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Bigdog
October 2, 2018, 1:49pm
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Hypothetically speaking, if senior players don't buy in, they should (after discussing it with the manager), shut the intercourse up and do their best to follow the plan. If they don't like it they should urine off at the next available opportunity. I'd resent paying to see players not doing their best.


I agree, but the sad fact is that they are doing the best their bodies can and taking their final wage packet off GTFC before they hang their boots up..

Welsh would have been enough for us this season, but to not get rid of Dixon, non-trier, no bottle Hooper and sign up Woolford and Collins who were poor last season was criminal. Said so in the summer. I've never known a club sign so many knackered slow carthorses in such a short space of time and then the manager has them as first names on the teamsheet.

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I wonder if it is Jolley telling Collins to keep backing off all the time and what he really wants to do is tackle the man or nip in and pinch the ball then storm up the field and put a 35 yarder into the top corner.


I've been wondering the same thing. The last 2 seasons, we conceded lots of free kicks and were awful at defending set pieces after Jolley arrived. I wonder if he's told them not to give away cheap free kicks and the result is the backing off we're seeing. I don't remember Collins backing off like this last season, but I do seem to think he was one of the main culprits for giving away free kicks.

As big a problem is the amount of times we have an unmarked man in the box scoring from 3 yards out. I'd have thought Collins should be good at organising the defence, but for the last 2 seasons this has happened on a far too regular basis. This coupled with Mckeown's inability to command the box has hurt us badly because we let in almost 100% of these type of chances. Somehow Nick Clark seemed to get scapegoated into all the blame last season.
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I agree, but the sad fact is that they are doing the best their bodies can and taking their final wage packet off GTFC before they hang their boots up..

Welsh would have been enough for us this season, but to not get rid of Dixon, non-trier, no bottle Hooper and sign up Woolford and Collins who were poor last season was criminal. Said so in the summer. I've never known a club sign so many knackered slow carthorses in such a short space of time and then the manager has them as first names on the teamsheet.



I don't get the almost universal hatred of Woolford on here. At the times when we've played well this season, Woolford was the driving force behind the attacking play and seemed to be involved in almost everything good we did. He also works hard, does his share for the team and is decent defensively despite his lack of pace.

Look at Saturday, Hendrie was bombing on but we weren't being exposed down that side because Woolford filled in and protected us. It was only when Hendrie went to the other side that nobody was back to cover the overlap and we got caught out.
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I don't get the almost universal hatred of Woolford on here. At the times when we've played well this season, Woolford was the driving force behind the attacking play and seemed to be involved in almost everything good we did. He also works hard, does his share for the team and is decent defensively despite his lack of pace.

Look at Saturday, Hendrie was bombing on but we weren't being exposed down that side because Woolford filled in and protected us. It was only when Hendrie went to the other side that nobody was back to cover the overlap and we got caught out.


I must be watching a different Woolford to you as the one I've seen gives the ball away in important areas, lacks any real pace and is weak in the tackle and often shits out of them.

He was bloody awful last season and it still amazes me that we re-signed him.

Having said that he will probably score the winner tonight.
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I did say, 'hypothetically'. I've no idea if there is a senior player rebellion.

I remember it was the same rumour when Bignot was in charge. I didn't like the idea then.


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