The FA Cup

With the season starting later this year, it seems to have come round a lot quicker this year but the draw for the final qualifying round of The FA Cup was made yesterday, with games being played  a week on Saturday and 1st Round games on 7th November,.

Anyone from this lot you fancy, although we'll no doubt get someone boring like Tranmere away! As far as I know the first round isn't regionalised so we could get any of these. Chorley should have played Macclesfield by the way.

1 Darlington v Cambridge City
2 Stafford Rangers v Skelmersdale United
3 Solihull Moors v Wrexham
4 Banbury United v Bury Town
5 South Shields v FA Halifax Town
6 Ilkeston Town v Hartlepool United
7 FC United of Manchester v Guiseley
8 Brackley Town v Marske United
9 Kings Lynn Town v Notts County
10 Stockport County v Chesterfield
11 AFC Fylde v Altrincham
12 Chester v Marine
*Chorley (bye to first round proper)

The South

13 Maidenhead United v Cray Valley (PM)
14 Canvey Island v Cray Wanderers
15 Wealdstone v Hayes & Yeading United
16 Sutton United v Bromley
17 Tonbridge Angels v Taunton Town
18 Hemel Hempsted Town v Hampton & Richmond Borough
19 Aldershot Town v Woking
20 Maldon & Tiptree v Haringey Borough
21 Dagenham & Redbridge v Hartley Wintney
22 Leiston v Barnet
23 Weymouth v Oxford City
24 Eastbourne Borough v Dulwich Hamlet
25 Eastleigh v Weston-Super-Mare
26 Sholing v Torquay United
27 Bath City v Havant & Waterlooville
28 Boreham Wood v Wimborne Town
29 Yeovil Town v Dover Athletic
30 Bishop's Stortford v St Albans City
31 Concord Rangers v Chippenham Town

Don’t suppose it matters who we get or whether home or away if we can’t bloody go

Quoted from Henryscat

Don’t suppose it matters who we get or whether home or away if we can’t bloody go

True.  

In the final qualifying round though, some games can have home and away fans, some games can only have home fans. Some games are not allowed any fans.  

If we play a team below the conference N or S away aren’t they allowed a certain number in ? Possibly get a ticket that way if an exile is living nearby?

Quoted from Henryscat

Don’t suppose it matters who we get or whether home or away if we can’t bloody go

Yeah, the magic of the FA Cup won't be so magic behind closed doors, but hopefully we draw some very beatable teams to get some wonga in the coffers, as prize money for progression is the only way we will get any as things stand. 20 odd grand for first round winners and 30 odd for second round

Watch us get to round 3 and draw Man Utd away.  

Ideally the lowest ranked team left in the competition would do us nicely. Would give Ollie the chance to blood some of his newer players without risking the more senior players

Bury Town (Bury St Edmunds ) away sounds good to me just up the road.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Ideally the lowest ranked team left in the competition would do us nicely. Would give Ollie the chance to blood some of his newer players without risking the more senior players

Something like that could put us on BT Sports live for a bit of cash.

Knowing our luck we wi go on an amazing cup run with all the dream ties away and no fans will be allowed.

If we managed to get to Round 3, that would be £50k in the coffers just for winning 2 games. Not to be sniffed at.
I bet that would cover 2 or 3 weeks wages at least.

Without Googling, does anyone know exactly where Marske,  Hartley Wintney and Sholing are?

Hartley Witney is in Berkshire, or near to it. I remember AFC Wimbledon playing them for n the Combined Counties League in their second season. HW is a very posh village but they had a right bruiser playing centre back - looked like he was out on licence. They  should draw Maldon and Tiptree in the following round got the Jam Derby.

No idea where the others are.

I think Marske is a seaside town somewhere near Middlesbrough. No idea re the other two.

Marske could easily be in the Europa League qualifiers or the FA Cup qualifiers.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Without Googling, does anyone know exactly where Marske,  Hartley Wintney and Sholing are?

I believe that they have an office down the high street and offer excellent legal advice

Think Sholing is near Southampton

Talking of the FA Cup, I was in Wickes, Plough Lane earlier today and wandering around it suddenly struck me I was pretty close to this spot nearly 32 years ago.

Spooky to think Big Keef might have smashed it in from the timber aisle.

https://mobile.twitter.com/onthisGTFCday/status/1097395534434836480

You just know that we’ll finally get Man U away and we won’t benefit from the gate receipts  

Lowest place team please home or away

Quoted from grimps

You just know that we’ll finally get Man U away and we won’t benefit from the gate receipts  

They're not in the first round don't worry

Cray Valley first then after we beat them Cray Wanderers, saves Money in travelling, we could stop over in a tent

Quoted from Les Brechin

Without Googling, does anyone know exactly where Marske,  Hartley Wintney and Sholing are?

Marske is next door to Redcar, and just along from Middlesbrough.

From a financial prospective, a non league team away is the best chance of getting a TV game.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Something like that could put us on BT Sports live for a bit of cash.

I think we all know they’ll pick flipping Salford again

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Marske is next door to Redcar, and just along from Middlesbrough.

Oh yes I remember going there I was going to ask Les where the hell is Sholing that he put on the prediction thread.  

Quoted from Garth

Cray Valley first then after we beat them Cray Wanderers, saves Money in travelling, we could stop over in a tent

Shame there'd be 3 weeks between the games  

Add Sunderland to the televised games

Quoted from grimps

You just know that we’ll finally get Man U away and we won’t benefit from the gate receipts  

The only team I've not seen Town play. It'll be third round draw.

I've been following Town since '57 & they are the only team apart from Harrogate that we have not played in a competitive game in that time. Spooky.
I have seen us in an FA cup game at Old Trafford in that time however - any one remember which one that was?

We played Harrogate in the FA Cup in 2015.

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I have seen us in an FA cup game at Old Trafford in that time however - any one remember which one that was?[/quote]

November 23rd 1964 v Barrow won 2-0 after a 1-1 and a 2-2 Pennington and Sir Matt 9,292

Quoted from Abdul19

We played Harrogate in the FA Cup in 2015.

Plus we played them last month in The EFL Trophy, even though no fans were allowed.

Quoted from Ipswin

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I have seen us in an FA cup game at Old Trafford in that time however - any one remember which one that was?

November 23rd 1964 v Barrow won 2-0 after a 1-1 and a 2-2 Pennington and Sir Matt 9,292[/quote]

Do we hold the highest and lowest attendances at Old Trafford?

Quoted from 140067

The only team I've not seen Town play. It'll be third round draw.

Yeah same with me and I meant when we get to the 3rd round

Quoted from Les Brechin

Plus we played them last month in The EFL Trophy., even though no fans were allowed.

He said competitive game

Quoted from Abdul19

Shame there'd be 3 weeks between the games  

Whoosh!

Away to a northern team in the National League or National League North as I can get in to those games and it is probably the only chance I will get to see us live this season.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Oh yes I remember going there I was going to ask Les where the hell is Sholing that he put on the prediction thread.  

Have family there, not many these days, but I could go and stay with them and go to the game. Oh 😢

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Marske is next door to Redcar, and just along from Middlesbrough.

Strange little town, I seem to remember noticing that it had more funeral directors than pubs.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

Strange little town, I seem to remember noticing that it had more funeral directors than pubs.

Proof positive that drinking doesn’t damage your health
Thanks for that GY

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Away to a northern team in the National League or National League North as I can get in to those games and it is probably the only chance I will get to see us live this season.

No you can't. Spectators aren't allowed at our level.

We have to make do with a live-stream we are selling for each game.

Quoted from AndyDarloFC

No you can't. Spectators aren't allowed at our level.

We have to make do with a live-stream we are selling for each game.

Media 😉

I'm accredited at NL and NLN/S. If it's lower than that I need to buy a ticket and that would be a lottery given the limits and our following.

As it stands at present only matches between seventh tier (eg Northern Premier) or lower clubs will be allowed spectators to attend in the FA Cup.

So if we draw say FC United of Manchester in the 1st round home or away fans (Home & Away) will not be able to attend. But if FC United of Manchester draw Gainsborough Trinity both home and away fans will be allowed in.

It is the highest team that set who can attend not the lowest. This is subject to % of ground capacities.    

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Have family there, not many these days, but I could go and stay with them and go to the game. Oh 😢

I always thought that Sho Ling was a high-class Chinese escort.  

Draw numbers for tomorrow.

1 ACCRINGTON STANLEY

2 AFC WIMBLEDON

3 BARROW

4 BLACKPOOL

5 BOLTON WANDERERS

6 BRADFORD CITY

7 BRISTOL ROVERS

8 BURTON ALBION

9 CAMBRIDGE UNITED

10 CARLISLE UNITED

11 CHARLTON ATHLETIC

12 CHELTENHAM TOWN

13 COLCHESTER UNITED

14 CRAWLEY TOWN

15 CREWE ALEXANDRA

16 DONCASTER ROVERS

17 EXETER CITY

18 FLEETWOOD TOWN

19 FOREST GREEN ROVERS

20 GILLINGHAM

21 GRIMSBY TOWN

22 HARROGATE TOWN

23 HULL CITY

24 IPSWICH TOWN

25 LEYTON ORIENT

26 LINCOLN CITY

27 MANSFIELD TOWN

28 MILTON KEYNES DONS

29 MORECAMBE

30 NEWPORT COUNTY

31 NORTHAMPTON TOWN

32 OLDHAM ATHLETIC

33 OXFORD UNITED

34 PETERBOROUGH UNITED

35 PLYMOUTH ARGYLE

36 PORT VALE

37 PORTSMOUTH

38 ROCHDALE

39 SALFORD CITY

40 SCUNTHORPE UNITED

41 SHREWSBURY TOWN

42 SOUTHEND UNITED

43 STEVENAGE

44 SUNDERLAND

45 SWINDON TOWN

46 TRANMERE ROVERS

47 WALSALL

48 WIGAN ATHLETIC

49 DARLINGTON

50 SKELMERSDALE UNITED

51 SOLIHULL MOORS

52 BANBURY UNITED

53 SOUTH SHIELDS

54 HARTLEPOOL UNITED

55 FC UNITED OF MANCHESTER

56 BRACKLEY TOWN

57 KING'S LYNN TOWN

58 CHESTERFIELD

59 AFC FYLDE OR ALTRINCHAM

60 MARINE

61 CRAY VALLEY (PM)

62 CANVEY ISLAND

63 HAYES & YEADING UNITED

64 BROMLEY

65 TONBRIDGE ANGELS

66 HAMPTON & RICHMOND BOROUGH

67 WOKING

68 MALOON & TIPTREE

69 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE

70 BARNET

71 OXFORD CITY

72 DULWICH HAMLET

73 EASTLEIGH

74 TORQUAY UNITED

75 HAVANT & WATERLOOVILLE

76 BOREHAM WOOD

77 YEOVIL TOWN

78 BISHOP'S STORTFORD OR ST ALBANS CITY

79 CONCORD RANGERS

80 CHORLEY

Just hope were away, cant win at home

Quoted from Les Brechin

Draw numbers for tomorrow.

1 ACCRINGTON STANLEY

2 AFC WIMBLEDON

3 BARROW

4 BLACKPOOL

5 BOLTON WANDERERS

6 BRADFORD CITY

7 BRISTOL ROVERS

8 BURTON ALBION

9 CAMBRIDGE UNITED

10 CARLISLE UNITED

11 CHARLTON ATHLETIC

12 CHELTENHAM TOWN

13 COLCHESTER UNITED

14 CRAWLEY TOWN

15 CREWE ALEXANDRA

16 DONCASTER ROVERS

17 EXETER CITY

18 FLEETWOOD TOWN

19 FOREST GREEN ROVERS

20 GILLINGHAM

21 GRIMSBY TOWN

22 HARROGATE TOWN

23 HULL CITY

24 IPSWICH TOWN

25 LEYTON ORIENT

26 LINCOLN CITY

27 MANSFIELD TOWN

28 MILTON KEYNES DONS

29 MORECAMBE

30 NEWPORT COUNTY

31 NORTHAMPTON TOWN

32 OLDHAM ATHLETIC

33 OXFORD UNITED

34 PETERBOROUGH UNITED

35 PLYMOUTH ARGYLE

36 PORT VALE

37 PORTSMOUTH

38 ROCHDALE

39 SALFORD CITY

40 SCUNTHORPE UNITED

41 SHREWSBURY TOWN

42 SOUTHEND UNITED

43 STEVENAGE

44 SUNDERLAND

45 SWINDON TOWN

46 TRANMERE ROVERS

47 WALSALL

48 WIGAN ATHLETIC

49 DARLINGTON

50 SKELMERSDALE UNITED

51 SOLIHULL MOORS

52 BANBURY UNITED

53 SOUTH SHIELDS

54 HARTLEPOOL UNITED

55 FC UNITED OF MANCHESTER

56 BRACKLEY TOWN

57 KING'S LYNN TOWN

58 CHESTERFIELD

59 AFC FYLDE OR ALTRINCHAM

60 MARINE

61 CRAY VALLEY (PM)

62 CANVEY ISLAND

63 HAYES & YEADING UNITED

64 BROMLEY

65 TONBRIDGE ANGELS

66 HAMPTON & RICHMOND BOROUGH

67 WOKING

68 MALOON & TIPTREE

69 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE

70 BARNET

71 OXFORD CITY

72 DULWICH HAMLET

73 EASTLEIGH

74 TORQUAY UNITED

75 HAVANT & WATERLOOVILLE

76 BOREHAM WOOD

77 YEOVIL TOWN

78 BISHOP'S STORTFORD OR ST ALBANS CITY

79 CONCORD RANGERS

80 CHORLEY

I was desperate for Cray Valley (AM) to make it as I’m a morning person; however, if we draw their afternoon team, I’d accept it!

Quoted from Les Brechin

I always thought that Sho Ling was a high-class Chinese escort.  

Was she any good Les?

Prize fund for The FA Cup

First Round Proper winners (40) £22,629
Second Round Proper winners (20) £34,000
Third Round Proper winners(32) £82,000
Fourth Round Proper winners (16) £90,000
Fifth Round Proper winners (£180,000
Quarter Final winners (4) £360,000
Semi Final losers (2) £450,000
Semi Final winners (2) £900,000
Finalrunners-up (1) £900,000
Final winners (1) £1,800,000

Twice as many southern non league clubs as there are northern teams. Presume they have more money, shows how much of the north is the poor relation generally.

Quoted from dicko995

Just hope were away, cant win at home

Ipswich Lincoln or Hull, lets get it over and done with. No non-league 'easy' game please - remember Chasetown!

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Twice as many southern non league clubs as there are northern teams. Presume they have more money, shows how much of the north is the poor relation generally.

Northen clubs make up about 43% of the football league clubs (depending on what you class as northern). That's pretty incredible since it only makes up 23% of the population of the UK and is less densely populated than the south and midlands.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Twice as many southern non league clubs as there are northern teams. Presume they have more money, shows how much of the north is the poor relation generally.

I wonder how much of that is to do with Covid being more prevalent in the north and southern teams advancing without kicking a ball?

I want a NL or NLN/S team as I have a chance of getting in as press. Other than that though, a really low team at home as it has a good chance of being on TV and the hosting club gets most of the TV money I believe.

Quoted from pen penfras

Northern clubs make up about 43% of the football league clubs (depending on what you class as northern). That's pretty incredible since it only makes up 23% of the population of the UK and is less densely populated than the south and midlands.

I think that’s the built in advantage of being there first*, and goes right back to the foundation of professional football. It seems to be slowly rebalancing. It’d be interesting to see the trend of promotions and relegations to/from the FL since it became automatic.

* ironically new money from oligarchs and global TV audiences is probably slowing down the trend to an balance of football league clubs within England since they are more likely to go for already established clubs, which are disproportionately northern. Sort of like the slow demise of the aristocracy - new money married into it.

I want Hartlepool, a good win to shut Jeff Stelling up.  

Small club away, on TV, large fee.  

So we could get someone like Hull, Lincoln or scunny, and unless we are on telly or win then as there are no fans allowed then we get no money at all. So we don’t want say Plymouth as this would more then likely require an overnight stay,more expenditure, with no income at all.

Dagenham & Redbridge away. Bit of a pain about it being so far away, but pleased to avoid another league club!

Dagenham and Redbridge.

Dagenham & Redbridge away

5th bottom of NL

At least its a team lower than us. Half decent chance of getting to Round 2

TV game anyone?    £££

I don’t think the TV people will have spent much time hovering over that tie with the highlighter.

Quoted from promotion plaice

TV game anyone?    £££

No chance, they're only in the league below. There's loads of other ties involving L1 / L2 sides against much lower ranked opposition.

A few more miles on the bus for the lads but a good chance of a win.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

At least its a team lower than us. Half decent chance of getting to Round 2

A bit like Chasetown you mean  

Nothing like something back firing on a smart bottom. He almost called it right 😉

https://twitter.com/davidbickley94/status/1320032705120227329?s=21

4 guaranteed non-league in Round 2......so something to aim for

Fcuk me - that's 2 teams

Tonbridge vs Bradford and FC United of Manchester against Donny are my guesses for TV games

Quoted from Ipswin

A bit like Chasetown you mean  

You're right of course and that FA Trophy defeat from 9 years ago means we can't possibly beat Dagenham and Redbridge.

That could have been a lot worse.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

You're right of course and that FA Trophy defeat from 9 years ago means we can't possibly beat Dagenham and Redbridge.

I was thinking of the FA Trophy defeat in 2016 and of course we have never beaten Dagenham in 7 attempts

Quoted from Ipswin

I was thinking of the FA Trophy defeat in 2016 and of course we have never beaten Dagenham in 7 attempts

You weren't thinking of Chasetown then.

Been there.....so glad its not a new ground that i am missing out on.

Getting beat in the first round of the FA Trophy in your first season in non-league: Disaster. How will we ever live this down?

Winning the first round game in any other season: Disaster. How are we going to fit all the games in?  

I'm sure it's just an attempt to provide a counterbalance to the not one single poster who has said they expect us to win, let alone assume it.

Quoted from Ipswin

A bit like Chasetown you mean  

Chasetown was in The FA Trophy.

Thankfully, we don't play in that anymore.  

Winnable game, a chance to get 20 odd grand prize money and be in the hat for round 2. Not too bad a draw, not that I'm taking owt for granted.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Chasetown was in The FA Trophy.

Thankfully, we don't play in that anymore.  

No, we just have to suffer the EFL trophy these days!!..🤬

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

No, we just have to suffer the EFL trophy these days!!..🤬

I'd rather be in that than The FA Trophy though.  

So......crowds in the lower levels of football.....just what are the rules they are suppose to follow ?

Watching the Bishop Stortford v Saint Albans now on BT.....plenty of people sat and stood together, long line of people all down the touchline,  not a mask in sight ,  crowd singing and shouting , no real distancing measures evident,  ....but you get to the dugouts and half the team benches are taped off with hazard tape  .

Quoted from moosey_club

So......crowds in the lower levels of football.....just what are the rules they are suppose to follow ?

Watching the Bishop Stortford v Saint Albans now on BT.....plenty of people sat and stood together, long line of people all down the touchline,  not a mask in sight ,  crowd singing and shouting , no real distancing measures evident,  ....but you get to the dugouts and half the team benches are taped off with hazard tape  .

Wont bother us or anybody as crowds are not allowed in the 1st Round no matter who are the teams.

1 thing i have never been sure off is do you get the prize money for each round you win  or just the prize money for the last round you won.......i.e  if we got to round 3 and lost  would we get round 1 and round 2 prize money or just round 2's prize money ????

Need to do something we have never done to reach the 2nd round though, and that's beat Dagenham. They're a bit of a bogey side for us as we've never beaten them in 6 attempts.

Was it Dagenham who had the keeper who did flips and cartwheels when they scored against us?

Quoted from LH

Was it Dagenham who had the keeper who did flips and cartwheels when they scored against us?

Tony Roberts! Loved it when he played, gave loads of banter and took all the banter aimed at him from the Pontoon. 😎
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