4? Not sure a deflected effort and a finish in the box are screamers😂
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Our start is deeply concerning, because we've got the most impotent attack in the league after 5 games:



We simply do not create enough goalscoring opportunities, and our start has been masked by by Eisa smashing in 4 worldies, which simply isn't a tactic we can rely on for the rest of the season. Our problem last season was that we actually had quite a good xG rating, but we weren't converting the chances we created due to poor finishing. So far this season we're outperforming xG (good!), but creating very very little in the way of good quality chances, and that's a deep concern.

People are reading too much into the 'quality' of the opponents we've played so far and not paying enough attention to how they've performed in the first 5 games this season. Aside from Wimbledon who've conceded 2 goals in 5 matches, we've played teams who've conceded 9, 7, 8 and 10 goals respectively this season and created absolutely intercourse all against them all. It's a big worry.


We seem to have dropped our most creative midfielder. It’s not a shock, is it?
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Is that so? I havent heard the interview so didnt know that- thank you


It was in the Thursday interview.
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Yes, because we've been fortunate enough that Eisa's scored 4 screamers which have helped us to win and draw a few games. The point I am making and that you are missing is that he is not going to score from 20+ yards regularly, and unless the rest of the team start creating more goalscoring opportunities than they've done in the first five games this season we're going to start falling further down the table.


A little be more than fortunate. Cleverly worked the ball to him for him to get the shot away.
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