Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Fishy Forum Fishy Boards The New Fishy › Perspective
Moderators: Moderator
Users Browsing Forum

Perspective

  This thread currently has 1,357 views. Print
2 Pages 1 2 Next All Recommend Thread
Withnail
January 23, 2021, 7:10pm
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 206
Posts Per Day: 0.10
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +612
Gold Stars: 4
Right...I'm not trying to mitigate or sugarcoat what was a complete shitshow today, nor the fact that we're in big trouble.

But, now the red mist has lifted after being unfortunate enough to have watched that utter shambles, a number of points, pretty obvious ones admittedly, have dawned on me.

Mainly, despite a humiliating defeat in the local derby, we're not down and out, yet. Southend and Crawley both lost.

We were terrible today but thankfully Hurst recognises and admits as much, so will do his damnedest to address this in what's left of the window. Would I have liked to have seen more activity? Without a shadow of a doubt, but only the right players and not new players for players sake.

I believe Hurst will have read the players the riot act tonight and they'll be under no illusions of what's expected of them. One or two might see their bottom, but that's hard luck. This is a monumental challenge which will separate the men from the boys. Any player whose skin isn't thick enough to take criticism where it's deserved won't be up for the fight so should be invited to walk.

I'm confident Hurst is up for the challenge and that he can secure a couple of game changing players, funds allowing, with one last throw of the dice in the final week of the window.

Key players are coming back, which is also a boon. Ok, Scannell, Wright and Hanson didn't tear up any trees but that was their first starts in how long?

It was a promising debut from Matete (just what we've been missing) although he admittedly faded somewhat second half. Hopefully the other two new signings will get better with improved fitness and knowledge of teammates.

Results haven't improved under Hurst, you could say they're worse, but...he inherited this team. Yes, he's made some signings but they don't know their teammates strengths and weakness and some are not match sharp yet, as mentioned above.

In the heat of the moment some on here are questioning whether Hurst is the man for the job. Whatever your view, he's here until the end of the season, so let's back him to get us out of this mess, which isn't of his making.

If we get a result on Tuesday night against Barrow, then put a run together over the next few games and we climb out of the relegation places, and if our relegation rivals flounder, we could build a cushion.

It's all about confidence and momentum though so rather than bitching with each other and attacking the players and Hurst - when we all know the blame lies at someone else's door - let's back the team and hopefully... hopefully...we might escape the drop and kick on next season.

UTM

Logged Offline
Private Message
arryarryarry
January 23, 2021, 8:30pm
Special Brew Drinker
Posts: 8,180
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 61.11%
Rep Score: +27 / -20
Approval: +8,798
Gold Stars: 4
Quoted from Withnail
Right...I'm not trying to mitigate or sugarcoat what was a complete shitshow today, nor the fact that we're in big trouble.

But, now the red mist has lifted after being unfortunate enough to have watched that utter shambles, a number of points, pretty obvious ones admittedly, have dawned on me.

Mainly, despite a humiliating defeat in the local derby, we're not down and out, yet. Southend and Crawley both lost.

We were terrible today but thankfully Hurst recognises and admits as much, so will do his damnedest to address this in what's left of the window. Would I have liked to have seen more activity? Without a shadow of a doubt, but only the right players and not new players for players sake.

I believe Hurst will have read the players the riot act tonight and they'll be under no illusions of what's expected of them. One or two might see their bottom, but that's hard luck. This is a monumental challenge which will separate the men from the boys. Any player whose skin isn't thick enough to take criticism where it's deserved won't be up for the fight so should be invited to walk.

I'm confident Hurst is up for the challenge and that he can secure a couple of game changing players, funds allowing, with one last throw of the dice in the final week of the window.

Key players are coming back, which is also a boon. Ok, Scannell, Wright and Hanson didn't tear up any trees but that was their first starts in how long?

It was a promising debut from Matete (just what we've been missing) although he admittedly faded somewhat second half. Hopefully the other two new signings will get better with improved fitness and knowledge of teammates.

Results haven't improved under Hurst, you could say they're worse, but...he inherited this team. Yes, he's made some signings but they don't know their teammates strengths and weakness and some are not match sharp yet, as mentioned above.

In the heat of the moment some on here are questioning whether Hurst is the man for the job. Whatever your view, he's here until the end of the season, so let's back him to get us out of this mess, which isn't of his making.

If we get a result on Tuesday night against Barrow, then put a run together over the next few games and we climb out of the relegation places, and if our relegation rivals flounder, we could build a cushion.

It's all about confidence and momentum though so rather than bitching with each other and attacking the players and Hurst - when we all know the blame lies at someone else's door - let's back the team and hopefully... hopefully...we might escape the drop and kick on next season.

UTM



Erm..................we've been terrible most games this season

No it's not, it's about having some quality players, it's about players with the attitude for a fight, it's about players who can create chances, it's about players who can score goals and keep them out at the other end and it's about a manager who can get his team to win games.
Logged
Private Message
Reply: 1 - 15
TownSNAFU5
January 23, 2021, 8:40pm
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,251
Posts Per Day: 1.03
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Location: York
Approval: +4,013
Gold Stars: 1
Hurst has very little to fix the many serious problems and bad attitudes.

We are not an attractive option for getting new players.  Even worse with our league position and non-performances.

Even in the FAC we lost by 2 goals to a team at the bottom of the league below.

We are in the grips of systematic long term failure.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 2 - 15
HertsGTFC
January 23, 2021, 8:42pm

Special Brew Drinker
Posts: 9,326
Posts Per Day: 4.34
Reputation: 73.64%
Rep Score: +23 / -9
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +12,725
Quoted from Withnail
Right...I'm not trying to mitigate or sugarcoat what was a complete shitshow today, nor the fact that we're in big trouble.

But, now the red mist has lifted after being unfortunate enough to have watched that utter shambles, a number of points, pretty obvious ones admittedly, have dawned on me.

Mainly, despite a humiliating defeat in the local derby, we're not down and out, yet. Southend and Crawley[b][/b] both lost.

We were terrible today but thankfully Hurst recognises and admits as much, so will do his damnedest to address this in what's left of the window. Would I have liked to have seen more activity? Without a shadow of a doubt, but only the right players and not new players for players sake.

I believe Hurst will have read the players the riot act tonight and they'll be under no illusions of what's expected of them. One or two might see their bottom, but that's hard luck. This is a monumental challenge which will separate the men from the boys. Any player whose skin isn't thick enough to take criticism where it's deserved won't be up for the fight so should be invited to walk.

I'm confident Hurst is up for the challenge and that he can secure a couple of game changing players, funds allowing, with one last throw of the dice in the final week of the window.

Key players are coming back, which is also a boon. Ok, Scannell, Wright and Hanson didn't tear up any trees but that was their first starts in how long?

It was a promising debut from Matete (just what we've been missing) although he admittedly faded somewhat second half. Hopefully the other two new signings will get better with improved fitness and knowledge of teammates.

Results haven't improved under Hurst, you could say they're worse, but...he inherited this team. Yes, he's made some signings but they don't know their teammates strengths and weakness and some are not match sharp yet, as mentioned above.

In the heat of the moment some on here are questioning whether Hurst is the man for the job. Whatever your view, he's here until the end of the season, so let's back him to get us out of this mess, which isn't of his making.

If we get a result on Tuesday night against Barrow, then put a run together over the next few games and we climb out of the relegation places, and if our relegation rivals flounder, we could build a cushion.

It's all about confidence and momentum though so rather than bitching with each other and attacking the players and Hurst - when we all know the blame lies at someone else's door - let's back the team and hopefully... hopefully...we might escape the drop and kick on next season.

UTM



I take it you mean Stevenage?

You could be forgiven for that as both Town's are sh1t holes.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 3 - 15
Withnail
January 23, 2021, 8:47pm
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 206
Posts Per Day: 0.10
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +612
Gold Stars: 4
Quoted from HertsGTFC


I take it you mean Stevenage?

You could be forgiven for that as both Town's are sh1t holes.


Apologies, Herts, yes, you're absolutely right. I did mean Stevenage.

I've never had the pleasure of visiting Stevenage so couldn't possibly comment on the town 😎
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 4 - 15
HertsGTFC
January 23, 2021, 8:53pm

Special Brew Drinker
Posts: 9,326
Posts Per Day: 4.34
Reputation: 73.64%
Rep Score: +23 / -9
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +12,725
Quoted from Withnail


Apologies, Herts, yes, you're absolutely right. I did mean Stevenage.

I've never had the pleasure of visiting Stevenage so couldn't possibly comment on the town 😎


I’ve lived in both and stand by my original post 😉


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 5 - 15
Withnail
January 23, 2021, 8:59pm
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 206
Posts Per Day: 0.10
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +612
Gold Stars: 4
Quoted from arryarryarry


Erm..................we've been terrible most games this season

No it's not, it's about having some quality players, it's about players with the attitude for a fight, it's about players who can create chances, it's about players who can score goals and keep them out at the other end and it's about a manager who can get his team to win games.


I wouldn't disagree with your first point.

I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet in relation to your second point as well. I said bin the players who aren't prepared to roll up their sleeves and scrap. That has to be a bear minimum. Surely quality players can create chances, score goals and keep them out at the other end?

Can Hurst get the best out of the players? I think the jury is still out. I do hope so though as he's the only person who can save us between now and the end of the season, bar non league being canned.



Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 6 - 15
WayneBurnettsJockstrap
January 23, 2021, 10:36pm

Table Wine Drinker
Posts: 819
Posts Per Day: 2.00
Reputation: 87.77%
Rep Score: +6 / 0
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +40
Gold Stars: 4
Quoted from Withnail
If we get a result on ****** night against ******, then put a run together over the next few games and we climb out of the relegation places, and if our relegation rivals flounder, we could build a cushion.


But how many more times is that scenario going to be hoped for?

We had 5 games against lower placed teams in December.........and failed miserably.

And then the same 5 reverse fixtures in January for which we have sadly failed to get enough points to make any difference.

They were our best realistic chances to pick up some of the easier points of the season and yet we have failed miserably to do so.

Unless Hursty performs a miracle in the next week in signing players who 'want' to play football then any hope of even finding the next win seems a long way away



Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 7 - 15
Grimal
January 23, 2021, 10:50pm
Brandy Drinker
Posts: 2,797
Posts Per Day: 1.06
Reputation: 84.91%
Rep Score: +20 / -3
Approval: +2,530
Quoted from Withnail


Apologies, Herts, yes, you're absolutely right. I did mean Stevenage.

[/b]I've never had the pleasure of visiting Stevenage[b] so couldn't possibly comment on the town 😎

Believe me,it's not a pleasure.

Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 8 - 15
Withnail
January 23, 2021, 11:56pm
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 206
Posts Per Day: 0.10
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +612
Gold Stars: 4


But how many more times is that scenario going to be hoped for?

We had 5 games against lower placed teams in December.........and failed miserably.

And then the same 5 reverse fixtures in January for which we have sadly failed to get enough points to make any difference.

They were our best realistic chances to pick up some of the easier points of the season and yet we have failed miserably to do so.

Unless Hursty performs a miracle in the next week in signing players who 'want' to play football then any hope of even finding the next win seems a long way away



Completely agreed. The stats don't lie. They make for eye wincing reading. We need a miracle.

But... remember Jolley saved our bacon when we looked doomed, as did Groves in the 01/02 season when we were written off by most.

Not guaranteed we'll stay up, obviously, but trying to stay positive.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 9 - 15
2 Pages 1 2 Next All Recommend Thread
Print

Fishy Forum Fishy Boards The New Fishy › Perspective

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread
 

Back to top of page

This is not an official forum of Grimsby Town Football Club, the opinions expressed are those of the individual authors. If you see an offensive post then click "Report" on the relevant post. Posts will be deleted at the discretion of the moderators whose decision is final. Posts should abide by the Forum Rules. IP addresses of contributors together with dates and times of access are stored. The opinions and viewpoints expressed by contributors to The Fishy are their own and not necessarily those of The Fishy. The Fishy makes no claims that information dispersed through this forum is accurate or reliable. Also The Fishy cannot be held liable for any statements made by contributors of The Fishy.