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Northbank Mariner
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We could/will possibly be third bottom on saturday (after the Carlisle  loss).

Scunthorpe could then boast of sending us to the bottom of the league.

....or am I just being too much of a defeatist.


The title of the thread is "A reality check"... you've summed it up nicely imo.
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In response to the  question above, my dad went to many games throughout the 1930s.  He told me earlier this year that he particularly remembers the record attendance v Wolves (31,651) which was 1936 I think. (God knows what the queues were like at HT for the toilets).

At the above game, when he was 11, he was selling matches and chocolates to fans in the Barratt Stand.  He had a “tray”, similar to what they used to have in cinemas during the break.

The chocolates came from Betmead’s Chocolate shop, which was near the ground. Betmead was part of our famous trilogy of Hall, Betmead and Buck.

He said that the crowd were so densely-packed in that orders and money were passed down to my dad at the front. The matches or chocolates and change were then passed back up the stand.  Their was a lot of trust then.  He said he made a £100 that day, although this a lot of money for the time.

Selling matches in a wooden stand for all the smokers does not bare thinking about.  These days you could run down to the front of the stand, given the small attendances.

He has died since telling me the above.  I had not heard the story before so it was good to hear.  At least he does not have to put up with the current dire performances.
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Town have been through equally dire patches in their history. The problem the club have now is that there is far more things for people to do on a Saturday so if they drift away they’re lost and so are future generations. The negative effects of social media is also a real threat to the fanbase that weren’t there 50 years ago .
Time to wake up GTFC and back the next manager instead of this penny pinching austerity.


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I think the reality is that all those clubs you mentioned are our future. We are probably on the way to being the next Stockport and tumbling down the leagues, they used to be in the same position as us years ago punching above their weight. We  are looking worse and worse each season, an endless number of players and managers through a revolving door. How many seasons will we barely scrape survival in League Two at the end of the season?

We should probably concentrate on our own problems instead of saying "at least we aren't so and so!".


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I can’t believe our proud club and even prouder fans are prepared to put up with, or worse, to justify our mediocrity. Enough said.
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It would be interesting to know what the board see as a good season.

* operating at break even
* mid table
* decent cup run
* majority share holder pocketing £250k
* selling youth players
* not getting relegated

Genuine question!

The apathy is quite obvious at the moment and there is a huge divide being created between the club and the supporters which needs to be addressed. I know people that are missing games for the first time in years because of what is happening.

It's obvious that the club needs a kick up the bottom at the moment before gates dwindle even more. You can't polish a turd but at least stick some glitter on it  

They may not want to address the elephant in the room, but he's sat there with a pina colada watching on



“To put it in gentleman’s terms if you’ve been out for a night and you’re looking for a young lady and you pull one, some weeks they’re good looking and some weeks they’re not the best. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi. She weren’t the best looking lady we ended up taking home but she was very pleasant and very nice, so thanks very much, let’s have a coffee”
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The board will point to the finances and claim they're doing their job. If only there was a spark of anything there that could stimulate fans, bring back those who no longer attend, but there isn't. Not a sausage.

We're not terminally ill yet, but we're definitely heading for life support without something radical happening. I used to get depressed seeing the results coming in when I got back my adopted team, now I hear them and think that's yet another defeat, and don't even care about it. This club is slowly, but surely, being deprived of the oxygen of life.


No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred of the Tory party. So far as I'm concerned they're lower than vermin. Aneurin Bevan.
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Says so much when you see how few people are on the Fishy...the clubs killing the fans...thus board needs to wake up to the reality of the situation before it's too late...that's if it isn't already for most right now


Fishy fans started dropping away lunch time Feb 21    2018      
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I think the reality is that all those clubs you mentioned are our future. We are probably on the way to being the next Stockport and tumbling down the leagues, they used to be in the same position as us years ago punching above their weight. We  are looking worse and worse each season, an endless number of players and managers through a revolving door. How many seasons will we barely scrape survival in League Two at the end of the season?

We should probably concentrate on our own problems instead of saying "at least we aren't so and so!".


I think what makes it worse for us is that we can all see this eventual doomsday scenario coming if nothing changes soon. I think Stockport, Chesterfield and to some extent York's falls were far more sudden. Both Stockport and Chesterfield went from L1 to the bottom of the conference in a very short time. Seeing how long it took Stockport to get out of the National North is a scary prospect.

We have an owner who openly admits he just wants to get out. Yet at the same time it seems to be taking him forever to find the right non-tyre kicker to sell to.

On the playing side we are getting closer to the relegation zone, we cannot score goals, we have a shaky at best defence, no wingers and have zero confidence. Yet Fenty seemingly is not too bothered about appointing a new manager at all let alone one with sufficent experience and skill which is what we really need right now.

Should history repeat itself and we somehow manage to get relegated again I shudder to think where we will end up, if we will even exist. Maybe it would be for the best, the longer Fenty has been here the less it has felt "my club". In a perverse sort of way getting to be part of a Phoenix Town which would be 100% owned by us supporters sounds appealing to me.
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Things might not be as bad as they seem-A lot of Newport players are down with MUMPS- if Town players had caught mumps at the end of August and this had not been diagnosed it could explain the way Town have been playing. One of the symptoms of mumps is that it feels like your balls are dragging on the ground and this seems to fit Towns symptoms
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