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arryarryarry
August 12, 2023, 1:52pm
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Quoted from jaygy
I think we sometimes forget when we're in the stands that at league 2 level a majority of the players are not playing for mega bucks, they're just trying to earn an honest wage like the rest of us. I'd be absolutely devastated if someone walked into my office telling me how sh*te I am and how I shouldn't bother turning up again.

It feels like a different story with other teams players though and players expect a level of abuse from opposing fans, it's part of what makes the game special.....but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed.


Not really like working in an office, any criticism would in the main becoming from fans who are paying good money to see you perform.
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Some people just like to moan about anything but if the same comments were made to them they would be outraged.

It's so easy to spout off against a player who will never see you face to face so think on would I like rubbish said to me on social media.

I can understand when many players say they don't use social media anymore.

Not many players are thick skinned and just shrug their shoulders saying its like water running off his back.

They are human and may even have other problems in their life to worry about.


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On the whole, it's not good but It's always been a problem in the UK.  I read Tony Cascarino's autobiography and he was having a bad spell at  Chelsea. He was in a supermarket with his kid and somebody called him something beginning with 'C".  He said that it's fair enough to slag him off but not in front of his family.  When he went to Marseille, he started off badly and people would encourage him when they saw him around time.

Social media has made it easier to have a go. It's very cowardly but it's not exclusive to celebrities.   The kids at my school were having a go at the principal on FB.  Lo and behold, he got canned.  I am not saying that is thedefinitive reason but it could eaisly of being a factor.
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Quoted from DB

Most people at the top of their chosen profession have worked hard, put in the hours and made sacrifices. All I can say is good luck to them and well done.


The players Ive always loved DB be it in football or others sports are those that sacrifice and try to go the extra mile to always want to improve. One that stands out for me in football from years gone by is Stanley Matthews who often trained with a tennis ball and kicked it against the wall and spent lots of time on his own practising  the famous Matthews shimney eg pretending to go one way but then went another to name but just some of things he done .


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No fan expects Maradona every week.
But most fans expect a ten yard pass to be completed by a professional.
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Professional players should be capable of doing the basics correctly like taking throw ins and accurate short passes or crossing a ball into an area.If they consistently can't get those right they shouldn't make the pitch
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Professional players should be capable of doing the basics correctly like taking throw ins and accurate short passes or crossing a ball into an area.If they consistently can't get those right they shouldn't make the pitch


This is what fries my beans, our players must be able to do the basics, they train all week, and if they couldn’t complete a simple ten yard pass to another team mate, surely to god you wouldn’t sign them? So it’s when they cross the white line on a Saturday/Tuesday that everything changes. That must come down to confidence surely? Or faith in the system/tactics? To have the majority of your squad in the building early and a full preseason to train together, they shouldn’t be “rabbits in the headlights” should they?



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Its all down to Hurst at the end of the day. our not so new owners need to get their heads out the sand and tell him his job aint as safe as it could be / Because he is too comfy as he is .
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They are paid to put in the maximum effort for 2/4 hours per week, depending on 1/2 matches. The rest of the time is spent on preparation and training.


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Professional sports people put effort in whether it’s training or a game situation. I’ve had the pleasure of attending training sessions for the likes of City and Liverpool and whilst we all know they don’t fly in to tackles, the intensity and desire to win was still there. It’s about self belief and drive. You have to believe in yourself and if that gets knocked, you struggle.

Happens in all walks of life and professions, for football, at the professional level it’s played out in front of people. The former footballers I’ve worked with have all said that it’s much easier to deal with the higher up you go, mainly because there might be more folk but you can’t ‘see the’ was how they described it whereas BP or Edgely park or wherever on a cold Tuesday, you can see the person really hammering you.

I still think the increased sums of money and TV has created a monster in terms of fans giving players and managers stick. I’m not saying it’s the fault of sky or the premier league because it has always existed but it feels more so now.

We’re two weeks into the season and fans across the country are already on the backs of managers and players, it can’t be healthy, not just for the players but for the folk that are moaning.

They deal with this differently on the continent. Ultras groups and fan groups are vociferous and have huge influence but generally, they will support the side during the game. Their protestations usually fall before by way of protests or after (ignore Genoa v Siena a few years back).

There are occasions mass protests but they usually just refuse to sing or walk out, as Inter did a few years ago. I’ve stood on the Curva Sud at Hellas when they’ve been dreadful, of course the fans were angry and certainly frustrated and to each other they were moaning, but they supported the team throughout the match.

The players knew they’d been excrement, the fans did and the players knew the protests and frustration would come out. Perhaps more viciously than we’d see here but at least during the 90 minutes they supported their team.

We all get frustrated and moan but the way some supporters behave, it’s embarrassing…


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