The First Elbow

How!? How is this not a red. flipping disgusting from O’Connor.      https://mobile.twitter.com/oldcleeful/status/1086886330020364288

Why on earth don't we ask the FA to look at that elbow, surely he deserves at least a retrospective red card and 3 match ban....
Afraid that one incident optimises everything I hate about Lincoln and the Cowley's, cheats, bullies and whingers....even had a chat with one of their fans after the game and they couldn't believe that he and Akinde escaped red cards and that the majority of long standing (, the real) Lincoln fans have no idea how they're top of the league and hate the football under the Cowley's and agreed that if and when they go up they'll do a Plymouth and drop straight back down again under their current Essex boys!!

Don't see that as a red. The guy's looking away up at the ball. His arm comes down naturally. Doesn't look like a deliberate elbow.

Agreed. I was expecting a John Fashanu Gary Mabbutt type incident.

That was deliberate . he know he was there and coming towards him . strait red for me

Looking at that footage ,surprised no one else hasn't noticed that Akinde gets Ohman first quickly followed by O'Connor , 'Surely not pre'planned'

Don't think it was a red card either. Both players looking at the ball and the arm comes down as it would while making a header.

No intention for me and yellow card at very best.

No harm analysing but we need to stop the excuses after loosing a game and think about kicking on with winning the next.

The game has gone soft so maybe people see it as a red depending on age category of the reviewer. In my playing days, that'll be classed as a perfectly good challenge where both players would see it too.

Red all day long. He knew where Ohman was and there was nothing natural about how the right arm chopped down at the last second..

It may be that the slow motion makes it look worse but I think it does look to be a deliberate movement down into his face. Could easily have gone.

Quoted from H19P1

Don't think it was a red card either. Both players looking at the ball and the arm comes down as it would while making a header.

No intention for me and yellow card at very best.

No harm analysing but we need to stop the excuses after loosing a game and think about kicking on with winning the next.

The game has gone soft so maybe people see it as a red depending on age category of the reviewer. In my playing days, that'll be classed as a perfectly good challenge where both players would see it too.

Yellow card at very best!?

Quoted from H19P1

Don't think it was a red card either. Both players looking at the ball and the arm comes down as it would while making a header.

No intention for me and yellow card at very best.

No harm analysing but we need to stop the excuses after loosing a game and think about kicking on with winning the next.

The game has gone soft so maybe people see it as a red depending on age category of the reviewer. In my playing days, that'll be classed as a perfectly good challenge where both players would see it too.

Glad to know that when you played breaking an opponents nose was a fair challenge!!....if you think just because he's looking at the ball doesn't mean it wasn't intentional elbow you need to think again, he knew exactly where Ohman was, I've watched that footage several times now and his elbow doesn't just fall onto Ohmans nose, the cheating thug throws it towards him ...fair challenge my backside and no one's looking for excuses ..we lost the game because we cannot create and cannot score..

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I think he knew what he was doing there. I understand people saying it's naturalarm movement, but in the scenario you swing your arm either when jumping to gain momentum or when trying to get power into a header. His head never even swings for the ball as he pulls out and he's already in the air. You don't have to look at a player when you're up close like that to know exactly were you're elbow is going.

Also his other arm doesn't swing down so violently, only the one aimed at Ohman's head...

someone one day is going to give him a shearers lip, and i bet he falls to the ground squealing like a big girls blouse.. refs need to man up to him and give him some holiday time

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Glad to know that when you played breaking an opponents nose was a fair challenge!!....if you think just because he's looking at the ball doesn't mean it wasn't intentional elbow you need to think again, he knew exactly where Ohman was, I've watched that footage several times now and his elbow doesn't just fall onto Ohmans nose, the cheating thug throws it towards him ...fair challenge my backside and no one's looking for excuses ..we lost the game because we cannot create and cannot score..

I respect your opinion 100%. Breaking noses has never been my style of football just trying to make comparison how soft the game has gone.

It's a 'disguised' elbow smash, line it up, look away. John Fashanu was the master of this.

Quoted from H19P1

I respect your opinion 100%. Breaking noses has never been my style of football just trying to make comparison how soft the game has gone.

The game isn't played with same physicality that much I have to agree with, I played as a keeper to quite a decent level and I know some of the naughtiness I got away with would see me red carded these dats but I never injured someone to the point  where I drew blood or broke bones..
it's going to become a non contact sport at the rate we are going at which would ruin the game completely and also think having a premier League ref didn't help yesterday's game.

When you see some of the soft yellows given out you do wonder how affectivley assaulting someone is on a par.

But hey, Mike Dean Ladies and Gents

Straight red for me as I think there is intent to raise and lead with an elbow which has led to dangerous  contact not sure why Dean bottled it and I’m sure if it had been in the Prem in front of numerous cameras he’d have been off.

This would have gone unpunished 30 odd years ago as would someone leaving their studs on O’Connor’s Achilles later in the game as retribution.Thuggery in part based upon yesterday has been replaced in the game with fakery in my mind both are equally as vile and could be removed with stronger refs who knew the game as well as the rules.  

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Why on earth don't we ask the FA to look at that elbow, surely he deserves at least a retrospective red card and 3 match ban....
Afraid that one incident optimises everything I hate about Lincoln and the Cowley's, cheats, bullies and whingers....even had a chat with one of their fans after the game and they couldn't believe that he and Akinde escaped red cards and that the majority of long standing (, the real) Lincoln fans have no idea how they're top of the league and hate the football under the Cowley's and agreed that if and when they go up they'll do a Plymouth and drop straight back down again under their current Essex boys!!

Wasn't he booked so no further action can be sanctioned??

It doesn't matter how many times you watch it on a video, if you were there you KNOW it was deliberate and should have been a red.

Quoted from Stadium

Wasn't he booked so no further action can be sanctioned??

I believe the FA can upscale it to a red if they believe he was deliberately trying to injure an opponent..and give him a retrospective 3 match ban...
Don't quite me as I could be wrong, going off a conversation I have had with my friend who's an ameteur ref ..who by the way has seen the footage and has agreed it was deliberate movement toward an opponent with his elbow with the intent to cause injury

This was early in the game and clear tactics of 'let them know how physical we will be'.
The Akinde first elbow looks a red to me and the one a second after is debateable.
Its just our luck and had it been the other way around would have surely been a red with the Lincoln mob calling for blood.
Lets move on though as the future looks exciting and positive for our club and on the pitch i feel, all we need is a striker this season now.  Then the odd new addition pre season and we will be good to go for a full on fight for promotion.  UTM

Quoted from Stadium

Wasn't he booked so no further action can be sanctioned??

If so, a shame that doesn't apply to VAR.

Moss and Atkinson would have that as a red.

No doubt this was a deliberate act, of course O'Connor knew Ohman was there, probably thought I'll leave something on him early on.

There's no doubt he knew what he was doing and who was where - you don't just jump in to an aerial challenge with a load of other players like that if you have no clue.

I thought Akinde’s was very naughty as he did it before the ball came in. I’d like to elbow him in the nose. Oh hang on, he hasn’t got one

Quoted from bawarmy

I thought Akinde’s was very naughty as he did it before the ball came in. I’d like to elbow him in the nose. Oh hang on, he hasn’t got one

He traded his actual nose in so that he could have a nose for goal.

I have watched that clip several times and if I was the ref I would have sent him off,

I would also have sent Akinde off,

What did Macca do ?

Their player got up and ran about after although Ohman played on  his nose was broken.

Which was the most dangerous offence ?

If it had been on Bradley Pitches O'Connor would have been carried off 5 minutes later [11 th commandment says " he who doeth have done to him " ]

The first elbow was a definite red all day long, it was deliberate

So as there were more then one elbow incident, and on the same player, does everyone assume it was just a pure coincidence or possibly prearranged in the changing room 20 minutes before kickoff.

Funny reading the Lincoln site. They think by enlarge,definitely no more than yellows for their players, but that Ohman should have been given a second yellow for a foul on Akinde.
Strange how fans see things differently.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Funny reading the Lincoln site. They think by enlarge,definitely no more than yellows for their players, but that Ohman should have been given a second yellow for a foul on Akinde.
Strange how fans see things differently.

Give them time it's all new to a lot of them. UTMM

Quoted from Perkins

It doesn't matter how many times you watch it on a video, if you were there you KNOW it was deliberate and should have been a red.

I was sat pretty much inline with it, looked pretty deliberate to me at the time.

Quoted from Gaffer58

So as there were more then one elbow incident, and on the same player, does everyone assume it was just a pure coincidence or possibly prearranged in the changing room 20 minutes before kickoff.

I'm sure part of the Cowleys' game plan would have been get stuck in to Town's defenders from the off... Öhman's first start ( and Davis just coming back from his time out with concussion ) would clearly be targeted

Whether they sanctioned the actual physical assaults, you could never prove, but I'm certain they'd have been pleased with their players' following their instructions and showing our defence what they are all about ( all aided and abetted of course by the man in the middle )

After sleeping on it I now think the Lincoln fans are correct, and Ohman should have been sent off for deliberately aiming his nose at Akinde's elbow, down right dangerous and needs to be stopped.

Dirty Swedes with them dangerous noses - send em back the lot of em

Quoted from Gaffer58

After sleeping on it I now think the Lincoln fans are correct, and Ohman should have been sent off for deliberately aiming his nose at Akinde's elbow, down right dangerous and needs to be stopped.

I think I'll have to side with them too.... the Stockholm Syndrome I think it's called

I think we were lucky to finish with 10 men, should of been 9. Ohmanneeds to man up and stop going down like a sack of spuds! Lincoln outplayed us without really getting going. Let's face it Lincoln are now the pride of Lincolnshire and a much better team than Grimsby. Two or 3 signings in the summer and maybe, just maybe we can push on too!

Quoted from Horncastle Mariner

I think we were lucky to finish with 10 men, should of been 9. Ohmanneeds to man up and stop going down like a sack of spuds! Lincoln outplayed us without really getting going. Let's face it Lincoln are now the pride of Lincolnshire and a much better team than Grimsby. Two or 3 signings in the summer and maybe, just maybe we can push on too!

Man up, seriously?! I’ll have a few of what your having mate!

Quoted from Horncastle Mariner

I think we were lucky to finish with 10 men, should of been 9. Ohmanneeds to man up and stop going down like a sack of spuds! Lincoln outplayed us without really getting going. Let's face it Lincoln are now the pride of Lincolnshire and a much better team than Grimsby. Two or 3 signings in the summer and maybe, just maybe we can push on too!

I think there will be a fair few Scunny fans who disagree with that sweeping statement

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I think there will be a fair few Scunny fans who disagree with that sweeping statement

'Few' being the operative word.

Quoted from Horncastle Mariner

I think we were lucky to finish with 10 men, should of been 9. Ohmanneeds to man up and stop going down like a sack of spuds! Lincoln outplayed us without really getting going. Let's face it Lincoln are now the pride of Lincolnshire and a much better team than Grimsby. Two or 3 signings in the summer and maybe, just maybe we can push on too!

Can tell it's your first attempt at trolling. Poor effort.