Holloway must come clean

What did he know.

Simple question Holloway, lets have an answer please

Ollie has a team to prepare, which is why he is staying out of it. Don't blame him.

But he is on the board. So he MUST have known.
Why is he immune to any criticism.

He won’t be chuffed , he’s just lost his January transfer budget !!!!!

I see this as important as Day's role, Mr Nice but Eccentric needs to come out and tell us if he knew and if he did I would value his take on it (however disjointed and incomprehensible it is likely to be) Is he totally clean? As a member of the board he can't hide behind the 'I just manage the team' he must have a position on this.

Unless of course he's saving it up as a new excuse ('the thoughts of the team were all all over the place after the May incident') for when Southend beat us tomorrow

Personally never been comfortable with the manager being on the board.. bet he wishes he wasn't now

I’m not fan of Holloway but I think he should be kept out of this. What I’m more concerned about is his repeated claims that we are a well run club. Corner cutting does not equate to being well run.

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

Personally never been comfortable with the manager being on the board.. bet he wishes he wasn't now

Bet he's glad he hasn't put in the money he initially promised yet

Quoted from Ipswin

I see this as important as Day's role, Mr Nice but Eccentric needs to come out and tell us if he knew and if he did I would value his take on it (however disjointed and incomprehensible it is likely to be) Is he totally clean? As a member of the board he can't hide behind the 'I just manage the team' he must have a position on this.

Unless of course he's saving it up as a new excuse ('the thoughts of the team were all all over the place after the May incident') for when Southend beat us tomorrow

Any opportunity eh? Your all over this board like a rash at the moment arent you.

Ollie deserves every ounce of sympathy we can muster having set sail with this owner. He did not seem to understand the mess John Fenty has made of GTFC but absolutely none of it is Ollies fault.

Of course he has had to put the best gloss on it that he can, as he is trying to put the club in the best possible light, but it is vital we do not turn on the manager to turn this into a catastrophe.

In fact I think we should absolutely get behind Ollie and the players more than ever before and retain out league status whilst making every effort to get Fenty and Co. out.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Ollie deserves every ounce of sympathy we can muster having set sail with this owner. He did not seem to understand the mess John Fenty has made of GTFC but absolutely none of it is Ollies fault.

Of course he has had to put the best gloss on it that he can, as he is trying to put the club in the best possible light, but it is vital we do not turn on the manager to turn this into a catastrophe.

In fact I think we should absolutely get behind Ollie and the players more than ever before and retain out league status whilst making every effort to get Fenty and Co. out.

I agree with all of that but surely as a board member Holloway must be asked what he knew about it. I've no doubt he has an opinion too which I don't expect he will be able to state publicly

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Ollie deserves every ounce of sympathy we can muster having set sail with this owner. He did not seem to understand the mess John Fenty has made of GTFC but absolutely none of it is Ollies fault.

Of course he has had to put the best gloss on it that he can, as he is trying to put the club in the best possible light, but it is vital we do not turn on the manager to turn this into a catastrophe.

In fact I think we should absolutely get behind Ollie and the players more than ever before and retain out league status whilst making every effort to get Fenty and Co. out.

I’m sure that, given the opportunity, the fans will express their support of the manager and players in the right way. We need to show him that the real strength of the club is the fan base.

Ollie's focus is the team and I understand that. But from the very start what attracted him to this club was that things would work differently — he'd invest £100k and have a position on the board.

You can't want to be on the board and then have selective hearing. He might be excused for being ignorant of what's been going on around him — maybe he knew, maybe he didn't — but he's not immune from criticism.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If he knew about Fenty's relationship with May, and what financial gain that may have brought, then he is involved.

Quoted from Boris Johnson

What did he know.

Simple question Holloway, lets have an answer please

No he doesn't lets leave him to concentrate on his task on the pitch. Direct your anger (the same i have) at others who deserve it!

Quoted from Mikey_345

No he doesn't lets leave him to concentrate on his task on the pitch. Direct your anger (the same i have) at others who deserve it!

The board of Grimsby Twon Football Club you mean?

Quoted from RichMariner

Ollie's focus is the team and I understand that. But from the very start what attracted him to this club was that things would work differently — he'd invest £100k and have a position on the board.

You can't want to be on the board and then have selective hearing. He might be excused for being ignorant of what's been going on around him — maybe he knew, maybe he didn't — but he's not immune from criticism.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If he knew about Fenty's relationship with May, and what financial gain that may have brought, then he is involved.

I don't think for a minute Fenty would have sat Ollie down and told him he was a business partner of a convicted fraudster of the elderly. You just don't do you?

In the unlikely event Holloway did know, what was he supposed to do about it?  Walk away from a project that he has just started??

Quoted from Ipswin

The board of Grimsby Twon Football Club you mean?

Talking of which, the radio said there was a board meeting this afternoon. I wonder what they chatted about?  

Quoted from Ipswin

The board of Grimsby Twon Football Club you mean?

As well you know there are others who actually have more to do with the running of the club than others. This lays squarely with Fenty and Day - trying to make it something to hit Holloway over the head with is both ridiculous and needless.

Let the fella crack on with his job on the pitch.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Talking of which, the radio said there was a board meeting this afternoon. I wonder what they chatted about?  

Sadly if our reprentatives in the form of the two Trust members still feel morally bound by the confidentiallity clause we will never know

Quoted from Ipswin

Sadly if our reprentatives in the form of the two Trust members still feel morally bound by the confidentiallity clause we will never know

I bet we will!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I bet we will!

Perhaps Holloway will tell us when his tongue starts running away with him again

When Olly was appointed and it was announced he was investing 100k and joining the board my first thought was that there had to be an opportunity to make some money. I believe he is a football man and wanted a greater say in how the club would run but I didn't believe he'd just handover 100k with little or no prospect of getting it back. Just remember he was vocal about not wanting Shutes taking over from JF.

This whole story is getting way out of hand and the muckrakers are having a field day.
To get matters into perspective, this "Alex May" character is not a local person and I doubt that, before this story emerged, anyone had even heard of him or knew of his misdealings. As a convicted con man I also sincerely doubt that he told new acquaintances of his past or his previous name - it wouldn't be good for business! Just how he managed to wheedle his way into current events might be worth investigation, but there is currently no proof that any board members are guilty of anything other than being naive and gullible to the approaches of May. Given the exposure to this episode, I would fully expect May to quietly retreat back now that his record has been publically banded about and he will be lucky if anyone would do business with him. As they say"mud sticks" but we don't want it sticking to GTFC  

Absolutely fuming, why the f@%k is this being used to attack Olly, leave him  too run the team idiots
ive got too ask who the f@%K is this imbecile Boris Johnson that constantly hammers IH at every opportunity,i need too know what hes done to you Boris too make you so hatefull ,did you catch him slamming your mother from behind or something because your bitterness towards him is pathetic, funny how you never comment after a victory, you sad little cockwobble,
What you need too do is jog on ,go support someone else and take the other haters with you ,they now who they are, negative muppets ,
UTFM
Ian Holloways black and white army

We were told the trust members on the board did not know about the dealings with May.

So I expect Ollie did.not know either.

He has better things to do anyway like getting out strikers to shoot straight for one.

Quoted from newarkmariner

Absolutely fuming, why the f@%k is this being used to attack Olly, leave him  too run the team idiots
ive got too ask who the f@%K is this imbecile Boris Johnson that constantly hammers IH at every opportunity,i need too know what hes done to you Boris too make you so hatefull ,did you catch him slamming your mother from behind or something because your bitterness towards him is pathetic, funny how you never comment after a victory, you sad little cockwobble,
What you need too do is jog on ,go support someone else and take the other haters with you ,they now who they are, negative muppets ,
UTFM
Ian Holloways black and white army

Spot on. It makes them feel important. Possibly don’t get listened to a lot in real life...

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Ollie deserves every ounce of sympathy we can muster having set sail with this owner. He did not seem to understand the mess John Fenty has made of GTFC but absolutely none of it is Ollies fault.

Of course he has had to put the best gloss on it that he can, as he is trying to put the club in the best possible light, but it is vital we do not turn on the manager to turn this into a catastrophe.

In fact I think we should absolutely get behind Ollie and the players more than ever before and retain out league status whilst making every effort to get Fenty and Co. out.

What a load of crap, if he is complicit he has to resign, and resign now

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

This whole story is getting way out of hand and the muckrakers are having a field day.
To get matters into perspective, this "Alex May" character is not a local person and I doubt that, before this story emerged, anyone had even heard of him or knew of his misdealings. As a convicted con man I also sincerely doubt that he told new acquaintances of his past or his previous name - it wouldn't be good for business! Just how he managed to wheedle his way into current events might be worth investigation, but there is currently no proof that any board members are guilty of anything other than being naive and gullible to the approaches of May. Given the exposure to this episode, I would fully expect May to quietly retreat back now that his record has been publically banded about and he will be lucky if anyone would do business with him. As they say"mud sticks" but we don't want it sticking to GTFC  

We knew of him and his misdealings a year ago. There was a thread on here about him and it's already been established that JF knew of his past, so I don't why they got involved with him. He'd already tried and failed at other clubs, but seems to have found favour here, yet another misstep by our board, whichever way you look at it.

Quoted from Boris Johnson

What a load of crap, if he is complicit he has to resign, and resign now

I could be wrong, but maybe you have just a tiny bit of an anti-Ollie agenda? You’re ever so subtle so it hardly shows, but there’s just something....

Quoted from newarkmariner

Absolutely fuming, why the f@%k is this being used to attack Olly, leave him  too run the team idiots
ive got too ask who the f@%K is this imbecile Boris Johnson that constantly hammers IH at every opportunity,i need too know what hes done to you Boris too make you so hatefull ,did you catch him slamming your mother from behind or something because your bitterness towards him is pathetic, funny how you never comment after a victory, you sad little cockwobble,
What you need too do is jog on ,go support someone else and take the other haters with you ,they now who they are, negative muppets ,
UTFM
Ian Holloways black and white army

This place has called for full disclosure of what has gone on, and what was known and by whom. There has been nothing but calls for heads to roll. Is it only certain heads?

If he is not complicit all he needs to do is say so.

Quoted from grimsby pete

We were told the trust members on the board did not know about the dealings with May.

So I expect Ollie did.not know either.

He has better things to do anyway like getting out strikers to shoot straight for one.

No we weren't Pete we were told they were bound by a confidentiallity clause which meant they would not have been able to tell their own (trust) board either way

This is not designed to 'have a go' at Holloway (except maybe by 'Boris Johnson') at all I simply want to Know if, as he sits on the board at meetings, he was aware of it or not. Day appears to be getting flack because he clearly knew so why not anyone else who was aware. If he says he didn't know then fair enough and if he says he did know but doesn't want to comment then that is fair enough and understandable too

Quoted from Ipswin

No we weren't Pete we were told they were bound by a confidentiallity clause which meant they would not have been able to tell their own (trust) board either way

This is not designed to 'have a go' at Holloway (except maybe by 'Boris Johnson') at all I simply want to Know if, as he sits on the board at meetings, he was aware of it or not. Day appears to be getting flack because he clearly knew so why not anyone else who was aware. If he says he didn't know then fair enough and if he says he did know but doesn't want to comment then that is fair enough and understandable too

Stand corrected again , I am having a good week.

I must pay more attention .

Quoted from grimsby pete

Stand corrected again , I am having a good week.

I must pay more attention .

Better than Fenty's!  

Anyone who thinks Holloway moved to Grimsby and breezed through like it was the job he had waited his life for are naiive. There is a reason he came and it wasn't the smooth talking of John Fenty and his cronies. It all looked odd at the time. Very clearly this raises the questions that probably will never be answered. But let's be honest I think most of us had some running round our heads. Didn't we?

Quoted from Boris Johnson

This place has called for full disclosure of what has gone on, and what was known and by whom. There has been nothing but calls for heads to roll. Is it only certain heads?

If he is not complicit all he needs to do is say so.

Was you born an idiot or have you been practicing hard.

Quoted from 123614

Was you born an idiot or have you been practicing hard.

Well we appreciate he's an idiot just like his namesake but why can't we ask if Holloway was in the know We are asking / suggesting everyone else in the board room knew so why not him?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Talking of which, the radio said there was a board meeting this afternoon. I wonder what they chatted about?  

The meeting is tonight. In his presser, Olly said he will only discuss football and voice his opinion on the other stuff in the boardroom.

Can’t have it both ways. He’s on the board. He’s got to expect questions about it. He might politely decline to answer them, but hes got to respect the questions.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I don't think for a minute Fenty would have sat Ollie down and told him he was a business partner of a convicted fraudster of the elderly. You just don't do you?

In the unlikely event Holloway did know, what was he supposed to do about it?  Walk away from a project that he has just started??

It might have been him who leaked to the press 😂

We knew of him and his misdealings a year ago. There was a thread on here about him and it's already been [/b[b]]established that JF knew of his past, so I don't why they got involved with him. He'd already tried and failed at other clubs, but seems to have found favour here, yet another misstep by our board, whichever way you look at it.

As you appear to know everything could you please expand on this for those of us who are in the dark. Who established what?

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

We knew of him and his misdealings a year ago. There was a thread on here about him and it's already been [/b[b]]established that JF knew of his past, so I don't why they got involved with him. He'd already tried and failed at other clubs, but seems to have found favour here, yet another misstep by our board, whichever way you look at it.

As you appear to know everything could you please expand on this for those of us who are in the dark. Who established what?

Err....no.

All in the public domain. Find it yourself, it's not difficult.

So Fenty is dealing with dodgy people therefore start a massive witch hunt over everyone involved in the club? First people were attacking the trust members and calling for them to be removed from any seat on the board and now people want the manager gone again.

Why do our fans constantly try to suicide the club back into non league? Not everyone, but it feels like people enjoy trying to remove everyone from the club by harassment and whinging until they get their way, I felt annoyed at comments from Hurst and his team about the fans but looking at it now I see what they mean. The fans constantly refuse to support and raise up the few things they can have any influence over as the business side of the club continues to nuke itself. We now think removing any small influence over the business of the club, the fans having a say and an experienced manager to once again roll the dice as we have many times before is a good idea. Does this group of the fanbase really believe the club is better off without the supporters trust having any influence or IH being sacked and if so, in what way?

There are lots of people screaming to permanent solutions to various issues without any word of what to do after the nuclear option. It's little more than ensured destruction with no light at the end of the tunnel. The last thing I want to see is the manager going to sow more chaos into an already chaotic boardroom, hate on the bad business choices if you want but lets at least believe in the manager and players. We already expect them to love and believe in the club, to give 100% but if we can't even back them up and constantly call for them to leave why should they?

Quoted from Kris2

now people want the manager gone again.

Nobody wants the manager gone at all.

It is simply a matter that, as at least two board members knew clearly for some time what was going on and are quite rightly coming under fire, surely all of them should be asked whether they knew or not and to what extent they knew.

If Holloway is a board member as we are led to believe it is perfectly reasonable to ask him if he was aware just as it was reasonable to ask if the two Trust members of the board knew too

Fenty and Day might well have been driving the thing forward but they couldn't have been the only ones who knew about it

Each and every board member must, at different levels, have been involved in the discussions (and before last night)

Certainly don't want the manager gone over this but if he wants to be on the board he should answer questions raised over running of the club as they all should.

Quoted from Kris2

So Fenty is dealing with dodgy people therefore start a massive witch hunt over everyone involved in the club? First people were attacking the trust members and calling for them to be removed from any seat on the board and now people want the manager gone again.

Why do our fans constantly try to suicide the club back into non league? Not everyone, but it feels like people enjoy trying to remove everyone from the club by harassment and whinging until they get their way, I felt annoyed at comments from Hurst and his team about the fans but looking at it now I see what they mean. The fans constantly refuse to support and raise up the few things they can have any influence over as the business side of the club continues to nuke itself. We now think removing any small influence over the business of the club, the fans having a say and an experienced manager to once again roll the dice as we have many times before is a good idea. Does this group of the fanbase really believe the club is better off without the supporters trust having any influence or IH being sacked and if so, in what way?

There are lots of people screaming to permanent solutions to various issues without any word of what to do after the nuclear option. It's little more than ensured destruction with no light at the end of the tunnel. The last thing I want to see is the manager going to sow more chaos into an already chaotic boardroom, hate on the bad business choices if you want but lets at least believe in the manager and players. We already expect them to love and believe in the club, to give 100% but if we can't even back them up and constantly call for them to leave why should they?

Well said sir, this is exactly what I have been thinking since this all kicked off. It's one thing to rightly have a go at Fenty, but another thing to imply that everyone connected to the club are party to it. Do you all want mass resignations over Fenty's actions? Should the girls in the ticket office resign? Of course not, stop being so ridiculous.

Quoted from Kris2

So Fenty is dealing with dodgy people therefore start a massive witch hunt over everyone involved in the club? First people were attacking the trust members and calling for them to be removed from any seat on the board and now people want the manager gone again.

Why do our fans constantly try to suicide the club back into non league? Not everyone, but it feels like people enjoy trying to remove everyone from the club by harassment and whinging until they get their way, I felt annoyed at comments from Hurst and his team about the fans but looking at it now I see what they mean. The fans constantly refuse to support and raise up the few things they can have any influence over as the business side of the club continues to nuke itself. We now think removing any small influence over the business of the club, the fans having a say and an experienced manager to once again roll the dice as we have many times before is a good idea. Does this group of the fanbase really believe the club is better off without the supporters trust having any influence or IH being sacked and if so, in what way?

There are lots of people screaming to permanent solutions to various issues without any word of what to do after the nuclear option. It's little more than ensured destruction with no light at the end of the tunnel. The last thing I want to see is the manager going to sow more chaos into an already chaotic boardroom, hate on the bad business choices if you want but lets at least believe in the manager and players. We already expect them to love and believe in the club, to give 100% but if we can't even back them up and constantly call for them to leave why should they?

Oh intercourse off.

The fans don't have any say at all in the club. The fans don't decide how the club is run, who is manager, who signs the players. how the club plays. If you haven't noticed sunshine the current team is dragging us towards Non League, take a look at the table.

This "its the fans fault" is complete bullshit.

Anyone who had any involvement in bringing in this shyster to the club should hang their heads in shame and leave the club.

I will be happy if just one man leaves the club the one who pull all the strings of the puppets  Fenty.

Quoted from Kris2

Why do our fans constantly try to suicide the club back into non league?

Mmmm, are these the same fans that dug deep for Operation Promotion, Covid fund, mental health charity? The same fans that have stuck by the club through thick and thin? The same fans who supported the club in their droves during the non league?

There is only one “fan” who seems intent on “suicide the club back into the non league”.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I will be happy if just one man leaves the club the one who pull all the strings of the puppets  Fenty.

I don't want anyone sacrificed Pete I simply want to know how far the cancer had spread and that those tainted however lightly don't assume the 'holier than thou' attitude in what clearly was a filthy business which must have infected the entire board room

Quoted from grimsby pete

I will be happy if just one man leaves the club the one who pull all the strings of the puppets  Fenty.

Anyone associated with this sorry story found to be complicit must go, and that includes Holloway.

If he has nothing to hide, then say so, he's not usually lost for words is he.

Quoted from Boris Johnson

Anyone associated with this sorry story found to be complicit must go, and that includes Holloway.

If he has nothing to hide, then say so, he's not usually lost for words is he.

Holloway has been very vocal that he knows our brilliantly well run club will get a new ground under the current people so he certainly knew something was going on. The question is how much did he know?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Holloway has been very vocal that he knows our brilliantly well run club will get a new ground under the current people so he certainly knew something was going on. The question is how much did he know?

He may have known about new investment and welcomed it, but how on earth is he supposed to know about the background of the May chap?

Fenty is not going to say we've got some new investment Ollie, but its from a convicted crook, is he?

Ollie said he wanted to be on the board to show his willingness to get stuck into a long term project. There is only one man that matters in board affairs and that is the man who has made such a member-up of everything for nearly 20 years. There is only one person really on the board to all intents and purposes, and as soon as he is removed, the rest will slink off.

Ollie is the best hope we have - imagine a future with a new dynamic board, Ollie the manager, fans right behind the club. What a prospect.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

He may have known about new investment and welcomed it, but how on earth is he supposed to know about the background of the May chap?

Fenty is not going to say we've got some new investment Ollie, but its from a convicted crook, is he?

Ollie said he wanted to be on the board to show his willingness to get stuck into a long term project. There is only one man that matters in board affairs and that is the man who has made such a member-up of everything for nearly 20 years. There is only one person really on the board to all intents and purposes, and as soon as he is removed, the rest will slink off.

Ollie is the best hope we have - imagine a future with a new dynamic board, Ollie the manager, fans right behind the club. What a prospect.

So he shouldnt have a problem telling us this then.....should he?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

He may have known about new investment and welcomed it, but how on earth is he supposed to know about the background of the May chap?

If that's the case that's all I want to hear from him, no problem (mind you it would be the shortest speech he has ever made  )
but he has clearly got to be asked.

What is your issue with IH Boris ,your like a dog with a bone ,just f'@5king drop it you sad little idiot ,this horrible vendetta you have is embarrassing, pathetic

and Ipswin ,don't you think hes got bigger fish too fry ,like a football match tonight rather than commenting on something that he probably knew diddly about, your another moaning twit with nothing better to do than batter him at every little opportunity, you've been like a broken record for bloody years now, your boring

Quoted from newarkmariner

What is your issue with IH Boris ,your like a dog with a bone ,just f'@5king drop it you sad little idiot ,this horrible vendetta you have is embarrassing, pathetic

Its funny how the Holloway apologists are happy to accept his role in this, as nothing to be concerned about, yet everyone else should be hung drawn and quartered.

Like ive said if he has nothing to be concerned about, he can come out and say it, and then we can let his managerial ability do the talking.

and Ipswin ,don't you think hes got bigger fish too fry ,like a football match tonight rather than commenting on something that he probably knew diddly about, your another moaning twit with nothing better to do than batter him at every little opportunity, you've been like a broken record for years now, your boring

Quoted from Boris Johnson

Its funny how the Holloway apologists are happy to accept his role in this, as nothing to be concerned about, yet everyone else should be hung drawn and quartered.

Like ive said if he has nothing to be concerned about, he can come out and say it, and then we can let his managerial ability do the talking.

You are just being contrary for the sake of it. I have no idea why you think it is a good idea to have this distraction now. What is to be gained? Fenty is the man we want out, you know the man who is responsible.

Quoted from Boris Johnson

Its funny how the Holloway apologists are happy to accept his role in this, as nothing to be concerned about, yet everyone else should be hung drawn and quartered.

Like ive said if he has nothing to be concerned about, he can come out and say it, and then we can let his managerial ability do the talking.

I believe IH is an honest and extremely decent human being. I can only feel for him at the minute. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He'll be doing the right thing for the fans by concentrating on the football at the minute and I wouldn't blame him if he walked away from this seismic mess for the good of himself and his family. He wouldn't be the first person to be initially sweet talked by Fenty before the veil drops..

Quoted from newarkmariner

and Ipswin ,don't you think hes got bigger fish too fry ,like a football match tonight rather than commenting on something that he probably knew diddly about, your another moaning twit with nothing better to do than batter him at every little opportunity, you've been like a broken record for bloody years now, your boring

Since you've asked me (twice) I don't give a excrement when he's asked, after tonight will be fine but the question has got to be put even you must see that. If you don't you are a bigger fool than I thought. Everyone who sat around that boardroom table needs to answer about how much they knew. Hypocritical to attack just the ones you don't like and avoid the question with others. As I've said if he claims to know intercourse all then that's where it can be left if everyone is satisfied by that.

Put another way, what would your opinion be if he said he knew but wanted the new training facility so would have taken the money? (he won't of course but if he was to say that?)

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I have no idea why you think it is a good idea to have this distraction now. What is to be gained? Fenty is the man we want out, you know the man who is responsible.

Surely it is imperative that we know that all those left standing after this debacle are squeaky clean (sorry to use 'squeaky' Holloway I believe used that term about Fenty but in a different way  ) and that must include all  those who were in the boardroom not just John Fenty

Accept questions have to be asked to all relevant people involved at the appropriate time, however, let’s say this possible investment has been on the boardroom agenda for a few meetings, the crux is were all board members fully aware of May’s background and if they were, did they oppose the investment or support it?

I expect much of these discussions will be private and confidential so the truth may never be known but there may, one would hope, have been some dissenting voices should they be fully aware of the facts. Trouble is which members of the board, including Ollie, would be willing to speak out and confirm their opposition? This would probably be out already in the media if the board members, like a significant number of fans, wanted JF removed but that does not appear to be the case.

Interesting that JF resigned from his Council role because his actions may have been seen as bringing them into disrepute but he doesn’t apply the same criteria to his board position of the club. Maybe this is because the council would have investigated the matter, which they still should to judge his suitability to continue as a Council member, whereas nobody involved with the club is going to say boo to him.

Let’s hope that Knight and his white horse are getting ready to ride down Isaacs Hill and come to our rescue.

It may well be IH not being privy to all and sundry ..just a thought. If that was the case - then the idea sold to him wasn’t accurate, or the personnel involved and he might now be thinking wtf???!


Or if he, and others, were aware of the fellow involved - then perhaps, they didn’t see it as an issue - and, as has been pointed out - it would have gone through if not for the GT and a couple others, and they’d have been happy their plans were still on track.

Either way - it’s not going to end well - one way or another - for a few - and I suspect there’ll be repercussions along the way.  

Unfortunately, it’s probably the supporters who’ll be affected most.

Quoted from marinerjase

It may well be IH not being privy to all and sundry ..just a thought. If that was the case - then the idea sold to him wasn’t accurate, or the personnel involved and he might now be thinking wtf???!

Or if he, and others, were aware of the fellow involved - then perhaps, they didn’t see it as an issue - and, as has been pointed out - it would have gone through if not for the GT and a couple others, and they’d have been happy their plans were still on track.

Either way - it’s not going to end well - one way or another - for a few - and I suspect there’ll be repercussions along the way.  

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It may well be, all possibilities are open, hence my point that the question must be asked of everyone. Why are so many opposed to this? Hasn't enough been swept under the carpet already or are some on the board considered immune? The actions of each and every member who was aware (not just Fenty and Day) reflects badly on the club, hypocritical to think otherwise

Agree completely Swin, think some were more aware of certain personnel than what was let on - the extent of whom - who knows??

Quoted from marinerjase

Agree completely Swin, think some were more aware of certain personnel than what was let on - the extent of whom - who knows??

The bottom line is that any remaining trust in the board has basically been eroded. Whoever leaked to the press has done them up like a kipper to be honest.

Why can't you leave IH out of this? He has enough in his plate trying to prepare the team for tonight's game. Fenty is the one that you should be concentrating your fire on, not the bloody manager. Who knows what and when will come out in due course,  until then, leave Ollie to try to keep this from distracting the team from what is an important game tonight.

At the rate we are going, it's not Fenty himself that will bring down GTFC, but the fans reaction to him and his actions.

Interesting to note that most comments come from a handful of folk either with a vend3tta against Fenty/Holloway or a dislike of the posters with the vendetta.

The rest of us just want a sensible rational discussion. This thread is getting boring.

I would imagine there is a rule that nobody talks about what goes on and said at board meetings.

Of course if Fenty wants to say anything nobody will try and stop him.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I would imagine there is a rule that nobody talks about what goes on and said at board meetings.

Of course if Fenty wants to say anything nobody will try and stop him.

What evidence do you have about this.
I don’t know whether what u say is true but sure as hell I wouldn’t go mouthing off without evidence.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Interesting to note that most comments come from a handful of folk either with a vend3tta against Fenty/Holloway or a dislike of the posters with the vendetta.

The rest of us just want a sensible rational discussion. This thread is getting boring.

Why is everyone so opposed to getting at the truth here? Is everyone afraid of what the answer might be? Or does everyone want it to be just one man who was in the know.

If the manager or anyone else says they didn't know that's an end to it if however they did then surely it needs to come out (unless no one is that bothered about it of course in which case what has all the furore been since Saturday?)

All those sycophants who regard Fenty as the saviour of this club,all those who stand by him whatever,they are the ones that have empowered and embolden him, they are the ones that are culpable.

Quoted from mimma

Why can't you leave IH out of this? He has enough in his plate trying to prepare the team for tonight's game. Fenty is the one that you should be concentrating your fire on, not the bloody manager. Who knows what and when will come out in due course,  until then, leave Ollie to try to keep this from distracting the team from what is an important game tonight.

At the rate we are going, it's not Fenty himself that will bring down GTFC, but the fans reaction to him and his actions.

Oh for felicitations sake will you and all the others with their tongues stuck up John Fenty's bottom stop blaming the fans.

John Fenty probably is the main villain by bringing this criminal into the club as he admitted knowing JF for a couple of years but if any of the other directors were aware of this scumbags history then they should have said no chance do we want him in the club but if they supported his application to buy shares they should hang their heads in shame and intercourse off and that includes all those who knew, even the Trust directors and Ian Holloway if they knew and were prepared to accept his cash.

Think the last man who spouted vile trash and lies and speculation just lost the US President election
All I am asking for is truth and evidence not demented speculation either for or against any Board Member.
It a fundamental part of British justice. Facts please or keep speculation on the back burner

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

All I am asking for is truth and evidence not demented speculation either for or against any Board Member.
It a fundamental part of British justice. Facts please or keep speculation on the back burner

Me too so will some fornicator please ask Ian Holloway if he knew about May's offer of £1m before Saturday. And if he did what was his reaction, for or against it? Simples

there's one very salient point that everyone has missed.

Both Holloway, the 2 Trust members and anyone else on the Board will be bound by confidentiality agreements that would have prevented them from saying anything.
Does anyone know if these agreements still hold true, now that the facts have been revealed?


IMHO someone on the Board leaked this to a reporter who arranged for a photographer to be present on Saturday and subsequently tipped the wink to Lloyd Griffiths

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

What evidence do you have about this.
I don’t know whether what u say is true but sure as hell I wouldn’t go mouthing off without evidence.

The trust has stated their board members are bound by a confidentiality clause, and to be honest it is quite right that all members of the board are bound by such clauses - be that potential investors, signing targets, contracts, pretty much anything.

Loose lips sink ships.

Quoted from Henryscat

The trust has stated their board members are bound by a confidentiality clause, and to be honest it is quite right that all members of the board are bound by such clauses - be that potential investors, signing targets, contracts, pretty much anything.

Loose lips sink ships.

Quite possibly but it is now all out in the open and I would have hoped that those who were aware about his past and accepted the offer of shares from this scumbag and the outcry it has caused would have resigned by now or come out and said they didn't know.