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Exactly - Parc y Scarlets 15,000 capacity , £23 mill back in 2008. Brilliant facility, it's everything Town could want really, but adjust it for basic inflation (nevermind concrete and steel etc) and that's £34 million today, so probably more like £40million all told. The other advantages there was wealthy benefactors, a council hell bent on delivering a new stadium for the benefit of the area, and a whole retail park being build around it as part of the plan on the edge of town as you come in from Swansea direction and the old ground Stradey park being turned into 400 homes which contributed over £5 mill to the project. I don't see the fates aligning like that for Town unless I win the euromillions on friday and cover the entire costs.
The only advantage we have in Grimsby is the price of the land so much cheaper than most other places in the country |
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We have outgrown BP , I have put on another thread -when we do get through to league 1 we will be in a mess if its as it is now with the numbers the bigger clubs will want to bring and they will be limited to 1200 fans .
I am more and more inclined to think we desperately do need a new ground
Playing Lincoln ,Derby ,Barnsley , Ipswich , Bradford ,Sheff Weds ,Bolton and even Notts County etc .
The doubters who say 'we dont fill BP now ' need to ask themselves the questions -wouldnt we have more than 10k home fans for these games ,and is 1200 tickets enough for these clubs ?
We need 40 million quid somehow and a new stadium .
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I had a dream last night - and it was vivid. I dreamt that Blundell Park was totally rebuilt with the stands being: The New Main Stand; The New Pontoon; The New Findus and the New Osmond. The architecture was brand new but the stands closely monitored the existing structures, but with a greater capacity.
Funny things dreams eh?
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We have outgrown BP , I have put on another thread -when we do get through to league 1 we will be in a mess if its as it is now with the numbers the bigger clubs will want to bring and they will be limited to 1200 fans .
I am more and more inclined to think we desperately do need a new ground
Playing Lincoln ,Derby ,Barnsley , Ipswich , Bradford ,Sheff Weds ,Bolton and even Notts County etc .
The doubters who say 'we dont fill BP now ' need to ask themselves the questions -wouldnt we have more than 10k home fans for these games ,and is 1200 tickets enough for these clubs ?
We need 40 million quid somehow and a new stadium .
In a perfect world I am sure we would all like a new 15k stadium and all that goes with it, but it seems incredibly unlikely in the short, medium and even fairly long term. That leaves us with making the most of what we've got, which in league 2 or even league 1 could be made to work the vast majority of the time. The question then arises what to do, when to do it and how to afford it, but at least BP is our own, on a site big enough if we relocate the car park and generally be creative with the space we've got. It will be very interesting to see what they decide to do. |
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Rotherham received a £5m loan from their council, as well as the stadium being put at the centre of a wider town centre renaissance project. NE Lincs was meant to be swimming with levelling up cash, and you have to question what the Council and local MPs are doing to get their hands on that pot of £4,800,000,000?
I don’t think they will have done, but I hope Stockwood & Petit were in Nici & Vickers’ ears about it when they came for their recent photo op.
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Rotherham received a £5m loan from their council, as well as the stadium being put at the centre of a wider town centre renaissance project. NE Lincs was meant to be swimming with levelling up cash, and you have to question what the Council and local MPs are doing to get their hands on that pot of £4,800,000,000?
I don’t think they will have done, but I hope Stockwood & Petit were in Nici & Vickers’ ears about it when they came for their recent photo op.
I seem to recall that NELC was not helpful several years ago when a vote was taken about Great Coates, several abstained because they had season tickets and others because they went (had been to) matches. The rest voted was against a move. Cllr has distanced the council saying that they don't even own the land at Freemo, LHP do. It would therefore appear that the club may not receive any help from NELC with a new ground, unlike the Rotherham case above. |
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I seem to recall that NELC was not helpful several years ago when a vote was taken about Great Coates, several abstained because they had season tickets and others because they went (had been to) matches. The rest voted was against a move. Cllr has distanced the council saying that they don't even own the land at Freemo, LHP do.
It would therefore appear that the club may not receive any help from NELC with a new ground, unlike the Rotherham case above.
We wont get help from the local council /government, they love to take the photo opportunity sporting the clubs colours when things are going well but thats about all we are going to get . |
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I seem to recall that NELC was not helpful several years ago when a vote was taken about Great Coates, several abstained because they had season tickets and others because they went (had been to) matches. The rest voted was against a move. Cllr has distanced the council saying that they don't even own the land at Freemo, LHP do.
It would therefore appear that the club may not receive any help from NELC with a new ground, unlike the Rotherham case above.
I think you will find that a precedent had been set as regards councillors voting on football ground expansion/developments. When it was proposed to develop Anfield in Liverpool, several councillors were excluded from voting for the proposals because they were ST holders and as such had a vested interest. |
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We wont get help from the local council /government, they love to take the photo opportunity sporting the clubs colours when things are going well but thats about all we are going to get .
Whilst I do have my own disillusion with the NELC council and planning ....its only fair to point out that , as far as I am aware, the club havnt actually had the money, at any point, to move forward on a ground anyway....they have all been speculative proposals that have been put forward. The council have previously stated they wished to help as much as they could but they certainly won't be paying for it. Everything Fenty put forward was based on needing anchor tenants, housing , affiliated developments etc none of which he had lined up. |
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Whilst I do have my own disillusion with the NELC council and planning ....its only fair to point out that , as far as I am aware, the club havnt actually had the money, at any point, to move forward on a ground anyway....they have all been speculative proposals that have been put forward.
The council have previously stated they wished to help as much as they could but they certainly won't be paying for it.
Everything Fenty put forward was based on needing anchor tenants, housing , affiliated developments etc none of which he had lined up.
Certainly no ' ducks in a row ' !!! |
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