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September 29, 2020, 10:37pm

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Bloke were I work is positive. Non of us went home, isolated or shut the place down.
Lucky us commoners carry on because if we didn't the country would run out of food and medication within weeks.
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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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He’s deleted his tweet now but Mike White has suggested on Twitter that the real reason we may be different to the others in our quarantine rules is that we may have ballsed up with our protocols in training...
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He’s deleted his tweet now but Mike White has suggested on Twitter that the real reason we may be different to the others in our quarantine rules is that we may have ballsed up with our protocols in training...


Would anyone be surprised by this?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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He’s deleted his tweet now but Mike White has suggested on Twitter that the real reason we may be different to the others in our quarantine rules is that we may have ballsed up with our protocols in training...


Just read through the training protocols. Clubs with lots of space, numerous anciliary staff, and time through early return for 'embedding' new routines have an advantage. A large car park also helps. The single biggest theme is distance. Lots of 'helpful ' charts to plan the safest drills and a requirement for every session to be logged for inspection by EFL where required. For our small staff at Cheapside it must be a nightmare.

Avoid indoor meetings, assess all staff and players as they arrive, instruct all players about new protocols, leave separately, etc.,etc. Without reading the whole thing in detail, it's difficult to make out how long each stage 1 and 2 last before 11v 11 is allowed and for how long. With Ollie 'flat out like a lizard's tongue' trying to sign his targets it will have put a heavy load on coaching staff.

If we only have one confirmed case, it's difficult to see how a breach of training protocol was the cause per se but to fine or dock points on a technicality would be harsh given the multiple cases elsewhere.
Bradford are baying for blood, claiming that Mr Day is leading a campaign to end the season. Satisfying their thirst, however, could saddle EFL with an awkward precedent. On the one hand they want to ensure the season finishes on time but, on the other, their guidance and protocols are wide open to misinterpretation.
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Just read through the training protocols. Clubs with lots of space, numerous anciliary staff, and time through early return for 'embedding' new routines have an advantage. A large car park also helps. The single biggest theme is distance. Lots of 'helpful ' charts to plan the safest drills and a requirement for every session to be logged for inspection by EFL where required. For our small staff at Cheapside it must be a nightmare.

Avoid indoor meetings, assess all staff and players as they arrive, instruct all players about new protocols, leave separately, etc.,etc. Without reading the whole thing in detail, it's difficult to make out how long each stage 1 and 2 last before 11v 11 is allowed and for how long. With Ollie 'flat out like a lizard's tongue' trying to sign his targets it will have put a heavy load on coaching staff.

If we only have one confirmed case, it's difficult to see how a breach of training protocol was the cause per se but to fine or dock points on a technicality would be harsh given the multiple cases elsewhere.
Bradford are baying for blood, claiming that Mr Day is leading a campaign to end the season. Satisfying their thirst, however, could saddle EFL with an awkward precedent. On the one hand they want to ensure the season finishes on time but, on the other, their guidance and protocols are wide open to misinterpretation.


Good Work Mr Croxton..... surely no “credible professional body” would penalise a club for a safety first approach to a potentially life threatening situation?

Then again I suppose it’s the EFL so they often disregard the “credible” so let’s see...


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Day has made public his desire to cancel the season, could the EFL see us postponing games when others haven't a ploy to throw weight to the cancel the league argument and punish us accordingly?
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I can honestly see a fine/points deduction coming our way. Whether that’s fair Or just is anyone’s guess but I can see it.

We can all argue the contradictions in the guidance and they’re plain as day to see, as they are in anything else, pubs, shops, schools and so on.

I guess with football, it has its own governing body/ruling body and thus, is probably clearly outlined in that what repercussions there are for clubs not fulfilling fixtures...did we seek any legal advice? Did we seek guidance from the league or did we just make the decision?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Just read through the training protocols. Clubs with lots of space, numerous anciliary staff, and time through early return for 'embedding' new routines have an advantage. A large car park also helps. The single biggest theme is distance. Lots of 'helpful ' charts to plan the safest drills and a requirement for every session to be logged for inspection by EFL where required. For our small staff at Cheapside it must be a nightmare.

Avoid indoor meetings, assess all staff and players as they arrive, instruct all players about new protocols, leave separately, etc.,etc. Without reading the whole thing in detail, it's difficult to make out how long each stage 1 and 2 last before 11v 11 is allowed and for how long. With Ollie 'flat out like a lizard's tongue' trying to sign his targets it will have put a heavy load on coaching staff.

If we only have one confirmed case, it's difficult to see how a breach of training protocol was the cause per se but to fine or dock points on a technicality would be harsh given the multiple cases elsewhere.
Bradford are baying for blood, claiming that Mr Day is leading a campaign to end the season. Satisfying their thirst, however, could saddle EFL with an awkward precedent. On the one hand they want to ensure the season finishes on time but, on the other, their guidance and protocols are wide open to misinterpretation.


I’m reading between the lines here but allowing Jock Curran to return to training with the team after mixing with his loan club strikes me as an error and could be what they’re getting at.
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I can honestly see a fine/points deduction coming our way. Whether that’s fair Or just is anyone’s guess but I can see it.

We can all argue the contradictions in the guidance and they’re plain as day to see, as they are in anything else, pubs, shops, schools and so on.

I guess with football, it has its own governing body/ruling body and thus, is probably clearly outlined in that what repercussions there are for clubs not fulfilling fixtures...did we seek any legal advice? Did we seek guidance from the league or did we just make the decision?


Club statement Sept 25th.    'In line with medical advice received from the EFL.......'.  ( Cheltenham call off)

Club statement Sept 28th.    'Following medical advice received from the EFL.......'     ( Bradford and Hull)

Both carefully crafted sentences putting EFL advice before Town's medical advice. Much depends on whether the advice was communicated after the positive test or was just the generic blurb in EFL guidance to all clubs issued months ago.

The EFL will have known the result of Jock Curran's test at the same time as Town under the protocols. Same with Stevenage. If so, they perhaps could have fired off the first email?  

Please don't let Ryan Sparks, Radio Leeds, Stevenage and The Bradford Telegraph and Argus come out smelling of roses here.
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I can honestly see a fine/points deduction coming our way. Whether that’s fair Or just is anyone’s guess but I can see it.

We can all argue the contradictions in the guidance and they’re plain as day to see, as they are in anything else, pubs, shops, schools and so on.

I guess with football, it has its own governing body/ruling body and thus, is probably clearly outlined in that what repercussions there are for clubs not fulfilling fixtures...did we seek any legal advice? Did we seek guidance from the league or did we just make the decision?


I think we should hold our hands up, say we fcked up and volunteer to the EFL that our record to date be expunged as a gesture of goodwill on our part.


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