Bury live - can't see the problem

Quoted from Abdul19

I'm guessing by that Santutxo used to get bigger gates back in the day?

Quoted from Paris Mariner

Check the average atttendances in the third and fourth tiers in France, Spain, Germany and Italy Dan

Quoted from ska face

You’re not expected to watch the same band 46 times in a row, generally outside in the cold, with two months off a year, until you die.

Quoted from Dan

I would if it was Fleetwood Mac

Quoted from Mariner55

I know it's being discussed elsewhere, but I thought I'd start this thread as the other one now seems to be about Accrington.  I know some people won't agree, to put it mildly, but I think the matches being streamed on iFollow - even on a Saturday afternoon - is brilliant.  I've lived in London for many years and always go and watch Town when they play in the south.  I'll continue to do that: I chose to go to MK Downs rather than watch on iFollow and will be at Stevenage in a couple of weeks (I don't believe in boycotts because it's us who'll suffer from a lack of support).  There'll be thousands of Town fans who don't go to away games including many who can't go because of the cost or illness.  For those of us who live far from Grimsby this is nothing less than a lifeline.  And don't forget the revenue: I wouldn't be surprised if it could add £100,000+ to a club's income.  Whether it has a detrimental impact on home gates remains to be seen, but the argument against live streaming is similar to that which saw music streaming and e-books as the end of the music & books industry.  The effect has been quite the opposite - it has broadened their appeal and has introduced new audiences (I happen to work in one of these industries and can personally vouch for it).  There is no reason why this could not work for football too, introducing new supporters and more revenue.  The idea of people going to a Saturday afternoon game in the same way as they have done for 100+ years is - to an extent - antiquated, rather like the famous Lowry painting of fans going to a match.  People live their lives differently now and football has to recognise that.

Quoted from Dan

I just don't see that happening. People don't stop going to gigs just because they can stream the music on Spotify.

Quoted from Dan

Yeah, but those leagues have NEVER had professional clubs in the way we do. Low attendances in those leagues is nothing to do with TV and everything to do with the fact that those are amateur teams equivalent to our level 6 or 7 or B teams (and who wants to watch those?)

France: Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 are professional with a few professional clubs below. 46 Professional teams in total. Exactly half of our 92, and that's not including the conference which is close to 100% pro now.
Spain: 42 Professional clubs. B teams play at Level 3.
Germany: Only got it's nationwide third division in 2008 and level 4 and below is regionalised. Only the top 3 leagues are professional and reserve teams can play in League 3. There are 56 professional teams.
Italy Only Serie A and B are national leagues. Serie C is regionalised. Serie C has attendances on par with Conference clubs.

Basically, we have an entirely different setup and history here to those leagues and the comparison is not fair or accurate.



I would if it was Fleetwood Mac