The First Elbow

Quoted from H19P1

Don't think it was a red card either. Both players looking at the ball and the arm comes down as it would while making a header.

No intention for me and yellow card at very best.

No harm analysing but we need to stop the excuses after loosing a game and think about kicking on with winning the next.

The game has gone soft so maybe people see it as a red depending on age category of the reviewer. In my playing days, that'll be classed as a perfectly good challenge where both players would see it too.

Glad to know that when you played breaking an opponents nose was a fair challenge!!....if you think just because he's looking at the ball doesn't mean it wasn't intentional elbow you need to think again, he knew exactly where Ohman was, I've watched that footage several times now and his elbow doesn't just fall onto Ohmans nose, the cheating thug throws it towards him ...fair challenge my backside and no one's looking for excuses ..we lost the game because we cannot create and cannot score..

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I think he knew what he was doing there. I understand people saying it's naturalarm movement, but in the scenario you swing your arm either when jumping to gain momentum or when trying to get power into a header. His head never even swings for the ball as he pulls out and he's already in the air. You don't have to look at a player when you're up close like that to know exactly were you're elbow is going.

Also his other arm doesn't swing down so violently, only the one aimed at Ohman's head...

someone one day is going to give him a shearers lip, and i bet he falls to the ground squealing like a big girls blouse.. refs need to man up to him and give him some holiday time

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Glad to know that when you played breaking an opponents nose was a fair challenge!!....if you think just because he's looking at the ball doesn't mean it wasn't intentional elbow you need to think again, he knew exactly where Ohman was, I've watched that footage several times now and his elbow doesn't just fall onto Ohmans nose, the cheating thug throws it towards him ...fair challenge my backside and no one's looking for excuses ..we lost the game because we cannot create and cannot score..

I respect your opinion 100%. Breaking noses has never been my style of football just trying to make comparison how soft the game has gone.

It's a 'disguised' elbow smash, line it up, look away. John Fashanu was the master of this.

Quoted from H19P1

I respect your opinion 100%. Breaking noses has never been my style of football just trying to make comparison how soft the game has gone.

The game isn't played with same physicality that much I have to agree with, I played as a keeper to quite a decent level and I know some of the naughtiness I got away with would see me red carded these dats but I never injured someone to the point  where I drew blood or broke bones..
it's going to become a non contact sport at the rate we are going at which would ruin the game completely and also think having a premier League ref didn't help yesterday's game.

When you see some of the soft yellows given out you do wonder how affectivley assaulting someone is on a par.

But hey, Mike Dean Ladies and Gents

Straight red for me as I think there is intent to raise and lead with an elbow which has led to dangerous  contact not sure why Dean bottled it and I’m sure if it had been in the Prem in front of numerous cameras he’d have been off.

This would have gone unpunished 30 odd years ago as would someone leaving their studs on O’Connor’s Achilles later in the game as retribution.Thuggery in part based upon yesterday has been replaced in the game with fakery in my mind both are equally as vile and could be removed with stronger refs who knew the game as well as the rules.