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ginnywings |
December 24, 2019, 8:09pm |
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Both the trust and JF have asked us for patience with the team. We've been more than patient for years. It's time for some action, on and off the pitch.
Do that and the fans will get behind the team 100%.
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Rik e B |
December 24, 2019, 8:12pm |
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Personally, I'm patient with the team, just impatient with the heirachy.
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KingstonMariner |
December 24, 2019, 10:39pm |
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As Forza says, what else are the Trust to do? Being party to the takeover discussions they'll be alert to shortcomings in the financial case put by Shutes. If they just let any old chancer in they'd be called to kingdom come (and rightly so).
As for being Fenty's yes men. Well, we get the trust we deserve. And if anyone wants it to change direction, instead of sniping from the sidelines, get involved. I'd love it to take a more radical stance. I said this back in 2011 when they set up the referendum to give Fenty 250,000 shares. But it really needs home-based supporters to take it on. If you don't fancy it, then what do you expect?
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gaz57 |
December 25, 2019, 2:07am |
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I think we have the most loyal and patient fans you could find but nothing lasts forever.
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Yoda |
December 25, 2019, 11:00am |
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Most fans would have been in revolution now i don’t know have they have the audacity to tell us to be patient. Clee town for me new year’s day
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rancido |
December 25, 2019, 1:19pm |
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If they have the good of the club at heart I would suggest its very easy. Just tell him goodbye and thanks for nowt.
OK, so JF says he'll write off the loans, sell his shares to whoever wants them, has no involvement with the club, walks totally away and then what? Where is this dynamic new owner with deep pockets willing to take over the club and run it for the benefit of the fans? Who will act as guarantor in the meantime if an owner isn't forthcoming immediately? There are so many concrete proposals on this site on what a lot of posters don't want but not one concrete, practical, legitimate and existing proposal that they do want.
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arryarryarry |
December 25, 2019, 1:29pm |
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OK, so JF says he'll write off the loans, sell his shares to whoever wants them, has no involvement with the club, walks totally away and then what? Where is this dynamic new owner with deep pockets willing to take over the club and run it for the benefit of the fans? Who will act as guarantor in the meantime if an owner isn't forthcoming immediately? There are so many concrete proposals on this site on what a lot of posters don't want but not one concrete, practical, legitimate and existing proposal that they do want.
We don't have a dynamic owner with deep pockets now.
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rancido |
December 25, 2019, 1:41pm |
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We don't have a dynamic owner with deep pockets now.
But you still haven't named a successor or anybody remotely likely as a new owner. The benign loans suggests his pockets are certainly deeper than mine and more than likely yours.
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fishboyUTM |
December 25, 2019, 1:43pm |
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The trust have a member on the board, therefore they are constitutionally required to publicly back any board decision irrespective of their own views. That's my understanding, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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ginnywings |
December 25, 2019, 1:57pm |
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We don't know what terms JF considers acceptable to let go of the reins. He says he won't put the club in jeopardy, but he may be looking for more than outside investors are willing to put In. Does he want all his invested money back for instance? Does he want to remain on the board afterwards? We are told that no one has put their money where their mouth is, but we don't know what he is asking for. Other less attractive clubs get new owners from time to time, but we never seem to get anyone. I get that recent movement is probably down to outside investors looking at the bigger development opportunities that are being bandied about as a wider scheme of development is attracting people over and above just taking over the team. This is not a dig at JF at all because none of us know what acceptable looks like to himself and the rest of the board.
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