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Les Brechin
June 16, 2023, 11:10am

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Most likely a 12year old who thinks 70 is old Ron.

Pete aged 75 .


Or someone who's 69 and 364 days old!  


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Or someone who's 69 and 364 days old!  


Happy birthday for tomorrow.



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Happy birthday for tomorrow.



I'm not quite THAT old yet!!


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I'm not quite THAT old yet!!


oops, sorry.


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Would the person who red crossed this post care to explain why?


I red crossed it for the simple reason I don't agree with it.

When you die is decided by fate, by genetics and lifestyle , and if all things considered it was Gordon's time then fair enough. He had a fantastic 70 years, and I've seen parents have a horrid time in the last decade of their lives as I suspect some of us have.

The key is to enjoy your life as you think best whilst you are able, so I don't believe 70 is "no age" when everything is taken into account.
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I red crossed it for the simple reason I don't agree with it.

When you die is decided by fate, by genetics and lifestyle , and if all things considered it was Gordon's time then fair enough. He had a fantastic 70 years, and I've seen parents have a horrid time in the last decade of their lives as I suspect some of us have.

The key is to enjoy your life as you think best whilst you are able, so I don't believe 70 is "no age" when everything is taken into account.



Thanks for explaining. Not sure he had 70 fantastic years given that he had dementia. I somehow doubt he would have been happy to get dementia and die aged 70. Who would?
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Thanks for explaining. Not sure he had 70 fantastic years given that he had dementia. I somehow doubt he would have been happy to get dementia and die aged 70. Who would?








But dementia only gets worse. Would you prefer him to die at 80 having had a worse time just so you don't have say 70 is no age?

Obviously I would prefer it if we lived illness free lives, and were still full of beans at 100 but that's not life, is it?
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But dementia only gets worse. Would you prefer him to die at 80 having had a worse time just so you don't have say 70 is no age?

Obviously I would prefer it if we lived illness free lives, and were still full of beans at 100 but that's not life, is it?


Think you are missing the point. Most people these days live happy and productive lives well into their eighties and beyond. I happen to think that 70 is young to die by today’s standards. Certainly we’ll below average life expectancy.

If you are trying to argue that quality of life is every bit as important as quantity of life then I agree with you. But 70 seems early to me. That’s all I am saying. And there is certainly no need for you to lapse into silly straw man arguments about illness free 100 year olds or me wanting people to suffer on just to justify my post.
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Think you are missing the point. Most people these days live happy and productive lives well into their eighties and beyond. I happen to think that 70 is young to die by today’s standards. Certainly well below average life expectancy.

If you are trying to argue that quality of life is every bit as important as quantity of life then I agree with you. But 70 seems early to me. That’s all I am saying. And there is certainly no need for you to lapse into silly straw man arguments about illness free 100 year olds or me wanting people to suffer on just to justify my post.


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Think you are missing the point. Most people these days live happy and productive lives well into their eighties and beyond. I happen to think that 70 is young to die by today’s standards. Certainly we’ll below average life expectancy.

If you are trying to argue that quality of life is every bit as important as quantity of life then I agree with you. But 70 seems early to me. That’s all I am saying. And there is certainly no need for you to lapse into silly straw man arguments about illness free 100 year olds or me wanting people to suffer on just to justify my post.


Yes quality of life is the important thing so we can agree on that.
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