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forza ivano
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The most brutal force in British politics has acted again. The tories are something else when it comes to maintaining their power. Brexit is happening, biden gets elected so our old mate dom becomes a liability and boom! hes gone in a week. Their ruthlessness is something to behold.
So interesting on so many levels.bidens election and the dawning reality that a no deal is disastrous means Doms time is up
I suspect we now get the cuddly loveable london mayor Johnson whose immediate problem is to get over the fact that hes going to roll over and get his tummy tickled on the euro deal. Matthew Paris in the times predicted it months ago. Europe wins and we get brexit in name only.
The whole thing has been an exercise in futility and bidens election is just the final straw.
Never mind we can still wave our union Jack's and pretend weve got our freedom back whilst we know kowtow to the europeans, Americans and chinese, in no particular  order
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Dom’s gone but we’re still left with D.i.ck in da Bungalow.

Or to put it another way. We’ve lost Cain but we’ve still got Unable.


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Johnson bends to the prevailing wind and changes direction yet again. Unprincipled tosser.
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Johnson bends to the prevailing wind and changes direction yet again. Unprincipled tosser.


Perfectly described last night on newsnight 'a shapeshifter'
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Perfectly described last night on newsnight 'a shapeshifter'


Alternatively - someone who knows which side his bread is buttered.

Cummings has been on borrowed time for ages so this is hardly a shock. There is an element of frying pan and fire about the situation though.



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The most brutal force in British politics has acted again. The tories are something else when it comes to maintaining their power. Brexit is happening, biden gets elected so our old mate dom becomes a liability and boom! hes gone in a week. Their ruthlessness is something to behold.
So interesting on so many levels.bidens election and the dawning reality that a no deal is disastrous means Doms time is up
I suspect we now get the cuddly loveable london mayor Johnson whose immediate problem is to get over the fact that hes going to roll over and get his tummy tickled on the euro deal. Matthew Paris in the times predicted it months ago. Europe wins and we get brexit in name only.
The whole thing has been an exercise in futility and bidens election is just the final straw.
Never mind we can still wave our union Jack's and pretend weve got our freedom back whilst we know kowtow to the europeans, Americans and chinese, in no particular  order


I am not sure about the pretend leaving bit. Farage is warming up in the background with his Reform party, and love him or loathe him he will start a civil war in the Tory party if they give ground now.
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I am not sure about the pretend leaving bit. Farage is warming up in the background with his Reform party, and love him or loathe him he will start a civil war in the Tory party if they give ground now.


I thought it was going to be the Anti-Lockdown-I aint wearing no mask-Trump’sarse needs licking Party, or was that last week’s name?


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Perfectly described last night on newsnight 'a shapeshifter'


Wasn’t that someone connected with Biden said?


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Alternatively - someone who knows which side his bread is buttered.

Cummings has been on borrowed time for ages so this is hardly a shock. There is an element of frying pan and fire about the situation though.



Being flexible and knowing which way the wind blows is one thing, but when your interlocutors’ associates start using terms like ‘shapeshifter’ about you, your reputation for trustworthiness is toast.

Those of us who lived in London during Boris’ time as Mayor have been warning people for years. The rest of the country is slowly waking up. The international community already had him sussed.


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Being flexible and knowing which way the wind blows is one thing, but when your interlocutors’ associates start using terms like ‘shapeshifter’ about you, your reputation for trustworthiness is toast.

Those of us who lived in London during Boris’ time as Mayor have been warning people for years. The rest of the country is slowly waking up. The international community already had him sussed.


I was thinking more about his domestic arrangements.



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I am not sure about the pretend leaving bit. Farage is warming up in the background with his Reform party, and love him or loathe him he will start a civil war in the Tory party if they give ground now.


Dont think theyve got much choice  .apparently since bidens win the Europeans have done the equivalent of sinking back into a nice comfy chair, and settled down with a large cigar and glass of port ,awaiting the uk governments cave in.
Wish I could find a link to matthew Parris article , he guessed exactly what the outcome would be
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I was thinking more about his domestic arrangements.



Hmm! Hardly a role model there either 😆


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Seems his domestic arrangements had a part to play in this, with his current squeeze being one of the main factors in DC's departure. Cummings referred to her in a text as 'Princess Nut Nuts'.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/furious-boris-johnson-axed-dominic-23011579

Sounds from the above article that there was a lot of petty squabbling going on behind the scenes, whilst the country went to sh1t. Not very statesmanlike behaviour during a national crisis.

The article also claims that Boris wishes he had fired DC 6 months ago over the Barnard Castle episode. Well no sh1t Sherlock. That changed the attitude of many in the country and was probably as much responsible for the current spike as any other reason in my opinion.

One ace line from the article though, is DC referring to David Davies as 'thick as mince'.  
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I see Cummings has now turned against Boris and the Government big time !!!


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I'm not really digging the whole, "Sorry I was excrement, but did you see what I had to deal with?" vibe of this stuff. Hardly a mea culpa, not that it is meant to be one.

Ultimately, too little too late. We know the government has been utterly excrement throughout the whole affair - a kakistocracy. If Cummings really had anything about him, he'd have done this months ago and we might have avoided another pandemic member up. The delay just allowed them to leave the borders open to India for several weeks too long and things are likely to turn to excrement again because of that.
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The seeds that will provide the canopy for the cover-up were planted in the Downing Street garden last year when the attention shy Cummings hosted a press conference to explain why he’d gone to Barnard Castle during the lockdown. The explanation was in the most part ridiculous and it wasn’t believed to be true by a fair proportion of the public. This allows him to be portrayed as someone of questionable integrity and means that anything he said today can and will be discredited by those he has accused. The self-deprecation is his early self-defence
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As you know I'm neither red nor blue. This latest business just shows what a complete and utter shambles our political governance is.

Decades ago there was, and still is, an official secrets act which as far as I understand governments are supposed to sign up to. The Prime Minister made statements, or a Downing Stree spokesman gave the 'official line' and that was it.

Regardless of parties all governments now have more leaks than a colander. They send out a message and if few people complain then they do it, if it's not popular then they don't. What ever happened to doing the best for the country? instead of running a country on whims.


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The trouble is when a liar at a later date starts to tell you what he knows.

Why should we believe him.

All politicians are the same apart from a handful all out for themselves.

A handful out of 600 mps and double that behind the scenes.

Not good is it ?


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Plenty of people believed Cummings when he masterminded the Brexit campaign, and Boris’ election victory.

If he was a liar last year, and if you think he’s lying now, do you think he was being honest in 2016?


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The trouble is when a liar at a later date starts to tell you what he knows.

Why should we believe him.

All politicians are the same apart from a handful all out for themselves.

A handful out of 600 mps and double that behind the scenes.

Not good is it ?


Which is why I'm neither Red or Blue.



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