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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sc.....evel-rise-2050s.htmlJust looking at this report it must be time we accepted that the World is not going to act on global warming and our area is one of those most seriously at risk. There are probably still a few climate change deniers on here but for most the need to start thinking about doing something about it is here, It looks like we are willing to spend well over 100 billion for a railway to make it a few minutes quicker from the second biggest to the biggest city in the U.K. but quite happy to potentially let large areas of our country slide into the sea. Blundell Park is perhaps the lowest ground in the country and most at risk. Our local PMs have both quite happily voted to let water companies continue polluting our rivers with out consequences despite the beaches and bathing in our area being a massive asset. It’s easy to say these are just projections and may not come true but if we really care about our kids and grandkids we need to demand better or do we just sit back and watch a disaster unfold in slow motion?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sc.....evel-rise-2050s.htmlJust looking at this report it must be time we accepted that the World is not going to act on global warming and our area is one of those most seriously at risk. There are probably still a few climate change deniers on here but for most the need to start thinking about doing something about it is here, It looks like we are willing to spend well over 100 billion for a railway to make it a few minutes quicker from the second biggest to the biggest city in the U.K. but quite happy to potentially let large areas of our country slide into the sea. Blundell Park is perhaps the lowest ground in the country and most at risk. Our local PMs have both quite happily voted to let water companies continue polluting our rivers with out consequences despite the beaches and bathing in our area being a massive asset. It’s easy to say these are just projections and may not come true but if we really care about our kids and grandkids we need to demand better or do we just sit back and watch a disaster unfold in slow motion?
It was mentioned on the radio last week........it definitely is the lowest ( at a mere 2 feet above sea level )
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There are 2 ways to look at the report 1. Another exaggerated scare story 2. Or It’s just Climate change
Either way ‘thinking about doing something’ will not stop Mother Nature.
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There are 2 ways to look at the report 1. Another exaggerated scare story 2. Or It’s just Climate change
Either way ‘thinking about doing something’ will not stop Mother Nature.
The Netherlands have much of their land below sea level, unlike us they have done something about it and not waited for the whims of mother nature. London has massive barrier on the Thames, we are looking at losing massive areas of farmland and many coastal towns, there is no long term plan because there is no political will to spend the money we need to in unfashionable areas
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Many coastal towns especially the smaller ones have conveniently been forgotten about, I cycled up the East coast a few years ago and there were some towns that I went through that now look like ghost town’s totally neglected. I don’t think rising sea levels would be high on these local community’s investment wish list.
As for raising sea levels in North East Lincs I think we have invested over the years on sea defence, I think you would have to go back to the 70s the last time we suffered a flood from the sea. I would be interested to know how much if any the sea has risen over the years around here, I can’t say there has been much difference that I’ve noticed especially if you look at the sea defence between Wonderland and Suggitts Lane, the level line seem to be the same for as long as I can remember.
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Many coastal towns especially the smaller ones have conveniently been forgotten about, I cycled up the East coast a few years ago and there were some towns that I went through that now look like ghost town’s totally neglected. I don’t think rising sea levels would be high on these local community’s investment wish list.
As for raising sea levels in North East Lincs I think we have invested over the years on sea defence, I think you would have to go back to the 70s the last time we suffered a flood from the sea. I would be interested to know how much if any the sea has risen over the years around here, I can’t say there has been much difference that I’ve noticed especially if you look at the sea defence between Wonderland and Suggitts Lane, the level line seem to be the same for as long as I can remember.
I don't live locally but remember that surge in December 2013? Was there much of an impact then? I was in Hull that night when the Humber overtopped and the flood water encroached in to the city and of course on the south bank, South Ferriby was badly affected I know Immingham Docks had some issues there but I don't recall seeing much about how Cleethorpes and the rest of the coast close to Blundell Park might have been affected?
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December 2013? I wonder if that was the time when the freshney over flooded and half the willows estate went under water. My mum lives in the middle of the estate (quite far from the river!) and it was that bad it came right up to her doorstep. 100s of homes were flooded
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December 2013? I wonder if that was the time when the freshney over flooded and half the willows estate went under water. My mum lives in the middle of the estate (quite far from the river!) and it was that bad it came right up to her doorstep. 100s of homes were flooded
Going slightly off topic now the 2013 flood was due to massively high rainfall when two weeks work of rain fell in just 1 hour, throw in the fact that the willows is built on a flood plain and it was inevitable, but nothing to do with rising sea levels on our coast.
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Going slightly off topic now the 2013 flood was due to massively high rainfall when two weeks work of rain fell in just 1 hour, throw in the fact that the willows is built on a flood plain and it was inevitable, but nothing to do with rising sea levels on our coast.
I think you're getting mixed up with the 2007 floods ( June ) when there was the incessant rain The 2013 incidents ( December ) were caused by the high tide and a surge down the North Sea.... not too dissimilar to the 1953 floods but fortunately not as intense http://www.humbernature.co.uk/admin/resources/1.-susan-manson-and-philip-winn-environment-agency.pdf
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I think you're getting mixed up with the 2007 floods ( June ) when there was the incessant rain The 2013 incidents ( December ) were caused by the high tide and a surge down the North Sea.... not too dissimilar to the 1953 floods but fortunately not as intense http://www.humbernature.co.uk/admin/resources/1.-susan-manson-and-philip-winn-environment-agency.pdf
From Melanie Onn during her Parliament debate on the 7th July 2015 - “We have seen several major flooding incidents over the past few years, several of which have caused huge disruption and devastation to many residents in my constituency, Great Grimsby. In December 2013, the east coast was hit by the largest tidal surge in 60 years. In June and July 2007, Yorkshire and Humberside was the region worst affected by the summer floods, which also affected coastal areas further down the east coast and across the south, as well as many inland areas. That was a consequence of the wettest summer on record . The floods in Grimsby last summer were also the result of exceptionally high rainfall, with some areas getting two weeks’ worth of rainfall in just one hour. Elsewhere, the early 2014 floods in the south-west and areas around the Thames came during the wettest winter on record” Again still nothing to do with rising sea levels, as you’re own link doesn’t mention.
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From Melanie Onn during her Parliament debate on the 7th July 2015 -
“We have seen several major flooding incidents over the past few years, several of which have caused huge disruption and devastation to many residents in my constituency, Great Grimsby. In December 2013, the east coast was hit by the largest tidal surge in 60 years. In June and July 2007, Yorkshire and Humberside was the region worst affected by the summer floods, which also affected coastal areas further down the east coast and across the south, as well as many inland areas. That was a consequence of the wettest summer on record. The floods in Grimsby last summer were also the result of exceptionally high rainfall, with some areas getting two weeks’ worth of rainfall in just one hour. Elsewhere, the early 2014 floods in the south-west and areas around the Thames came during the wettest winter on record”
Again still nothing to do with rising sea levels, as you’re own link doesn’t mention.
Just pointing out that the December 2013 floods were not as a result of heavy rainfall......which wasn't the case in June 2007, when the rain came down and down and down
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But significant increases in rainfall are equally as dangerous and are a result of climate change so I’m not sure what point is being made…
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