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MuddyWaters
November 4, 2018, 1:58pm
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Just remind me how many points from how many games did we get in October with this squad?


And how many did we get in September. We've got 10 points from the last 12 games - those are relegation stats.
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November 4, 2018, 3:56pm
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Even though we're in a worse league position than this time last year, I'm nowhere near as worried about getting relegated as I was then. A bit more bravery and composure on the ball, a couple of tweaks to the starting line up and formation plus a couple of signings in January and we'll be ok. Not that I'd be particularly happy with yet another season in League Two resigned to being relieved with not getting relegated..
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I wish I shared that optimistic view Bigdog but I don't. Unless something radical happens I think relegation or an exceptionally near miss looms. Again. Too many players below par and of a relatively poor quality compared to our L2 rivals.
I have no faith that January is going to bring about a proper investment in quality. That hasn't happened since we were promoted.
Crying shame or a screaming disgrace. Take your pick. To suffer the misery of relegation to the conference and finally get back, and then to accept this perpetual bumping about at the bottom, hoping for survival is appalling, and we will be found out.


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November 4, 2018, 5:04pm

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We are only a couple of decent players away from being a good team,

If we sign them at the start of the window it would make me feel we have the right men,

Sign them last minute would mean we got the 2 nobody else wanted.

I hope Jolley knows who he wants and gets in there first.


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Would be fun to dig up the pre season prediction thread!


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Quoted from Bigdog
Even though we're in a worse league position than this time last year, I'm nowhere near as worried about getting relegated as I was then. A bit more bravery and composure on the ball, a couple of tweaks to the starting line up and formation plus a couple of signings in January and we'll be ok. Not that I'd be particularly happy with yet another season in League Two resigned to being relieved in not getting relegated..


How would you tweak the starting line up? I reckon the 4-3-3 we played in recent games is arguably the best we’ll get with who’s match fit and available.

We haven’t or at least so we’re told got the money for players who have composure on the ball, if we have would a player with that skill sign for a club 69thin the EFL?

Looking at the clubs above us, their resources/ownership, how established they are in L2, their ambitions compared to ours I think to expect anything better than a “low in the division” finish is not realistic I’m afraid.


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How would you tweak the starting line up? I reckon the 4-3-3 we played in recent games is arguably the best we’ll get with who’s match fit and available.

Although we are conceding less goals, we seem to be doing so by protecting the back four too much and stifling our central midfield players from being more expansive and getting beyond our forward(s). I'd be tempted to play Famewo at the back to add a little pace and physicality as a bit more of an insurance against teams breaking against us and release the midfield shackles a bit. I'd try and sign a natural left back on loan in the window and play Hendrie at right back. I would share Clifton's game time with Hessenthaler a bit more to give us a larger percentage of composure on the ball and make sure that Embleton and Vernam are both in the same starting line up more and play closer together. I'd give Pringle a run of games on the left, look to find a goalscorer in the window from somewhere and give Akheem Rose more minutes if we're chasing games just to see if his raw pace can unsettle defences, it's what defenders fear most. A mix of 4-4-1-1 or 4-3-3..

We haven’t or at least so we’re told got the money for players who have composure on the ball, if we have would a player with that skill sign for a club 69thin the EFL?

Players a lot lower than League Two have got composure on the ball. I think it's a mental thing with some of our players who are too scared to get caught in possession. They get rid of the ball too quickly rather than drawing an opponent out of the game and give up possession anyway with panicky passing at times. It's not only that though, our movement off the ball isn't great and I'm not sure whether they're playing to rigid instructions or just lack confidence in wanting the ball.  We need to be braver in possession in tight areas.

Looking at the clubs above us, their resources/ownership, how established they are in L2, their ambitions compared to ours I think to expect anything better than a “low in the division” finish is not realistic I’m afraid.

Know what you mean about expectation, but I've not been impressed with too many teams we've played this season. There's fine margins between being a lower mid-table side and one that sneaks into the play-offs imo. I don't have anything but vain hope and a mountain of frustration for us really. Didn't see the Port Vale and Colchester games and have only really been excited watching about three games this season. Us hanging on against MK Dons and Carlisle and the Lincoln game at home. Only a third of the season in and already questioning whether I'd renew i-Follow next season. Sad state of affairs after supporting GTFC for 45 years but I'm really bored to tears with the standard of football and amount of mind-numbingly boring games I've watched since getting back into the league. Can't see it changing unless there's a wholesale change at the club and I can't see that changing either. Supporting and watching Town is a chore like habit rather than entertainment nowadays. Fully realistic about where we are and the limitations holding the club back, but no harm in hoping or demanding for better.. probably..


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The whole Pringle saga demonstrates that we are shopping in the damaged goods area of footballs IKEA. OOOH thats a nice sideboard but it's got a few scratches and a wobbly leg. After a few months in the garage, a bit of polish and some superglue, good as new!  


I’ve missed something here. What’s the whole Pringle saga?


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I’ve missed something here. What’s the whole Pringle saga?


Just that it has taken an age to get him fit and integrated in the squad when our need for a wide player to feed our forwards with quality crosses has been obvious for months. Perhaps he has had injuries and Preston want rid, I don't know but each team we play seem to have pacy athletic wingers and more on the bench if required.
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It's not as bad as some we've had. I am down with this team.


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