Rumours

Quoted from friskneymariner

Always good for half an hour.

Errr stop messin about 🤣

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Language and words have evolved over the ages.

Many words that you would consider to be very normal and well established English, were once slang and ill thought of speak, that found their way into English language and accepted now as the norm

Yep, that is fact. We all change all the time, it's what we're meant to do. Language too. There's a great Stephen fry video explaining. Utm

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Language and words have evolved over the ages.

Many words that you would consider to be very normal and well established English, were once slang and ill thought of speak, that found their way into English language and accepted now as the norm

Made more evident by street names. Something perfectly acceptable in previous times is now not ok.
For example did you know Love Lane was previously called Gropecunt Lane due to the prostitution that went on down there.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Language and words have evolved over the ages.

Many words that you would consider to be very normal and well established English, were once slang and ill thought of speak, that found their way into English language and accepted now as the norm

Never sure if it is morals or morales. Know anyone who could advise?

Quoted from smokey111

Never sure if it is morals or morales. Know anyone who could advise?

Moral(s) [morul] is to do with good behaviour.

Morale [mor-al] (not really used in the plural in English) is to do with the mood or spirit of a military unit or sports team, or other group of people.

E.G.
John Fenty showed poor moral judgement by introducing a convicted fraudster to GTFC and the council.
Despite the recent relegation, morale is high at GTFC since the departure of John Fenty. 😁

Could of
Should of
Would of

NO!

Could HAVE
Should HAVE
Would HAVE

'going forward' - two utterly wasted words
EG: We are going to do this 'going forward' - well, when else would you do it?

Shop assistants: "Would you like a bag today?"
Me: "No - I'll struggle home with the shopping and come back for the bag tomorrow"

Loads more... rantings of a 60-year-old!

I know this thread has gone vastly off topic, but just to add to the grammar stuff...

The thing I've learnt most over the years, as a writer and former pedant, is to either embrace things just let it go. Yes, there are times when grammar is totally incorrect, and there are spellings I don't personally like (the -ize instead of -ise at the end of words) but a message board isn't the place to pull people up over it.

I'm fascinated by language and how it evolves. The more flexible it is, the more of a future it has. People all around the world speak English — mainly because of our colonial history, but also because it allows us to be more expressive than other languages. That's its real strength.

Take away that ability to play with it, bend it, abuse the so-called rules and you're left with a structured language like Latin, which died off because it was never suitable for the way people would evolve to speak in the future.

The way we speak today is different from the way we spoke hundreds of years ago - even decades ago. Written language needs to evolve with it.

Remember when 'email' had a hyphen? Read a book that was written pre-1940 and 'today' was spelled 'to-day'. Anything that's currently hyphenated e.g. 'free-kick' will probably lose its hyphen in time, like 'straightforward'.

Quoted from RichMariner

I know this thread has gone vastly off topic, but just to add to the grammar stuff...

The thing I've learnt most over the years, as a writer and former pedant, is to either embrace things just let it go. Yes, there are times when grammar is totally incorrect, and there are spellings I don't personally like (the -ize instead of -ise at the end of words) but a message board isn't the place to pull people up over it.

I'm fascinated by language and how it evolves. The more flexible it is, the more of a future it has. People all around the world speak English — mainly because of our colonial history, but also because it allows us to be more expressive than other languages. That's its real strength.

Take away that ability to play with it, bend it, abuse the so-called rules and you're left with a structured language like Latin, which died off because it was never suitable for the way people would evolve to speak in the future.

The way we speak today is different from the way we spoke hundreds of years ago - even decades ago. Written language needs to evolve with it.

Remember when 'email' had a hyphen? Read a book that was written pre-1940 and 'today' was spelled 'to-day'. Anything that's currently hyphenated e.g. 'free-kick' will probably lose its hyphen in time, like 'straightforward'.

Free kick is two words Rich. Needs no hyphen and if joined it surely loses some meaning. Do we join free shot or free hit?  I'm not sure about straight forward being one word either. But I agree about hyphens in general terms, a fairly recent fashion going out of fashion.

Quoted from smokey111

Never sure if it is morals or morales. Know anyone who could advise?

Think whichever one it is ,he’s available for transfer …..😃

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Free kick is two words Rich. Needs no hyphen and if joined it surely loses some meaning. Do we join free shot or free hit?  I'm not sure about straight forward being one word either. But I agree about hyphens in general terms, a fairly recent fashion going out of fashion.

You are right. Got myself confused - meant to say 'kick-off'. You see it with a hyphen, but also as one word.

I wouldn't say that all hyphenated words will lose their hyphen - just those that can 'afford' to. And by that I mean, those that (over time) people choose to drop. You can see the trend. Words like 're-instate' are just 'reinstate'. At the moment, both are acceptable.

My favourite football term is 'resign'. A manager tends to resign but players tend to re-sign. In this example, the hyphen is crucial to the meaning of the term, yet people will happily say Shaun Pearson resigned for us.