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fishboyUTM
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If we are to play a three man central midfield then there will be injuries and suspensions in that area. We don't have too many options so Harry will play a lot of football there you'd have thought.
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Why do people always talk as if there is a fixed starting eleven throughout the season? Harry has some great attributes, which will be more suited to certain games/opposition than others. It's a squad game and I'm sure he will play an important part.

What's the point in trying to do him down?


You could not be more wrong, Clifton has fitness levels that the rest of the team can only dream of, however, he is not a left winger, get him in the middle is all I am saying


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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby
Why do people always talk as if there is a fixed starting eleven throughout the season? Harry has some great attributes, which will be more suited to certain games/opposition than others. It's a squad game and I'm sure he will play an important part.

What's the point in trying to do him down?


Very well said. Last season, we got promotion because of the squad, not the starting 11. The ability to bring on fresh legs and a different option got us there. This year we have the ability for 5 subs, so I’m expecting, for some games, a lot of changes


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You could not be more wrong, Clifton has fitness levels that the rest of the team can only dream of, however, he is not a left winger, get him in the middle is all I am saying


He lacks that bit of technical ability that a centre mid should have he would be a liability for us in that position. No one is questioning his attitude or his superb work rate  but the truth is footballing ability at this level is questionable. He’s a valued member of the squad and can do lots of jobs for us but running a game from midfield isn’t one of them
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You could not be more wrong, Clifton has fitness levels that the rest of the team can only dream of, however, he is not a left winger, get him in the middle is all I am saying


He’s not a left winger but can play left mid field. If we go to a straight 4-4-2 he’s out of position.

When Maher is fit I think we may well play 3 CB’s so let’s see what if there’s a starting place for Harry.

Could we have a thread about the good things he brings to the team next time please?


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Clifton did a great job out wide on the left last season, he had some fantastic games playing in that position. However it has always felt like a temporary fix to me. I
remember another post saying similar a few weeks ago, but long term playing consistently in that position will not do him any favours.
I can't imagine he sees his long term future as playing there either. If he was left footed maybe, but he isn't.
The best thing for us and himself is for Hurst to start using him in his natural center midfield role. We play 3 in that position and including Kouhri we only have 5 players for that role, so I predict he will get plenty of game time in a more natural position this season. Hurst has mentioned him playing that role on a few occasions this season, so I don't believe Hurst doesn't trust him in that role. I think he was asked to play on the left last season due to weaknesses in the squad, not because he can't play in the centre.
I say all this as a huge Harry fan- personally I don't think we have seen the best of him yet and that will come with a change of position.
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He lacks that bit of technical ability that a centre mid should have he would be a liability for us in that position. No one is questioning his attitude or his superb work rate  but the truth is footballing ability at this level is questionable. He’s a valued member of the squad and can do lots of jobs for us but running a game from midfield isn’t one of them


Maybe you are right but he has played a few decent games in the middle of the park so not sure he’s a liability, I do agree on his technical ability but I think he makes up for that with workrate and attitude. Skilful opponents do not like to play against a physical monster, for example JMD, technically brilliant but Harry would run him into next month, either way I don’t care where he plays but I think we all know it’s a dilemma


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He’s not a left winger but can play left mid field. If we go to a straight 4-4-2 he’s out of position.

When Maher is fit I think we may well play 3 CB’s so let’s see what if there’s a starting place for Harry.

Could we have a thread about the good things he brings to the team next time please?


Listen Mr guardian reader, I was not digging him out. I have posted lots of positives about him. All I am saying is that he is not a left mid or winger. Do you want a hug?


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Easily our most consistent performer. A rare off day for him yesterday, but still put a shift in.  

I've no idea of the stats but I'd imagine he is up there for most efforts on goal and crosses into the box for someone who is not attacking.
In terms of athleticism nobody in our squad can get close to him and his ability to cover the ground and his in your face style should not be underestimated.

He's been very close to being on the scoresheet in the league, shots on target in every game. Hit the post against Northampton and should have been slipped in 1 on 1 three times by Mcatee at Orient.

Huge part of our success and why the system works, criminally underrated.
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Maybe you are right but he has played a few decent games in the middle of the park so not sure he’s a liability, I do agree on his technical ability but I think he makes up for that with workrate and attitude. Skilful opponents do not like to play against a physical monster, for example JMD, technically brilliant but Harry would run him into next month, either way I don’t care where he plays but I think we all know it’s a dilemma


He’s played in the middle a few times and from I’ve seen he’s been overwhelmed I can’t honestly think of a game where he’s dominated the game and took it by the scruff of its neck I honestly can’t. Work rate will take you so far but that killer pass just isn’t there. I still see his value in the squad and would genuinely love him to find that bit extra footballing nous not trying to urine anyone off but it’s my opinion
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