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I know someone whose two lads went into the Scunny academy because they had a more professional set up and were higher up the leagues than us at the time.
He lives a 5 minute walk from BP but would drive his kids to Scunthorpe every weekend.
Don't know what the situation is now but we were not an attractive prospect compared to others and the better lads just get hoovered up by those that can offer more.
It's one of the things we need to improve and to be fair I think we are getting better.
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January 27, 2022, 12:58pm |
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I know someone whose two lads went into the Scunny academy because they had a more professional set up and were higher up the leagues than us at the time.
He lives a 5 minute walk from BP but would drive his kids to Scunthorpe every weekend.
Don't know what the situation is now but we were not an attractive prospect compared to others and the better lads just get hoovered up by those that can offer more.
It's one of the things we need to improve and to be fair I think we are getting better.
Tony Gallimore’s son was the same. He’s been semi-regular for their first team recently.
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If kids don't play football then how come they turn into adults who do?
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Sacked off football and became a Police Officer for Humberside Police.
Wow really! That is a surprise.
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Pressure and money are the major factors.
Modern football fans are far less patient with their expectations of success and how long it can take to develop. I blame technology personally, with nearly everything available at the end of your fingers on a mobile phone we're an almost instant society. Shopping without leaving the house, next day delivery, betting, Wikipedia. No more busses and 6 shopping bags per hand, having to find time in your day to get to the bookies or visiting the library to find the information needed on a school project. That mentality has crept into football where we expect everything to be almost instant, results, signings etc. I consider it sort of proven when 5 months into the first full season of the new owners and people are questioning the long term project because we've hit a bump in the short term. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.
With this ever increasing pressure for quick success, managers can't afford to gamble on young, inexperienced and untested players. Unless you're a club with plenty of £££s behind you and can carry youngsters alongside the experienced pro's then they're signed as a token gesture to the youth system but will ultimately be cast aside when their first year pro is up and the cycle repeats.
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Today’s football requires players that can provide ‘instant success ‘ and the youth team players in the club very rarely get the chance to get that opportunity, I too remember the days of the Moore brothers, Drinkell, Wilkinson , Ford and Lund but sadly those days have gone, I’m not even sure who in the town first team squad are local boys but I’m sure someone will tell me.
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January 29, 2022, 12:30am |
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Quoted from 123614
Peter Bore? I was in the Pontoon when he came on as a sub for his debut, and scored twice. Whatever happened to him?
He met Alan Buckley lol. Guy just didn't like him for one reason or another so his chances were limited and he bought in other forwards so Bore dropped to midfield getting limited starts then Buckley tried to force him out on loan but he came back earlier than planned. Then Newell made him a defender and while he did well he became burned out on football and performances suffered. Bounced around local non league teams before a career change. Must suck when you finish your debut season as joint top scorer as a striker then your manager prefers an overweight Nathan Jarman up front lol.
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January 29, 2022, 10:14am |
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He met Alan Buckley lol. Guy just didn't like him for one reason or another so his chances were limited and he bought in other forwards so Bore dropped to midfield getting limited starts then Buckley tried to force him out on loan but he came back earlier than planned. Then Newell made him a defender and while he did well he became burned out on football and performances suffered. Bounced around local non league teams before a career change.
Must suck when you finish your debut season as joint top scorer as a striker then your manager prefers an overweight Nathan Jarman up front lol.
I remember his hat trick against Mansfield on New years day and after that he didn't do much at all did he and times he looked as so he couldn't really be arsed, didn't he then go on trial with league 1 teams or something but didn't get offered anything then he slipped down the leagues, probably he's like Scott Neilson and Dom Vose etc, didn't really have the passion and drive for football.
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Kids do still play football but its generally in organised teams gone are the days when parks would be full of kids playing football with there mates.. jumpers for goalposts..
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Pressure and money are the major factors.
Modern football fans are far less patient with their expectations of success and how long it can take to develop. I blame technology personally, with nearly everything available at the end of your fingers on a mobile phone we're an almost instant society. Shopping without leaving the house, next day delivery, betting, Wikipedia. No more busses and 6 shopping bags per hand, having to find time in your day to get to the bookies or visiting the library to find the information needed on a school project. That mentality has crept into football where we expect everything to be almost instant, results, signings etc. I consider it sort of proven when 5 months into the first full season of the new owners and people are questioning the long term project because we've hit a bump in the short term. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.
With this ever increasing pressure for quick success, managers can't afford to gamble on young, inexperienced and untested players. Unless you're a club with plenty of £££s behind you and can carry youngsters alongside the experienced pro's then they're signed as a token gesture to the youth system but will ultimately be cast aside when their first year pro is up and the cycle repeats.
Their actions that contradict their statements are what deserve questioning, not the expectation of instant success. - building for the future then only make short term signings and loanees. - competitive budget yet can't stump up a bit more for our 2nd best performer of the season to stay. We've not got a big squad. - office staff leaving due to the way they've been treated and the new CEO no way in line with the treating employees with respect mantra. - players to be treated with respect and not just an asset, then tell our longest serving player to pack his bags in January, then tell him he can stay if he wants. - found a movement to say certain things shouldn't be done without fans consultation and then go and change the club's badge like it doesn't apply to them. - CEO picking a pointless argument with another club on twitter. - Put pictures of a new stadium in the press and promise that, then as soon as you take over say we're not doing that any time soon. - Late filing of documents with companies house. It's hardly been a good year for them even if you ignore the on-field shambles.
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