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It Bites
March 31, 2023, 7:41am
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I have found it staggering in the main that there has not been more questions asked of this new custodian from them .

Their hate for Swann has blinded them from the reality of the situation it seems .

Their only hope is to shift nearly 2000 season tickets at £2k nearly  ,seems unlikely especially with their upcoming demotion.


Time will tell but the signs were there when he started asking fans for money . Never a good look for a new owner and saviour .
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Their owner is still Mr popular currently in some quarters

I know a few Scunthorpe fans and whilst they don't trust Deans and his alleged shady dealings they seem to trust Hilton implicitly, one told me he has saved the club and he will restore the club to its former glory (whatever that is)
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March 31, 2023, 9:10am

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Their owner is still Mr popular currently in some quarters

I know a few Scunthorpe fans and whilst they don't trust Deans and his alleged shady dealings they seem to trust Hilton implicitly, one told me he has saved the club and he will restore the club to its former glory (whatever that is)


A bit like Donald Trump saying he would " make America great again".


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March 31, 2023, 10:18am
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Their owner is still Mr popular currently in some quarters

I know a few Scunthorpe fans and whilst they don't trust Deans and his alleged shady dealings they seem to trust Hilton implicitly, one told me he has saved the club and he rwill restore the club to its former glory (whatever that is)


Unbelievable Jeff. Their glory years were being unsustainable and “surviving” in the second tier by virtue of players sales and cup runs, the luck obviously ran out sooner rather than later. They then had Swann who basically spent them into near oblivion. I know we punched above our weight during the “glory days” but we were surviving based on a meritocracy and weren’t there by dubious means. The glory days for them are L2, their attendances are barely top half of L2. It’s time they went to regional football and were forgotten about for a while!


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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March 31, 2023, 10:19am

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Maybe Alex May will step in and save them..............
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Unbelievable Jeff. Their glory years were being unsustainable and “surviving” in the second tier by virtue of players sales and cup runs, the luck obviously ran out sooner rather than later. They then had Swann who basically spent them into near oblivion. I know we punched above our weight during the “glory days” but we were surviving based on a meritocracy and weren’t there by dubious means. The glory days for them are L2, their attendances are barely top half of L2. It’s time they went to regional football and were forgotten about for a while!


To be fair, their original glory years (circa 2004 - 2011) were the absolute epitome of sustainability. They developed an unbelievably successful strategy of identifying young, undervalued talent, developing it and selling them on for a massive profit, ad infinitum. Basically what the likes of Brighton and Brentford are doing now, albeit at a lower level of the pyramid.

That was the work of Steve Wharton, whose only (and fatal) mistake was selling the club to Peter Swann in 2013. Put your club allegiance to one side for a moment, and it’s a sad, sad story. Swann, driven by ego and personal greed, took Scunny from literally the pound-for-pound best run club in the country to literally the worst. That’s a special achievement.


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March 31, 2023, 11:14am
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To be fair, their original glory years (circa 2004 - 2011) were the absolute epitome of sustainability. They developed an unbelievably successful strategy of identifying young, undervalued talent, developing it and selling them on for a massive profit, ad infinitum. Basically what the likes of Brighton and Brentford are doing now, albeit at a lower level of the pyramid.

That was the work of Steve Wharton, whose only (and fatal) mistake was selling the club to Peter Swann in 2013. Put your club allegiance to one side for a moment, and it’s a sad, sad story. Swann, driven by ego and personal greed, took Scunny from literally the pound-for-pound best run club in the country to literally the worst. That’s a special achievement.


A sobering thought that almost all football clubs are one bad owner away from being completely copulated. Fan ownership models need to become more common


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March 31, 2023, 12:28pm
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A sobering thought that almost all football clubs are one bad owner away from being completely copulated. Fan ownership models need to become more common


We are one of the few clubs in the unique position of already having fan ownership with Jason & Andrew .

I am not totally against the idea of full 'fan ownership' of clubs , but the smaller clubs if just relying on fans to run and fund the club;  with the current financial  climate ,much like being own bad owner away , clubs would be 1 or 2 bad seasons away from disaster .

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March 31, 2023, 12:48pm

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To be fair, their original glory years (circa 2004 - 2011) were the absolute epitome of sustainability. They developed an unbelievably successful strategy of identifying young, undervalued talent, developing it and selling them on for a massive profit, ad infinitum. Basically what the likes of Brighton and Brentford are doing now, albeit at a lower level of the pyramid.

That was the work of Steve Wharton, whose only (and fatal) mistake was selling the club to Peter Swann in 2013. Put your club allegiance to one side for a moment, and it’s a sad, sad story. Swann, driven by ego and personal greed, took Scunny from literally the pound-for-pound best run club in the country to literally the worst. That’s a special achievement.


Sadly for Scunnie, Wharton had to retire from club ownership due to  ill-health I do believe. Coincidentally Swan had made a right mess at Gainsborough, failed to progress them up the pyramid and the opportunity arose to obtain an established league club with Scunnie.


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March 31, 2023, 2:21pm
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Sadly for Scunnie, Wharton had to retire from club ownership due to  ill-health I do believe. Coincidentally Swan had made a right mess at Gainsborough, failed to progress them up the pyramid and the opportunity arose to obtain an established league club with Scunnie.


Think he was very close to buying into Lincoln, it was before the South African’s involvement, but they were then non league so he switched his sights to Scunny and Lincoln can consider themselves very lucky he never pursued his interest in them.
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