Charles Vernam

Quoted from Croxton

Another cop out from Tondeur. No question about subs. Wes not playing for a contract on that performance. Why take off RHJ? etc. etc.

I thought RHJ was shocking today.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

I thought RHJ was shocking today.

Maybe not the easiest of conditions for him but apart from a brief flourish on Saturday when he came on I don't remember him doing a great deal. We have tremendous competition for places in most positions at the moment and it may require him to get a bit of luck to force his way into the manager's thinking. Looking at the volume of changes made recently no-one's place is guaranteed. I'd put money on him getting a decent crack before the seasons end.

Quoted from barralad

Maybe not the easiest of conditions for him but apart from a brief flourish on Saturday when he came on I don't remember him doing a great deal. We have tremendous competition for places in most positions at the moment and it may require him to get a bit of luck to force his way into the manager's thinking. Looking at the volume of changes made recently no-one's place is guaranteed. I'd put money on him getting a decent crack before the seasons end.

Sorry Ian can`t resist but the competiton can`t be that tremendous if we get stuffed 4-1 by Tranmere sadly .The wheels have come off and the players have downed tools to sit on the beach and the Manager needs to Manage and address that . I am a STH along with 3k others and they are duty bound to give us 100% how many of the 3k along with myself don`t expect to see this at any point during the remainder of the Season? The knock on effects of me being right we have seen numerous times over the years and it will result in poor or sluggish ST sales for next season this then effects the budget and on and on it goes.We deserve better

We are playing the completely wrong system and these in-out performances will continue unless we make changes not just to the personnel but to the tactics. We are not going to get anywhere with the present system so let us change it now with the future in mind. This season is over so let us try something different and see how it goes.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Sorry Ian can`t resist but the competiton can`t be that tremendous if we get stuffed 4-1 by Tranmere sadly .The wheels have come off and the players have downed tools to sit on the beach and the Manager needs to Manage and address that . I am a STH along with 3k others and they are duty bound to give us 100% how many of the 3k along with myself don`t expect to see this at any point during the remainder of the Season? The knock on effects of me being right we have seen numerous times over the years and it will result in poor or sluggish ST sales for next season this then effects the budget and on and on it goes.We deserve better

Yeah I get that but looking on here and social media there was little argument with the XI that started last night. Collins got tons of stick for Saturday...he was dropped. People said Wes and Dennis don't make for a good front two partnership..Dennis relegated to the bench. On Saturday Vernam had a chance to do the business and couldn't. He will get more chances and the need to perform should get more than just him up for the remainder of the games. I couldn't go last night but it sounds as though their goals were down to ridiculous mistakes and that on another day we could have got something from the game. Bit premature to accuse them of being on the beach..

The lad is neither fish nor fowl. Charlie is not a striker, he is not a winger, he is not a midfielder, he’s sort of a bit of all three and master of none. I like him and no doubt the lad has some ability, though he was unlucky with injury last year, but his contribution is not consistent and physical enough especially for L2. There’s a lot of sentiment for him, local lad and all that. We get the usual talk about it. But the proof of the pudding has been that he has not even put in enough good half hours to justify being on the pitch for 90 minutes every week. To be honest I could see him being released at the end of his contract if not before.

I think it's a combination of a few things.

1) He does appear a bit injury prone.  I think it was before Xmas he was in a really good run of form and looking likely to cement his place in the side and then he got injured.  This follows on from countless niggles.  
2) I'm not convinced Jolley trusts him enough to play a midfield role, or a wide role.
3) He's not an out-and-out striker.

In my eyes his natural position should be where Embleton is now.  That said Embleton drops a lot deeper than the traditional No.10 and does a hell of a lot of tracking back and getting stuck in.  I'm not sure that's Vernam's game at all.  

His best form for us came when he was part of that fluid 3 of him, Pringle and Embleton which played behind Thomas.  We're not playing that system now but I think we definitely need to give him a go up top as part of a two.  I would quite like to see a Cook/Vernam pairing if I'm honest.  Dennis hasn't really hit the form we hoped he would and we're probably a bit too focused on Thomas as our focal point.  

Quoted from barralad

Yeah I get that but looking on here and social media there was little argument with the XI that started last night. Collins got tons of stick for Saturday...he was dropped. People said Wes and Dennis don't make for a good front two partnership..Dennis relegated to the bench. On Saturday Vernam had a chance to do the business and couldn't. He will get more chances and the need to perform should get more than just him up for the remainder of the games. I couldn't go last night but it sounds as though their goals were down to ridiculous mistakes and that on another day we could have got something from the game. Bit premature to accuse them of being on the beach..

I think the manager is picking a side to support a system which TBH always baffles me and this may mean that some players may miss out.

Charlie looked good in a front 3 but in a 3-5-2 where would he play and more interestingly who would he replace?

I really like him though as he’s got real pace and defenders find his direct running with the ball at his feet difficult to deal with.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I would quite like to see a Cook/Vernam pairing if I'm honest.  Dennis hasn't really hit the form we hoped he would and we're probably a bit tfocused on Thomas as our focal point.  

I thought Cook and Vernam looked to have a decent understanding at the start of the season but didn't produce much of a goal threat.  Whether that would come with more game time together I'm not sure. I wouldn't want to go into next season with them as our main strikers unless they start firing in the next couple of months.