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Win good
Entertaining bad
But we move on
If we win every game 1-0 we will win the tournament
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Result wise it was a win and you could say that’s all that was needed today. However I felt we looked so slow and I don’t think you can blame the weather, I think we’ve looked like that for a long time under Southgate. The constant balls backwards and the lack of desire to run at Croatia was painful to watch and has to be something Southgate is encouraging because none of them play like that at club level.

The Trippier decision was the wrong one IMO, he was constantly having to check back onto his right foot (who knew!).
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Result wise it was a win and you could say that’s all that was needed today. However I felt we looked so slow and I don’t think you can blame the weather, I think we’ve looked like that for a long time under Southgate. The constant balls backwards and the lack of desire to run at Croatia was painful to watch and has to be something Southgate is encouraging because none of them play like that at club level.

The Trippier decision was the wrong one IMO, he was constantly having to check back onto his right foot (who knew!).


Amazed by some of the negativity on here. That is the kind of controlled performance which has been inflicted upon England for years. Pickford didn't have a save to make. Mings,  Phillips and Sterling were excellent.

Grealish will get minutes in the next two games as I expect Scotland and Czechoslovkia will put 10 behind the ball. The trickery of Foden and Grealish will be needed.


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If we cobble our way through every game 1-0 we win the tournament and that will do for me. I’d feel just the same about Town staggering out of the NL like that. The idea is to win these things. Expansive football can happen later.


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Amazed by some of the negativity on here. That is the kind of controlled performance which has been inflicted upon England for years. Pickford didn't have a save to make. Mings,  Phillips and Sterling were excellent.

Grealish will get minutes in the next two games as I expect Scotland and Czechoslovkia will put 10 behind the ball. The trickery of Foden and Grealish will be needed.


Agreed, the first goal will be to qualify. If we do that against Scotland I think he'll make wholesale changes against the Czechs (similar to what he did in the World Cup) and then make a decision about a team who he thinks will be a best fit for whoever we face in the knockouts.
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It's a knockout competition, not exhibition games. The first 3 games are group stages and you can lose 1 and still go through. After that it's win, or else you out.

We won our first game and on our way, 1 down 6 to go. If we lose let's criticise but when we win let's be positive. I'm sure Russia, Turkey. Croatia etc. would love to in our position.

So get behind the team, next up Scotland and a win puts us into the knockouts.


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Result wise it was a win and you could say that’s all that was needed today. However I felt we looked so slow and I don’t think you can blame the weather, I think we’ve looked like that for a long time under Southgate. The constant balls backwards and the lack of desire to run at Croatia was painful to watch and has to be something Southgate is encouraging because none of them play like that at club level.

The Trippier decision was the wrong one IMO, he was constantly having to check back onto his right foot (who knew!).


Another way of looking at it is that we just beat the runners up from the last world cup, the team that knocked us out of the tournament. Kind of sounds like a good win when you put it into perspective.
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It’s been rare in tournaments to see England control a game to that extent. Pickford barely had a save to make and the key chances fell to England.

We changed us shape, scored and then sured it back up…Jon done and mission accomplished for me.


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That’s a great win for England and Marxism


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Amazed by some of the negativity on here. That is the kind of controlled performance which has been inflicted upon England for years. Pickford didn't have a save to make. Mings,  Phillips and Sterling were excellent.

Grealish will get minutes in the next two games as I expect Scotland and Czechoslovkia will put 10 behind the ball. The trickery of Foden and Grealish will be needed.


I've no doubt it was a good performance overall but I'm pretty certain we'd need to up the tempo to have any chance at winning the tournament.

It's all about opinions, doesn't make it 'negative'
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